RBC and MCV too high per dr, really tired. Dr said go donate blood. Why?

[ratdog]

I inject .375ml of 200mg test/cyp once every 5 days. This has really helped the peaks and bottoming out problem when I injected a larger dose ever 2 weeks. I am tired, exhausted, you get the idea. Blood work yesterday came back with high RBC and high MCV. Phone call on voice mail said donate blood at the next drive I could get to. How will this help?

[The Matrix]

I inject .375ml of 200mg test/cyp once every 5 days. This has really helped the peaks and bottoming out problem when I injected a larger dose ever 2 weeks. I am tired, exhausted, you get the idea. Blood work yesterday came back with high RBC and high MCV. Phone call on voice mail said donate blood at the next drive I could get to. How will this help?

Check hydration first before giving blood.
Did you drink any water before the blood test?
Do you drink excessive amount of coffee or caffeine beverages.

If you answered yes to either or of these questions and your dr did not even ask before making his response then i would really consider rechecking level after 2 weeks . I can not count the number of guys getting phleb because of drs being lazy asses and not asking

[vassille]

Drink more water

[The Matrix]

Drink more water

Common sense wins again....

[ratdog]

Testosterone stimulates erythropoiesis, a fact which should
alert physicians to thinking about testosterone insufficiency as a
possible cause of anemia in male patients, especially in otherwise
unexplained anemia
[68,69]. Conversely, TRT can result in
increases in hemoglobin and hematocrit which may rise about the
upper limits of normal and put the patient at risk for an arterial
occlusive event. When the hematocrit exceeds 0.50 L/L the dose of
testosterone should be decreased. If the hematocrit continues to
be overstimulated regardless of dose readjustments or if reducing
the dose of testosterone re-introducessymptomsof hypogonadism,
then it is reasonable to return the patient to physiological (effective)
doses of testosterone and institute intermittent phlebotomies
to keep the hematocrit below 0.50. Polycythemia can be induced
by any form of testosterone administration but is most commonly
found with testosterone injections.
" I have been drinking lots of water, and stopped all caffeine, due to blood pressure issues and overall health.. This is not the first time in 12 years of hrt I have been told to give blood and questioned about water and caffeine intake" There are lazy asses and then there are smart asses.

[EasyEJL]

donating blood regularly isn't a bad thing anyhow, from a community support perspective.

[The Matrix]

donating blood regularly isn't a bad thing anyhow, from a community support perspective.

If you want to run around with low ferritin levels which may not effect RBC, but rather mitochondrion function as well as neurological issues be my guest. People are so mislead by thinking iron is for RBC, better thing again because its a major player in RLS and also other dopamine related functions. I also see it common in people with tininitus which goes back to low dopamine levels.

[The Matrix]

donating blood regularly isn't a bad thing anyhow, from a community support perspective.

If you want to run around with low ferritin levels which may not effect RBC, but rather mitochondrion function as well as neurological issues be my guest. People are so mislead by thinking iron is for RBC, better thing again because its a major player in RLS and also other dopamine related functions. I also see it common in people with tininitus which goes back to low dopamine levels.

[ratdog]

Testosterone stimulates erythropoiesis, a fact which should
alert physicians to thinking about testosterone insufficiency as a
possible cause of anemia in male patients, especially in otherwise
unexplained anemia

[68,69]. Conversely, TRT can result in
increases in hemoglobin and hematocrit which may rise about the
upper limits of normal and put the patient at risk for an arterial
occlusive event. When the hematocrit exceeds 0.50 L/L the dose of
testosterone should be decreased. If the hematocrit continues to
be overstimulated regardless of dose readjustments or if reducing
the dose of testosterone re-introducessymptomsof hypogonadism,
then it is reasonable to return the patient to physiological (effective)
doses of testosterone and institute intermittent phlebotomies
to keep the hematocrit below 0.50. Polycythemia can be induced
by any form of testosterone administration but is most commonly
found with testosterone injections.
" I have been drinking lots of water, and stopped all caffeine, due to blood pressure issues and overall health.. This is not the first time in 12 years of hrt I have been told to give blood and questioned about water and caffeine intake" There are lazy asses and then there are smart asses.

[The Matrix]

Testosterone stimulates erythropoiesis, a fact which should
alert physicians to thinking about testosterone insufficiency as a
possible cause of anemia in male patients, especially in otherwise
unexplained anemia

[68,69]. Conversely, TRT can result in
increases in hemoglobin and hematocrit which may rise about the
upper limits of normal and put the patient at risk for an arterial
occlusive event. When the hematocrit exceeds 0.50 L/L the dose of
testosterone should be decreased. If the hematocrit continues to
be overstimulated regardless of dose readjustments or if reducing
the dose of testosterone re-introducessymptomsof hypogonadism,
then it is reasonable to return the patient to physiological (effective)
doses of testosterone and institute intermittent phlebotomies
to keep the hematocrit below 0.50. Polycythemia can be induced
by any form of testosterone administration but is most commonly
found with testosterone injections.
" I have been drinking lots of water, and stopped all caffeine, due to blood pressure issues and overall health.. This is not the first time in 12 years of hrt I have been told to give blood and questioned about water and caffeine intake" There are lazy asses and then there are smart asses.

Point is examine the obvious before residing to.extreme that is.being proactive. Isolate the potential root causes by asking a few simple questions is all.it takes be surprise what you find. This is how i.am.educating drs to think..

[The Matrix]

Testosterone stimulates erythropoiesis, a fact which should
alert physicians to thinking about testosterone insufficiency as a
possible cause of anemia in male patients, especially in otherwise
unexplained anemia

[68,69]. Conversely, TRT can result in
increases in hemoglobin and hematocrit which may rise about the
upper limits of normal and put the patient at risk for an arterial
occlusive event. When the hematocrit exceeds 0.50 L/L the dose of
testosterone should be decreased. If the hematocrit continues to
be overstimulated regardless of dose readjustments or if reducing
the dose of testosterone re-introducessymptomsof hypogonadism,
then it is reasonable to return the patient to physiological (effective)
doses of testosterone and institute intermittent phlebotomies
to keep the hematocrit below 0.50. Polycythemia can be induced
by any form of testosterone administration but is most commonly
found with testosterone injections.
" I have been drinking lots of water, and stopped all caffeine, due to blood pressure issues and overall health.. This is not the first time in 12 years of hrt I have been told to give blood and questioned about water and caffeine intake" There are lazy asses and then there are smart asses.

Point is examine the obvious before residing to.extreme that is.being proactive. Isolate the potential root causes by asking a few simple questions is all.it takes be surprise what you find. This is how i.am.educating drs to think..

[vassille]

Testosterone stimulates erythropoiesis, a fact which should
alert physicians to thinking about testosterone insufficiency as a
possible cause of anemia in male patients, especially in otherwise
unexplained anemia
[68,69]. Conversely, TRT can result in
increases in hemoglobin and hematocrit which may rise about the
upper limits of normal and put the patient at risk for an arterial
occlusive event. When the hematocrit exceeds 0.50 L/L the dose of
testosterone should be decreased. If the hematocrit continues to
be overstimulated regardless of dose readjustments or if reducing
the dose of testosterone re-introducessymptomsof hypogonadism,
then it is reasonable to return the patient to physiological (effective)
doses of testosterone and institute intermittent phlebotomies
to keep the hematocrit below 0.50. Polycythemia can be induced
by any form of testosterone administration but is most commonly
found with testosterone injections.
" I have been drinking lots of water, and stopped all caffeine, due to blood pressure issues and overall health.. This is not the first time in 12 years of hrt I have been told to give blood and questioned about water and caffeine intake" There are lazy asses and then there are smart asses.

By all means if you predisposed to this issue donate blood and or lower dosage.

[vassille]

Testosterone stimulates erythropoiesis, a fact which should
alert physicians to thinking about testosterone insufficiency as a
possible cause of anemia in male patients, especially in otherwise
unexplained anemia
[68,69]. Conversely, TRT can result in
increases in hemoglobin and hematocrit which may rise about the
upper limits of normal and put the patient at risk for an arterial
occlusive event. When the hematocrit exceeds 0.50 L/L the dose of
testosterone should be decreased. If the hematocrit continues to
be overstimulated regardless of dose readjustments or if reducing
the dose of testosterone re-introducessymptomsof hypogonadism,
then it is reasonable to return the patient to physiological (effective)
doses of testosterone and institute intermittent phlebotomies
to keep the hematocrit below 0.50. Polycythemia can be induced
by any form of testosterone administration but is most commonly
found with testosterone injections.
" I have been drinking lots of water, and stopped all caffeine, due to blood pressure issues and overall health.. This is not the first time in 12 years of hrt I have been told to give blood and questioned about water and caffeine intake" There are lazy asses and then there are smart asses.

By all means if you predisposed to this issue donate blood and or lower dosage.

[vassille]

I inject .375ml of 200mg test/cyp once every 5 days. This has really helped the peaks and bottoming out problem when I injected a larger dose ever 2 weeks. I am tired, exhausted, you get the idea. Blood work yesterday came back with high RBC and high MCV. Phone call on voice mail said donate blood at the next drive I could get to. How will this help?

donating blood will lower the amount of blood in your body and your body then will produce more blood thus diluting down your RBC concentration.

[The Matrix]

donating blood will lower the amount of blood in your body and your body then will produce more blood thus diluting down your RBC concentration.

also if.he has low ferritin it will.make.it worse plus take.out copper zinc in the process. why rule.out.other variables before phlebs

[The Matrix]

donating blood will lower the amount of blood in your body and your body then will produce more blood thus diluting down your RBC concentration.

also if.he has low ferritin it will.make.it worse plus take.out copper zinc in the process. why rule.out.other variables before phlebs

[Onenut]

I donate a few times a year to keep my hematocrit levels in the safe zone. Many donation centers offer 'double red' donations. The machines takes out the red blood cells and puts everything else back. At least that is my understanding. So there should be no issues with losing iron, copper, zinc, etc. Right?