Considering Self-supervised TRT

[steam]

he's gonna ask to see some phat bloods from you... :P

[Matthersby]

The fluctuations in a 30 day period of my TSH and Test is really odd.
0.23 to 1.26 for TSH
214 to 609 for test

[The Matrix]

I have done hours and hours of research recently and have found some information that is astounding yet confusing. It seems that I do have a lot of criteria fitting that of an under methylated individual:
Excessive perspiration ( more than anyone I've ever met)
Anxiety(severe)
depression
ADHD
addictive behavior(alcoholism and recovered opiate addict)
Graves disease grandfather, hashimotos sister, hypothyroid mother
Obsessive compulsive thoughts as well as compulsive behavior.
Very large fluctuations in TSH and Testosterone in short periods of time.
Periods of extreme motivation and energy and periods of complete fatigue.
Obsession with perfection and organization..
possibly unrelated is upper neck/base of skull severe tightness and stiffness.
High bp
Elevated fasting blood sugars(and I do not fit the mold of a type II whatsoever.

I am interested in solving my health problems.
So far methylfolate and methylcobalamin and an increase in krill/salmon oil seems promising. Also while under my Pcp's care(or ND, or whoever) starting a low dose of these while keeping SAMe and niacin on hand while tapering the Zoloft, benzos and beta blockers down. I am still in researching stages and would really appreciate Matrix's input on this as it has come up 3 or 4 times this month before I had even jumped on AM and discovered what a hot topic methylation has become. I am 90% convinced it is a factor in my thyroid issues and subsequent ailments.
Matrix, this ones for you!

I have been balancing people's methylation for almost a decade. In the beginning it was a little bit rocky, but over the past year or so it has been where 90% of my referrals from Drs are coming from. Funny how people called me a quack and mockery now years later I'm on the verge of HELPING change medicine as we know it. Already have several guys on HRT under medical supervision who are getting ready come off because HRT did not resolve their issues, but balancing methylation and removing hidden inflammation was successful. TRT was just a bandaid effect, its a down stream effect from the genetic expressions we are dealing with. Not saying HRT does not have it place, just younger guys are being medicated when there may not need be. Why Drs are going down stream I am going up stream. Some have even threaten with practice medicine with out a license probably due to they saw I was getting results where they were not able to since they only focused on a specific area not looking at the broad picture. Mattersby you said the magic world SOLVE ...not medicate. From the line up of supplementation you have on hand you are looking at a deadly cocktail if used incorrectly. I get phone calls from shrinks putting people on Deplin and they are wigging out with depression and suicidal thoughts then Dr wanted to stick them on another drug on top of the deplin which was causing the problem in the first place because Dr have no clue of the hidden bottle necks in the cycle. When corrected BINGO depression, anxiety are significantly reduced or totally resolved. Right now working with one of the best neurological centers in the United states specializes in brain specs mapping helping them with their challenging cases. I'm working to unlock the mystery of why soldiers coming back from overseas are having so many neurological orders. Tell you what I am getting close already have a few cases with soldiers resolving who did not respond to kind of hypno, EMDR, psych therapy with in a matter of a months time. Not enough to be miraculous, but being able to be part of society is priceless. As I get in more with this center, I will have more room to conduct further research and have Drs be able to get grants.

[The Matrix]

The fluctuations in a 30 day period of my TSH and Test is really odd.0.23 to 1.26 for TSH214 to 609 for test

Not enough data on thyroid, they need to check TPO, TGAB, FT3, FT4, rt3. TIB (anti bodies for graves) E2 was a wrong test needs to be 4021x If you have Dr willing to do blood test then PM me if not I will probably know one near your area. Need cortisol saliva test done to rule out adrenal issues.

[Matthersby]

OK, I'll ask one simple question....
What direction do I go with all this? Call a naturopath? Get genetic testing done? Consult with you? Hire someone who can help me with this mess? I believe in what you're telling me but where do I go from here?

[Matthersby]

Not enough data on thyroid, they need to check TPO, TGAB, FT3, FT4, rt3. TIB (anti bodies for graves) E2 was a wrong test needs to be 4021x If you have Dr willing to do blood test then PM me if not I will probably know one near your area. Need cortisol saliva test done to rule out adrenal issues.

Gotcha thanks! I'll get started here.
I'm in east valley area of Phoenix, AZ

[napalm]

I'm on the verge of changing medicine as we know it

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[The Matrix]

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I meant "HELPING"

[Matthersby]

I meant "HELPING"

Hey I can't p.m. anymore. Not sure why. Here was my message:

Hey i am in the phoenix area and was wondering if u could help me find someone(endo, naturo, etc.) that really wants to get down to the root of my issues. I may start a new thread about the endocrine system, thyroid problems/addiction/depression/anxiety/anti aging etc. and your input will be most appreciated in this thread.

[BJE]

I won't criticize you for wanting higher testosterone levels. Your below the middle of the range on total T and just above middle on free T. I agree with the others that if there is a fix to get good testosterone levels without TRT that would be best. However if you are having symptoms of low testosterone, maybe you have low testosterone. How may times have you had your testosterone checked? You have shown two test results. One low and one mid range. Which is the fluke? Is your testosterone usually in the low range or in the mid range. I think that getting your testosterone tested at regular intervals over a period of time would give a better picture.

One doctor I have seen about hormones, but not the one currently treating me, told he wasn't much into testing hormones because they are always fluctuating and you are only getting that moment in time. He said he treats symptoms, not numbers.

At any rate if you have a valid prescription for six vials I'd definitely buy them if I were you.

If you decide you want to be on TRT you could always use a vial of testosterone and then stop and let your testosterone level crash then go to a doctor and have your level tested which would then be low and then he would put you on TRT. But you didn't hear me say that!

[The Matrix]

Hey I can't p.m. anymore. Not sure why. Here was my message:Hey i am in the phoenix area and was wondering if u could help me find someone(endo, naturo, etc.) that really wants to get down to the root of my issues. I may start a new thread about the endocrine system, thyroid problems/addiction/depression/anxiety/anti aging etc. and your input will be most appreciated in this thread.

Ck pm if not i can leave visitor message on your wall. I am helping handling cases from Dr from Amen clinic one of top neurological and addictions clinics in the country.

[sade]

FWIW, I haver natural T levels in the 700's high 800's and am supposed to be put on TRT, however my story is different. I abused roids since age 21 and couldn't gain a single pound of muscle. Age 24 frustrated with my lack of gains using roids i decided to do a 9 month test enanthate cycle. The day after pct I lost libido, erections, got severeley depressed, no motivation, low energy; basically all the symptoms of hypogonadism. I got blood tested and found out that my testosterone levels were high but so was LH. As high as 25.3, 13.0, 12.8, 11.4, 10.0, 10.4, 9.7, 9.3 with elevated testosterone levels. I researched and researched and finally figured out that I had 'Mild androgen insensitivity syndrome' MAIS:

It's a condition where you produce high levels of T but your receptors are insensitive to androgens. The only way to treat this medical condition is with high dose TRT.

[VinceMc]

FWIW, I haver natural T levels in the 700's high 800's and am supposed to be put on TRT, however my story is different. I abused roids since age 21 and couldn't gain a single pound of muscle. Age 24 frustrated with my lack of gains using roids i decided to do a 9 month test enanthate cycle. The day after pct I lost libido, erections, got severeley depressed, no motivation, low energy; basically all the symptoms of hypogonadism. I got blood tested and found out that my testosterone levels were high but so was LH. As high as 25.3, 13.0, 12.8, 11.4, 10.0, 10.4, 9.7, 9.3 with elevated testosterone levels. I researched and researched and finally figured out that I had 'Mild androgen insensitivity syndrome' MAIS:

It's a condition where you produce high levels of T but your receptors are insensitive to androgens. The only way to treat this medical condition is with high dose TRT.

Was the MAIS caused by the test use of 9 months?

[sade]

No, I had it before. i couldn't gain any muscle whilst on any of my cycles, never had an urge to have sex even though i could pop boners 24/7, it's just the ED hit me after the cycle. I always knew something was wrong because I couldn't gain any muscle what so ever on any of my cycles.

[Mr.TT]

FWIW, I haver natural T levels in the 700's high 800's and am supposed to be put on TRT, however my story is different. I abused roids since age 21 and couldn't gain a single pound of muscle. Age 24 frustrated with my lack of gains using roids i decided to do a 9 month test enanthate cycle. The day after pct I lost libido, erections, got severeley depressed, no motivation, low energy; basically all the symptoms of hypogonadism. I got blood tested and found out that my testosterone levels were high but so was LH. As high as 25.3, 13.0, 12.8, 11.4, 10.0, 10.4, 9.7, 9.3 with elevated testosterone levels. I researched and researched and finally figured out that I had 'Mild androgen insensitivity syndrome' MAIS:

It's a condition where you produce high levels of T but your receptors are insensitive to androgens. The only way to treat this medical condition is with high dose TRT.

SADE....How high of a dose of TRT were you RXed? Did it improve secondary sexual developement?????

[The Matrix]

When people do.nor respond trt then correcting dopamine and resensitizing receptors tends to resolve linger issues for.majority of the cases.

[sade]

SADE....How high of a dose of TRT were you RXed? Did it improve secondary sexual developement?????

Not on any kind of T therapy atm, I'm in the UK and it's tough getting T prescribed over here. Next endo app is in march and am currently scheduled for treatment with Nebido 1000mg every 10 weeks. I'm not sure if this is enough to raise my T into the supraphysiological range.