test cyp IM with insulin syringe

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by jdub1980 View Post
    I always draw a little more than I need and push some back into the vial until I am at .5cc. This seems to push most of the air out, but a few bubbles are always left. Is this common?
    Yep. Me too.


  2. you could also get 27g 1/2in needle and use a normal syringe that way you can swap needles if you prefer
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  3. I just started doing this too. I'm injecting 10 units per day of test cyp. instead Of using gels. So far so good in shoulder and quad. PM me how you progress.

  4. Are you guys doing quad injections with the slin needle as well? I'm thinking about switching to the slin needle but looking to do quad injections.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by JohninAZ View Post
    Are you guys doing quad injections with the slin needle as well? I'm thinking about switching to the slin needle but looking to do quad injections.

    I am injecting in the delt and the vastus lateralis of the quad. I know that I got into the muscle because I have the same dull ache for a couple of days after injecting as when I was using the 1" needles. Injected into right delt this morning; nice and easy. Just takes a minute to push all of the oil in. I now look forward to injections.

    Presa, are you using 100mg/ml or 200mg/ml? Interested to see how daily injections go. I am concerned with estrogen conversion and I bet a lower dose more frequently would eliminate that problem.
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  6. Did my first quad injection with the slin pin just now. Painless and simple. Don't know if I got into the muscle, but I guess sub Q would be OK too, according to what I've read. The only slin pins I had on hand were 30 Gauge 5/16". I'll report back if there are any issues.
    Pinned .5 CC Test cyp and .25 CC Deca.
    It was almost "too easy" and took the fun out of it.

    I drew with a normal syringe and backloaded the slin pin. Is this what you guys do? Or do you do both draw and inject with the slin pin? That point seems like it would dull quickly.

  7. I draw and inject with the same insulin needle. It does seem like it dulls the needle a good bit, but that doesn't matter much when using a small 28g-30g needle.

  8. OK. I gotta ask this question. A lot of guys on other boards (some very experienced) are saying that there is a greater chance of sterile abscess doing oil sub Q injections due to the fact that the oil takes longer to disperse and may not even fully disperse.
    I did an inject (quad)this morning of .5 CC test Cyp and .25 CC Deca. Don't know if I made it into the muscle or not with my 30g 5/16" slin pin (I doubt it) and am now wondering was it safe or not. Any more input on this???

  9. I think that would only become a problem if you were injecting a large amount of oil at one time. The subQ method seems to be used for about .5cc more or less. You will need to get a longer needle than 5/16" though; thats only about a quarter inch long. Most of the guys that I got advice from use 27-29g 1/2".

  10. Quote Originally Posted by JohninAZ View Post
    OK. I gotta ask this question. A lot of guys on other boards (some very experienced) are saying that there is a greater chance of sterile abscess doing oil sub Q injections due to the fact that the oil takes longer to disperse and may not even fully disperse.
    I did an inject (quad)this morning of .5 CC test Cyp and .25 CC Deca. Don't know if I made it into the muscle or not with my 30g 5/16" slin pin (I doubt it) and am now wondering was it safe or not. Any more input on this???
    Are they talking about injecting TRT doses or steroid doses (100 to 150mg/ml vs. 500mg in 2ml)?
    That is going to make a difference.

    I've been doing this for 13 years now and I've never had an abscess. That doesn't mean I or you won't get one on our next injection, but that is a lot of experience.

    I've seen some pretty fat guys in my life, but most of them still have very little fat on their quad. I could definately get IM with a insulin needle in my quad, but I use 1/2" needles, not 5/16.

  11. DragonRider, do you inject into vastus lateralis or rectus femoris? I have been using the vastus lateralis with good success; seems to be less fat on quads than delts. Might start using quads more often.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by DragonRider View Post
    Are they talking about injecting TRT doses or steroid doses (100 to 150mg/ml vs. 500mg in 2ml)?
    That is going to make a difference.

    I've been doing this for 13 years now and I've never had an abscess. That doesn't mean I or you won't get one on our next injection, but that is a lot of experience.

    I've seen some pretty fat guys in my life, but most of them still have very little fat on their quad. I could definately get IM with a insulin needle in my quad, but I use 1/2" needles, not 5/16.
    Both TRT and cycle doses. Lots of guys warning against anything "oil/slin pin" related. Many couldn't believe that I could even push oil through a 30g pin. They don't realize the pressure that the plunger in the slin pin creates.
    Looks like I'm gonna have to grab some 1/2" pins and see what happens. I've never done a delt shot, but that may be next on my list.

  13. When injecting subQ with slin pins, you're suppossed to pinch up the skin and inject into the pinched fat. When you guys say you are injecting into your quads, delts, etc., are you pinching up the skin or just pinning it right in? I've been doing a proper subQ inject on my quads 2xWeek. Why can't I just use a slin pin and inject into my glute without pinching. It doesn't matter if it's subQ or IM does it?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by jdub1980 View Post
    DragonRider, do you inject into vastus lateralis or rectus femoris? I have been using the vastus lateralis with good success; seems to be less fat on quads than delts. Might start using quads more often.
    Vastus lateralis. I can do a deep IM in my shoulders with a slin pin. I have zero fat on my shoulders.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Pinner View Post
    When injecting subQ with slin pins, you're suppossed to pinch up the skin and inject into the pinched fat. When you guys say you are injecting into your quads, delts, etc., are you pinching up the skin or just pinning it right in? I've been doing a proper subQ inject on my quads 2xWeek. Why can't I just use a slin pin and inject into my glute without pinching. It doesn't matter if it's subQ or IM does it?
    I don't pinch. On the other hand, many of us inject in the quads because we can see it. It's easier. I can't turn around far enough to inject in my own glute.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by DragonRider View Post
    I don't pinch. On the other hand, many of us inject in the quads because we can see it. It's easier. I can't turn around far enough to inject in my own glute.
    OK. My 1/2" slin pins are on the way. Let's give this another shot (no pun intended). I have to inject .75 CC total twice per week. You think the entire .75 CC can go in one spot? Or should I do the .5 CC Test in one spot and the .25 CC Deca in another?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by JohninAZ View Post
    I have to inject .75 CC total twice per week. You think the entire .75 CC can go in one spot? Or should I do the .5 CC Test in one spot and the .25 CC Deca in another?
    Yes, most men are injecting 1cc each time so .75 is not going to be a problem. I'm assuming you go through an antiaging clinic to get deca prescribed?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by DragonRider View Post
    Yes, most men are injecting 1cc each time so .75 is not going to be a problem. I'm assuming you go through an antiaging clinic to get deca prescribed?
    Yes, no way my own doctor would prescribe that. Don't want to go underground. The Deca is just enough to lube the joints...nothing crazy.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by JohninAZ View Post
    Yes, no way my own doctor would prescribe that. Don't want to go underground. The Deca is just enough to lube the joints...nothing crazy.
    I wish the medical community would recognize that as a legitimate use. I would love to use it for that.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by DragonRider View Post
    I wish the medical community would recognize that as a legitimate use. I would love to use it for that.
    Me too, this way maybe my insurance would cover it! It's nice to run a small dose though. Shoulders don't get all "knotted up" like they used to. Not as much anyway.
    Coming from a compounding pharmacy is reassuring as well. No worries about dirty underground gear.

  21. I just found an anti aging website our of Florida that is prescribing EVERYTHING!! Deca, anavar, test, etc

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Presa View Post
    I just found an anti aging website our of Florida that is prescribing EVERYTHING!! Deca, anavar, test, etc
    Go for it. Did you call them?

  23. OK. Got my 1/2 " slin pins in and did my TRT injection today. .5 cc Test Cyp and .25 Deca. Broke it up into 2 slin pins and did one in each quad. Don't know if I hit the muscle, but we'll see. I buried that 1/2" and even pushed on it further as I injected. Drawing took forever, but I'm in no hurry. 29G 1/2" .

  24. Seems to have worked. No issues the day after.

  25. This insulin pin route is slick!!!!!! Why isnt this the norm for HRT? This method eliminates the chief complaint of injections which is the "ups and downs" between shots!! I'm injecting 10units PER DAY alternating shoulders and quads which adds up to my 1/2cc every five days per my doctors order.

    It's so fast and painless its hilarious. It took longer to rub on that Testim crap than it does to pull 10 units into the pin and inject!!!!!! I cant believe so many doctors go to school for a decade, and then people on this board have to educate them.......................... .........
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