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    Unhappy could u help on results please matrix?


    hi

    just got my results back today from endo


    test came back at at 9.6nmol/l range 10 to 30 im guessing so very low....
    fsh was told came back slightly high? fsh 19.6 u/l not sure of range for men in uk
    prolactin came back at 147 mu/l

    what do u think of this result and could u give me some info please


    endo said he will do a trial of nebido on me to see if make me feel better .....if not then no point haven it,if it does make me feel better
    then i will stay on it and full blood count will be done and liver function tests,fasting pipids and psa would be monitored....

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    5 ft 6
    about 12 stone give or take a few pounds


    some help would be great

    thanks

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    I can tell you Matrix is not a fan of nebido ... I'll let him explain.

    Before rushing into TRT how do you feel? You should also consider getting a second blood test try get sleep diet and any alcohol consumption in check before doing this test and if possible remove any stress in your life (asking the impossible I know!) One single poor blood test should not be enough that you make yourself dependent on a Dr giving you injections to feel normal for the rest of your life.

    MY experience with nebido; subjectively I felt good and liked the infrequency of attending the Dr surgery for an injection. Found I needed to get the shot at 7 week intervals which my Dr did for me, most wont go under 10 weeks. Then I got a solid rather large gyno lump got a blood test two weeks after the shot and it showed high E and low Bio Available Test I felt good tho ... go figure.

    So you might just find like me you feel good on the nebido but doesn't mean it's all that good for you. There is no room to really tweak it to get the most out of it ... although I have read of people injecting half waiting a few weeks then inj the second half and other variations of this idea seems to work well for them.

    Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aj power View Post
    I can tell you Matrix is not a fan of nebido ... I'll let him explain.

    Before rushing into TRT how do you feel? You should also consider getting a second blood test try get sleep diet and any alcohol consumption in check before doing this test and if possible remove any stress in your life (asking the impossible I know!) One single poor blood test should not be enough that you make yourself dependent on a Dr giving you injections to feel normal for the rest of your life.

    MY experience with nebido; subjectively I felt good and liked the infrequency of attending the Dr surgery for an injection. Found I needed to get the shot at 7 week intervals which my Dr did for me, most wont go under 10 weeks. Then I got a solid rather large gyno lump got a blood test two weeks after the shot and it showed high E and low Bio Available Test I felt good tho ... go figure.

    So you might just find like me you feel good on the nebido but doesn't mean it's all that good for you. There is no room to really tweak it to get the most out of it ... although I have read of people injecting half waiting a few weeks then inj the second half and other variations of this idea seems to work well for them.

    Good luck.
    I am more a fan on finding why you need it in the first place meaning. If you sleep like crap you T can be up to 60% lower. If your immune system is out of balance from some hidden stressor then it can lower Testosterone significant. If thyroid is low or adrenals are being stress this can lower T to your levels. Improper lifestyles, simple nutrients deficiency or lack of building blocks to make the hormones. I just had a Dr's patient age 27 on HRT and Dr's ignored hidden factors. With alittle more exploring we (the Dr and I) referred him out to hemotologist and then he was refered to a cancer specialist for possible beginings of possible cancer. Again treating stuff with hormones may be masking things which will come back to haunt you in the future as many are starting to find out. I have seen this a numberous amounts of time. People put on hormones when it was totally something unrelated.
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
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    I agree totally it would be crazy to just jump on any form of T based on the little info the OP has given ... of course he might have already addressed all these issues but not told us. I also think 9.6 is not actually that low I think you guys are using the same standard as here in Oz the cut off is considered 9.8 (any age) I was getting 9.8 in my early 20's 6 and 4 in my mid 30's before I went on T. If matrix is right and the op could adjust a few simple life style issue like sleep and get a 60% increase in test that would put him close to 16 all the time this is good if numbers are your game ... I can tell you nebido will not have you at 16 for 10 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aj power View Post
    I agree totally it would be crazy to just jump on any form of T based on the little info the OP has given ... of course he might have already addressed all these issues but not told us. I also think 9.6 is not actually that low I think you guys are using the same standard as here in Oz the cut off is considered 9.8 (any age) I was getting 9.8 in my early 20's 6 and 4 in my mid 30's before I went on T. If matrix is right and the op could adjust a few simple life style issue like sleep and get a 60% increase in test that would put him close to 16 all the time this is good if numbers are your game ... I can tell you nebido will not have you at 16 for 10 weeks.

    i did do a post a while back about my story etc... pro hormones and steriods about 12 years ago etc.... not touched since then.

    i am aged 30 male uk
    i dont smoke or drink
    get a pretty good nights sleep
    stress wise everyone has stress but more than others stess wise in my life i would say about 3 out of 10 ,10 being high
    i have had many blood test now about 5 coming back low t's
    As said many times before would love to find out cause but u tell a uk doc or endo this info they just take it wrong way an
    d think u are telling them how to do there job etc..... they just want u to jump on t and hope it will be a fix etc.......


    anyway would u do think of my fsh levels as they came back high at 19.6 doc said could be a early end organ problem?


    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by umpalumpa1981 View Post
    i did do a post a while back about my story etc... pro hormones and steriods about 12 years ago etc.... not touched since then.

    i am aged 30 male uk
    i dont smoke or drink
    get a pretty good nights sleep
    stress wise everyone has stress but more than others stess wise in my life i would say about 3 out of 10 ,10 being high
    i have had many blood test now about 5 coming back low t's
    As said many times before would love to find out cause but u tell a uk doc or endo this info they just take it wrong way an
    d think u are telling them how to do there job etc..... they just want u to jump on t and hope it will be a fix etc.......


    anyway would u do think of my fsh levels as they came back high at 19.6 doc said could be a early end organ problem?


    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by umpalumpa1981 View Post
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    There are probably a lot more issues going on here which need to be further investigated. I see this so many times with people. They post up there information, but when you actualy either have them on skype, the phone, or infront of you then its really easy to narrow down what is going on.
    I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.
  

  
 

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