Help with HRT Protocol from Clinic...
- 07-22-2012, 06:39 PM
Help with HRT Protocol from Clinic...
Finally managed to find a place listening to concerns over testicular atrophy, ache, health etc. Unfortunately it was a clinic and felt a bit like a candy store... Was hoping you guys could shed some light on their protocol and see if it needs some more tweaking to be closer to the norm or if i should follow as directed...
Most recent lab work: Pre-t shows blood work done the day I started HRT before Tx with Test-Cyp 200mg IM E14D/2 weeks and Nadir which shows my Nadir point taken 4weeks after starting Test on my last day before my third shot which subsequently caused my urologist to increase my dose to Test-Cyp 200mg IM E10D. After the change in does I began taking 120mg every 6 days since that works conveniently with my work schedule and split the does into two smaller does...
Pret initial labs: 4/24/12
Total Test: 326 (250-1100) ng/dL
Free Test: 70.7 (35.0-155.0) pg/mL
LH: 3.2 (1.5-9.3) mIU/mL
FSH: 4.3 (1.4-18.1) mIU/mL
Estradiol: 18 (11.0-44.0) pg/mL
Progesterone: 0.65 (range missing) ng/mL
Prolactin: 4.6 (2.1-17.7) ng/mL
Nadir Labs: 5/23/12
Total Test: 322 (348-1197) ng/dL
Free Test: 9.2 (8.7-25.1) pg/mL
LH: 0.1 (1.7-8.6) mIU/mL
Estradiol: 24 (3-70) pg/mL
Progesterone: 0.7 (0.2-1.4) ng/mL
After seeing this labwork as well as some other older lab work regarding thryroid hormones and trending they prescribed me with:
300 mg test cyp every friday
250 IU HCG every wed and thurs
0.5 mg anastrazole saturday and wednesday
Progesterone 100mg nightly for sleep due to low progesterone
and changed my hypothyroid medication from 75mcg synthroid every day to Amour thyroid 60mg BID.
On the surface seems great, they prescribed everything I could hope for and dug through old lab work and addressed my thyroid issue which I had wanted to change as well as progesterone which I wasn't even aware of. That being said am I wrong in feeling that 300 mg a week is way too high?
Dr. mentioned increasing my dose from their standard 200mg weekly to 300mg since my nadir point was so low after test therapy started and I was on too low of a dose for therapeutic benefits. Nadir point was done on day 13 after completely being in trough though.
Any help would be greatly appreciated as well as possible suggestions for working this regimen out on an more shift friendly schedule. I work 24 on and 48 off and injecting on shift days are something i'd like to avoid if possible.
Would this schedule sound more feasible?
Day 1: 100mg Test Cyp
Day 2: 0.5 mg AI
Day 3: 125 iu HCG
I've heard cutting the HCG dose would be beneficial or should i stick to the standard 250iu E3D/ 500 a week? I've heard from a few people the goal with HCG is smallest dose possible to restore testicular size as a proper indication of testicular function. Any thoughts on that? Thank again for everything... Thanks in advance!
- 07-22-2012, 09:19 PM
Originally Posted by rammanftw
This is good trt protocol but a chop chop cookie cuter operation. Any dr makes all those changes at one time should have their head examined. The potential for.you to do major damage is significantly increased by changing to.many.things at.one.time. You be making.some one very rich..I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
- 07-22-2012, 10:31 PM
Took 100 mg test cyp yesterday, 0.5 mg AI today, and will pin HCG for first time tomorrow after about 6 weeks of atrophy and ache from ridiculous uro test only protocol... Any input on dose? Does the 3 day cycle sound feasible dropping the amount of test from 300 to 200? Thanks for the help...
07-22-2012, 10:57 PM
07-23-2012, 01:47 PM
I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
07-23-2012, 04:19 PM
07-23-2012, 04:42 PM
07-23-2012, 06:56 PM
07-23-2012, 09:01 PM
Its easier then you Think, but you.need to have other issues ruled out before commencing other words you.may get benefits at first the later down the road things come.back.to.hunt you if.not.taken care of at the beginning. its alot of work but worth it in the end to.get.it right from the start. I may have a contact. I am working with a lead.now.in.Florida area. Will.let you.knowOriginally Posted by rammanftw
07-23-2012, 09:09 PM
Do you think it would be more advisable to simply stay on a Test-cyp injections twice weekly without AI or HCG until I can find adequate care? I am extremely worried about testicular atrophy, pain, and being infertile and wanted to start running HCG asap... Let me know your thoughts, they are greatly appreciated.
07-23-2012, 09:45 PM
07-23-2012, 11:31 PM
If fertility is of major concern, have you thought of just using Clomid as a form of HRT? If you're doin this solo it may be the easiest way to go??Originally Posted by rammanftw
07-24-2012, 08:59 AM
07-24-2012, 08:13 PM
07-25-2012, 09:36 PM
07-25-2012, 09:38 PM
07-26-2012, 01:39 AM
Start with either 50mg or 75mg administered 2x a week or 100-150mg a week if you choose. THat keep blood serum constant. Throw in some arimidex or aromasin and you good. Dont over think it. To revitilize your nuts occasionaly add some HCG. Then go back to your normal TRT.
If you do 150mg a week you prob need arimidex or aromasin. If you can tolerate 2 shots a week then that's ideal. Less ups and downs.
Been doing this TRT for over 10 years in the long run the simpler the better.
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