Testosterone Advice needed

[Jamisman1]

My name is Chris. This is the first time I have been on this site so bear with me. I am 37 and my test count is 72. I have been seeing a urologist for the past year. I was doing a 2cc injection every month for six months. I think the highest my level got was 213. I switched jobs and lost my ins. I went back a month ago and he gave me Axiron to try for a month. It didn't bring my level up any. I am now doing a 1cc injection every 2 weeks. I just started Saturday. I was wondering if I can use the axiron and injections at the same time/ or does anyone have an idea of a supplement that I can get to help me.

[ajntorinj]

You need to be more specific. 1cc of what? Testosterone enanthate? Testosterone cypionate? What is the dosage? Report this number in milligrams.

I suggest injecting more frequently. 50mg testosterone e/c twice a week is a common and effective plan.

Has your doc ever tested you for estradiol? Provide labs so smarter people than me can help you.

I would not recommend taking both your testosterone and Axiron at the same time. You can find a dose of injectable testosterone that will address many of your issues.

Also, the fact that you have not gotten this close to sorted out with your urologist in year's time suggests to me that your doctor is worse than useless or you are not educating yourself. Consider firing him and doing some reading about TRT on your own.

[Pericles]

+1

Need much more info as stated above.

[FL3X MAGNUM]

If you're talking testosterone injections, no point in doing axiron and injecting. Axiron isn't that great anyways. I'd find a doc that will put you on cyp, twice a month.

[Pericles]

I'd find a doc that will put you on cyp, twice a month.

Twice a month or twice a week?

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Twice a month or twice a week?

Twice a week would be fantastic but if it's a TRT prescription good luck.
Even if his doc is willing to give him everything to do it at home it wouldn't be a high enough dose to be worth pinning twice a week.
Seems the most common is 200mg every two weeks.
I would certainly find a way to acquire more and add to that if it were me though.
I'm running 500mg/week lol.

[threeFs]

Seems the most common is 200mg every two weeks.
I would certainly find a way to acquire more and add to that if it were me though.
I'm running 500mg/week lol.

Running anything else with that like aromitase inhibitor?

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Running anything else with that like aromitase inhibitor?

Erase Pro has been doing the trick just fine.

[threeFs]

Hmm....I have erase pro...

[BJE]

Twice a month or twice a week?

This is what I was thinking.

Twice a week would be fantastic but if it's a TRT prescription good luck.
Even if his doc is willing to give him everything to do it at home it wouldn't be a high enough dose to be worth pinning twice a week.

I don't understand the part about not being worth pinning twice a week. I started at 100mg a week but had E2 problems (sore nipples the day after injection) so I switched to twice a week. Things have been much better.

[Pericles]

I don't understand the part about not being worth pinning twice a week. I started at 100mg a week but had E2 problems (sore nipples the day after injection) so I switched to twice a week. Things have been much better.

Yea, seems like twice a week is best for most people. It's amazing to me that some docs are prescribing once or twice a MONTH and wondering why there is no improvement....weird.

[Jamisman1]

That is what he put me on Testosterone cypionate 1cc every 2 weeks. The vial size is 300 mg but I don't have it with me to tell you how much test is actually in. I have thought about going to another doctor because as you stated he is pretty worthless. I think we need to get more agressive with my treatment. It is not affecting my sex life. i'm just worn out all the time. Are there any supplements at *** etc. That I can start taking that work in the meantime ?

[Pericles]

My friend, the smart folks here (not me) need to see the details of your most recent labs to assist you. Without that information they are flying blind.

[threeFs]

is there a big difference between for example pinning test 120 1x/week vs 60 2x/week? I'm talking for trt, I realize the mg's aren't "cycle" levels

[howwedo107]

is there a big difference between for example pinning test 120 1x/week vs 60 2x/week? I'm talking for trt, I realize the mg's aren't "cycle" levels

I believe more frequent injections help keep your e2 levels balanced

[FL3X MAGNUM]

is there a big difference between for example pinning test 120 1x/week vs 60 2x/week? I'm talking for trt, I realize the mg's aren't "cycle" levels

I don't see much of a difference, as long as it's a long ester. The problem with pinning twice a week for TRT is what the hell is the point of pricking your ass and possibly being sore, twice a week, as opposed to once a week or twice a month?
Plus, more frequent pinning leads to more scar tissue build up, which isn't a good thing.

That's one reason why I believe most docs have pin schedules like they do.

[The Matrix]

I don't see much of a difference, as long as it's a long ester. The problem with pinning twice a week for TRT is what the hell is the point of pricking your ass and possibly being sore, twice a week, as opposed to once a week or twice a month?Plus, more frequent pinning leads to more scar tissue build up, which isn't a good thing.That's one reason why I believe most docs have pin schedules like they do.

All a bunch of hog wash, I would rather stick my self 2 times or 3 times a week with a small needle then have to deal with chasing e2 all over the place like many people do feel like crap. Body builders have been pumping in 10 grams a week, and still are doing it !! We are not extreme as they are put point being its not going to cause major muscle draw using the proper gauges. I have been helping design HRT protocol for close to 8 years no one ever complained of this.

[threeFs]

what do you mean "small needle?" I have 21g 1.5". are you referring to subq injections then?

[BJE]

what do you mean "small needle?" I have 21g 1.5". are you referring to subq injections then?

I have done IM injections with a 31g 1/2" needle. I do it in the thigh where I have very little fat and I press in hard and get it well into the muscle.

[Pericles]

I just now used a 29g 1/2 inch syringe in my quad area for the first time. It took several minutes to draw .4 ml of Test Cyp due to the heavy consistency and about 45 seconds to push it into my quad. Very minor discomfort and just a tiny drop of blood. Thanks for the tip gents!