New blood work Help!!!!!!!!!!!!

[4evathrowed]

20 Year old male /neutrophilis (absolute) 1.1 L x10e3/ul (1.8-7.8)
fsh 1.9 (1.5-12.4)
LH 6.2 (1.7-8.6)
lymps 54 H (14-46) High!!!!
testosterone TOTAL- 449 ng/dl (249- 836)...im mid range which isnt terrible
neutrophils 30 L (40-74) Low!!!!!!!
free testosterone (direct) 13.3 pg/ml (9.3-26.5)
sodium 139 (135-145)
potassium 4.0(3.5-5.2)
chloride 103 (97-108)
carbon dioxide total 23 (20-32)
bun 9 (6-20)
glucose 83 (65-99)
creatinine 1.15 (0.76 - 1.27)
calcium 9.7 (8.7- 10.2)
albumin 4.6 (3.5-5.5)
protein 7.0 (6.0-8.5)
cholesterol,total 143 (100-199)
WBC 3.7L x10e3/uL (4.0-10.5) LOW!!!!!!!!!!
triglycerides 68 (0-149)
hdl cholesteral 54 >39
ldl cholesteral calc 75 mg/dl (0-99)
vldl cholesterol cal 14 mg/dl (5 - 40)
globulin 2.4 (1.5-4.5)
tsh 2.380 uIU/mL (0.450- 4.500)
A/G Ratio- 1.9 (1.1-2.5)
bilirubin 0.6 (0.0-1.2)
alkaline phosphatase, s 61 (25-150)
ast (sgot) 25 (0-40)
alt (sgpt) 14 (0-55)
bun/creatinine ratio 8 (8-19)
eGFR IF African Am 105 ml/min/1.73 >59 CBC WITH DIFF/PLT

RED BLOOD CELL COUNT 4.65 x10e6/ul (4.10-5.60)
HEMOGLOBIN 14.1 (12.5-17.0 g/dL)
HEMATOCRIT 40.5 % (36.0-50.0 %)
MCV 87 fL (80-98 fl)
MCH 30.3 pg (27.0-34.0)
MCHC 34.8 g/dL (32-36)
RDW 13.1 % (11.7-15.0)
PLATELETS 244 x10E3/uL (140-415)
ABSOLUTE LYMPHS 2.0 x10e3/ul (0.7-4.5)
ABSOLUTE MONOCYTES 0.3 x10e3/ul (0.1-1.0)
ABSOLUTE EOS 0.2 x10e3/ul (0.0-0.4)
ABSOLUTE BASO 0.1 x10e3/ul (0.0-0.2)
MONOCYTES 8 % (4-13)
EOS 6 % (0-7)
BASOS 2 % (0-3)
Immature Grans (ABS) 0.0 x10e3/ul (0.0-0.1)
Immature Granulocytes 0 % (0-1)

 

[The Matrix]

MMMM let me see here ...this can be summed up probably in one question
How much flippin zinc are you taking?

 

[DragonRider]

Well, I see you have low white blood cell count and low neutrophils, I just don't know what effect that would have on hormones.

 

[4evathrowed]

MMMM let me see here ...this can be summed up probably in one question
How much flippin zinc are you taking?

50 mg of zinc a day plus a multivitamin with copper also vit d3 5000 iu daily why??????

 

[The Matrix]

50 mg of zinc a day plus a multivitamin with copper also vit d3 5000 iu daily why??????

and you wonder why Dr's have no clue whats going on when they do not ask the right questions..how sad..

You tell me ...

hint
neurophills and low WBC have what in common with zinc. ?

 

[JanSz]

20 Year old male /neutrophilis (absolute) 1.1 L x10e3/ul (1.8-7.8)
fsh 1.9 (1.5-12.4)
LH 6.2 (1.7-8.6)
lymps 54 H (14-46) High!!!!
testosterone TOTAL- 449 ng/dl (249- 836)...im mid range which isnt terrible
neutrophils 30 L (40-74) Low!!!!!!!
free testosterone (direct) 13.3 pg/ml (9.3-26.5)
sodium 139 (135-145)
potassium 4.0(3.5-5.2)
chloride 103 (97-108)
carbon dioxide total 23 (20-32)
bun 9 (6-20)
glucose 83 (65-99)
creatinine 1.15 (0.76 - 1.27)
calcium 9.7 (8.7- 10.2)
albumin 4.6 (3.5-5.5)
protein 7.0 (6.0-8.5)
cholesterol,total 143 (100-199)
WBC 3.7L x10e3/uL (4.0-10.5) LOW!!!!!!!!!!
triglycerides 68 (0-149)
hdl cholesteral 54 >39
ldl cholesteral calc 75 mg/dl (0-99)
vldl cholesterol cal 14 mg/dl (5 - 40)
globulin 2.4 (1.5-4.5)
tsh 2.380 uIU/mL (0.450- 4.500)
A/G Ratio- 1.9 (1.1-2.5)
bilirubin 0.6 (0.0-1.2)
alkaline phosphatase, s 61 (25-150)
ast (sgot) 25 (0-40)
alt (sgpt) 14 (0-55)
bun/creatinine ratio 8 (8-19)
eGFR IF African Am 105 ml/min/1.73 >59

Eat lots of eggs, better egg yolks, best all raw, more better.
Do not (yet) pass judgement on you suspected testicles that are not responding to very high LH.
Do not supplement with testosterone or HCG (not yet, hopefully not at all)
Eat selenium, iodione & iodide
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[4evathrowed]

and you wonder why Dr's have no clue whats going on when they do not ask the right questions..how sad..

You tell me ...

hint
neurophills and low WBC have what in common with zinc. ?

copper defiencey i guess I recently started taking the zinc are my levels fine also such as testosterone,lh,fsh and free t

 

[4evathrowed]

Eat lots of eggs, better egg yolks, best all raw, more better.
Do not (yet) pass judgement on you suspected testicles that are not responding to very high LH.
Do not supplement with testosterone or HCG (not yet, hopefully not at all)
Eat selenium, iodione & iodide
Get

blood

TSH
T4
FT4
T3
FT3
RT3

pregnenolone
progesterone

saliva
4x saliva FreeCortisol

====================================
Get stash of
Cytomel T3 pills
Sytnthroid T4 pills

Transdermal pregnenolone in Lipoderm base

Transdermal progesterone in Lipoderm base

=====================================
Post test results of tests above.

=====================================
University Compounding Pharmacy
1875 3rd Ave, San Diego, CA 92101, USA
Toll Free: 1-800-985-8065
Local: 1-619-683-2005
Fax: 1-619-683-2008
Email*[email protected]
=====================================
Script
300grams pregnenolone cream
200mg/gram in Lipoderm base
in 30mL Topi-Clic
total 10 Topi-Clicks
use 3mL/day=600mg/day
6 refils
Total cost $199.95 including $15 2nd day Fed-Ex

=====================================
Script
150mL progesterone cream
100mg/gram in Lipoderm base
in 30mL Topi-Clic
total 5 Topi-Clicks
6 refils
Total cost $119.95 plus $15 for 2nd day Fed-Ex



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I'm illiterate when it comes to hormones please be more descriptive but do I really need all that also should I stop taking the zinc.My doctor also never orders the whole thyroid panel.He only does TSH or TSH and Free T4 never the whole panel.I also was hit in the testicles maybe that's why my lh is high.I got my blood taken at 8:49 I went to sleep at 1:00 am and woke up at 5 something and stayed up till 8:49 when I had my blood taken.Also is my fsh level okay.

 

[The Matrix]

copper defiencey i guess I recently started taking the zinc are my levels fine also such as testosterone,lh,fsh and free t

You are learning ....

 

[DragonRider]

copper defiencey i guess

How did you know that? I didn't have a clue. I was waiting for Matrix to answer his own question.

 

[4evathrowed]

How did you know that? I didn't have a clue. I was waiting for Matrix to answer his own question.

Lol I was just as clueless as you I took a wild guess but i'm taking a multivitamin with 2 mg copper so shouldn't that balance out the 50 mg of zinc?????

 

[DragonRider]

Lol I was just as clueless as you I took a wild guess but i'm taking a multivitamin with 2 mg copper so shouldn't that balance out the 50 mg of zinc?????

I guess this is just one of those examples where it is not true for everyone. It appears some people get enough copper from their diets and don't need to supplement.
I have been reluctant to supplement with copper just from reading the problems associated with overdose. I would rather be low in some nutrients than high just because the problems of being too low are the lesser of two evils.

 

[4evathrowed]

CBC WITH DIFF/PLT

RED BLOOD CELL COUNT 4.65 x10e6/ul (4.10-5.60)
HEMOGLOBIN 14.1 (12.5-17.0 g/dL)
HEMATOCRIT 40.5 % (36.0-50.0 %)
MCV 87 fL (80-98 fl)
MCH 30.3 pg (27.0-34.0)
MCHC 34.8 g/dL (32-36)
RDW 13.1 % (11.7-15.0)
PLATELETS 244 x10E3/uL (140-415)
ABSOLUTE LYMPHS 2.0 x10e3/ul (0.7-4.5)
ABSOLUTE MONOCYTES 0.3 x10e3/ul (0.1-1.0)
ABSOLUTE EOS 0.2 x10e3/ul (0.0-0.4)
ABSOLUTE BASO 0.1 x10e3/ul (0.0-0.2)
MONOCYTES 8 % (4-13)
EOS 6 % (0-7)
BASOS 2 % (0-3)
Immature Grans (ABS) 0.0 x10e3/ul (0.0-0.1)
Immature Granulocytes 0 % (0-1)

 

[4evathrowed]

Eat lots of eggs, better egg yolks, best all raw, more better.
Do not (yet) pass judgement on you suspected testicles that are not responding to very high LH.
Do not supplement with testosterone or HCG (not yet, hopefully not at all)
Eat selenium, iodione & iodide
Get

blood

TSH
T4
FT4
T3
FT3
RT3

pregnenolone
progesterone

saliva
4x saliva FreeCortisol

====================================
Get stash of
Cytomel T3 pills
Sytnthroid T4 pills

Transdermal pregnenolone in Lipoderm base

Transdermal progesterone in Lipoderm base

=====================================
Post test results of tests above.

=====================================
University Compounding Pharmacy
1875 3rd Ave, San Diego, CA 92101, USA
Toll Free: 1-800-985-8065
Local: 1-619-683-2005
Fax: 1-619-683-2008
Email*[email protected]
=====================================
Script
300grams pregnenolone cream
200mg/gram in Lipoderm base
in 30mL Topi-Clic
total 10 Topi-Clicks
use 3mL/day=600mg/day
6 refils
Total cost $199.95 including $15 2nd day Fed-Ex

=====================================
Script
150mL progesterone cream
100mg/gram in Lipoderm base
in 30mL Topi-Clic
total 5 Topi-Clicks
6 refils
Total cost $119.95 plus $15 for 2nd day Fed-Ex



//

Are you serious lol???If so why should I do these things how do you feel about my blood work.Do you think me gettin hit in the testicle caused my lh to be high and testicles not responding.Plzzz help i'm slow when it comes to this type of stuff.

 

[4evathrowed]

Eat lots of eggs, better egg yolks, best all raw, more better.
Do not (yet) pass judgement on you suspected testicles that are not responding to very high LH.
Do not supplement with testosterone or HCG (not yet, hopefully not at all)
Eat selenium, iodione & iodide
Get

blood

TSH
T4
FT4
T3
FT3
RT3

pregnenolone
progesterone

saliva
4x saliva FreeCortisol

====================================
Get stash of
Cytomel T3 pills
Sytnthroid T4 pills

Transdermal pregnenolone in Lipoderm base

Transdermal progesterone in Lipoderm base

=====================================
Post test results of tests above.

=====================================
University Compounding Pharmacy
1875 3rd Ave, San Diego, CA 92101, USA
Toll Free: 1-800-985-8065
Local: 1-619-683-2005
Fax: 1-619-683-2008
Email*[email protected]
=====================================
Script
300grams pregnenolone cream
200mg/gram in Lipoderm base
in 30mL Topi-Clic
total 10 Topi-Clicks
use 3mL/day=600mg/day
6 refils
Total cost $199.95 including $15 2nd day Fed-Ex

=====================================
Script
150mL progesterone cream
100mg/gram in Lipoderm base
in 30mL Topi-Clic
total 5 Topi-Clicks
6 refils
Total cost $119.95 plus $15 for 2nd day Fed-Ex



//

Aren't raw eggs bad when you have a low blood cell count you trynna kill me.

 

[The Matrix]

Aren't raw eggs bad when you have a low blood cell count you trynna kill me.I guess somebody told you who I was.

Organic raw eggs are fine..wash out side of shell to be really safe.

 

[The Matrix]

I guess this is just one of those examples where it is not true for everyone. It appears some people get enough copper from their diets and don't need to supplement.
I have been reluctant to supplement with copper just from reading the problems associated with overdose. I would rather be low in some nutrients than high just because the problems of being too low are the lesser of two evils.

http://www.yourdenturecreamlawsuit.com/copper-deficiency-glossary

A deficiency in Copper can cause many hematological manifestations, such as myelodysplasia, anemia, leukopenia (low white blood cell count) and neutropenia (low count of neutrophils, a type of white blood cell that is often called "the first line of defense" for the immune system) The deficiency in copper can cause many hematological manifestations, such as myelodysplasia, anemia, leukopenia (low white blood cell count) and neutropenia (low count of neutrophils, a type of white blood cell that is often called "the first line of defense" for the immune system).



I only share a bit of what I really know

 

[4evathrowed]

Denture Cream Copper Deficiency Attorneys | Denture Cream Lawsuit

A deficiency in Copper can cause many hematological manifestations, such as myelodysplasia, anemia, leukopenia (low white blood cell count) and neutropenia (low count of neutrophils, a type of white blood cell that is often called "the first line of defense" for the immune system) The deficiency in copper can cause many hematological manifestations, such as myelodysplasia, anemia, leukopenia (low white blood cell count) and neutropenia (low count of neutrophils, a type of white blood cell that is often called "the first line of defense" for the immune system).



I only share a bit of what I really know

Yea I just guessed the first time but that's good to know 50 mg of zinc must be to much for me.I thought the multivitamin with 2mg copper would balance it out.I'm going to stop with the zinc for a while and just use the multivitamin and vitamin d3.You know anytips besides raw eggs to build my copper and immune system back I just caught a low grade fever cause my body's fighting back.Also Matrix how do you feel about my Testosterone levels lh and fsh.I have a doctors appointment in 2 weeks can you suggest any other blood work I might need done to get a clearer picture.

 

[DragonRider]

http://www.yourdenturecreamlawsuit.com/copper-deficiency-glossary

A deficiency in Copper can cause many hematological manifestations, such as myelodysplasia, anemia, leukopenia (low white blood cell count) and neutropenia (low count of neutrophils, a type of white blood cell that is often called "the first line of defense" for the immune system) The deficiency in copper can cause many hematological manifestations, such as myelodysplasia, anemia, leukopenia (low white blood cell count) and neutropenia (low count of neutrophils, a type of white blood cell that is often called "the first line of defense" for the immune system).



I only share a bit of what I really know

I did not know that, but after reading articles like the one below it seems that copper might be too dangerous to mess with unless you have blood work showing you whether you are high or low.

http://www.nutritional-healing.com.au/content/articles-content.php?heading=Copper excess
Articles
Copper excess
Last updated: 08/07/2009

Copper is an essential mineral with a number of important functions. While copper deficiency is relatively rare, copper excess (hypercupremia) is surprisingly common. Excess copper is predominantly a condition present in women. For example in women diagnosed with major depression 45% have excess copper levels while only 3% of men with major depression have excess copper. (Pfeiffer Treatment Center data) This gender difference is due to estrogen causing an elevation of copper levels. Excess levels of copper increases norepinephrine levels, causing anxiety, and causes oxidative stress.

Copper excess signs/symptoms.
•Anxious/agitated
•Difficulty falling asleep
•Poor concentration
•Depressed (especially premenstrually or after pregnancy/childbirth)
•Tinnitus (ringing in ears)
•Frontal headaches
•Temper/tantrums
•Hyperactivity

 

[DragonRider]

Here is another article I've found. I'm not conservative when it comes to supplements, but something about copper worries me.

http://www.holistic-back-relief.com/copper-toxicity.html
Elevated Copper in the body acts like caffeine or even amphetamines. It constantly keeps the conversion of dopamine into norepinephrine going so that you have a constant adrenaline rush to help you be on the go, but you also are unable to settle down or turn off your mind.

Copper toxicity symptoms

•Acne
•Allergies
•Hair loss
•Anemia
•Anorexia
•Anxiety
•Attention deficit disorder
•Arthritis
•Asthma
•Autism
•Candida overgrowth
•Depression
•Dysmenorrhea
•Male infertility
•Prostatitis
•Fibromyalgia
•Migraine Headaches
•PMS
•Chronic infections
•Insomnia
•Racing thoughts
•Neuralgia (nerve pain)
•Sciatica
•Hypertension
•Hypothyroidism
•Schizophrenia
•Bipolar (Manic Depression)

 

[DragonRider]

Last one.

http://www.nutritional-solutions.com/asp/copper.asp
Copper Toxicity

The information given here is of a general nature and is for educational purposes only. It is in no way intended to reflect the findings in this report.

Common Symptoms of Copper Toxicity

•A tired body and an overactive mind
•Anxiety
•Premenstrual syndrome
•Migraine headaches
•Cravings for high-copper foods such
•as chocolate, nuts, avocados
•Depression
•Frequent colds, flues and viruses
•Easy or frequent bruising, specifically capillary fragility

Risk Factors of Copper Toxicity

•Slow metabolism
•Excessive stress
•High estrogen levels
•The birth-control pill or a copper IUD
•Some silver amalgam or gold alloy dental fillings
•Zinc deficiency
•Vegetarian diet

SYMPTOMS ASSOCIATED WITH A COPPER EXCESS

•acne
•adrenal insufficiency
•allergies
•alopecia
•anemia
•anorexia
•anxiety
•arthritis
•autism
•cholesterol, elevated
•cancer
•cystic fibrosis
•depression, mental
•diabetes
•estrogen (imbalance)
•fatigue
•fears
•fractures, bone
•headaches (migraine)
•hemorrhages
•heart disease
•hyperactivity
•hypertension
•hyperthyroidism
•hypochlorhydria
•hypoglycernia
•infections
•inflammation
•insomnia
•mind racing
•mood swings
•multiple sclerosis
•myocardial infarction
•nausea
•pancreatic dysfunction
•premenstrual tension
•schizophrenia
•sexual inadequacy
•spaciness
•strokes
•tooth decay
•urinary tract infections
•vitamin deficiencies

 

[The Matrix]

Here is another article I've found. I'm not conservative when it comes to supplements, but something about copper worries me.

http://www.holistic-back-relief.com/copper-toxicity.html
Elevated Copper in the body acts like caffeine or even amphetamines. It constantly keeps the conversion of dopamine into norepinephrine going so that you have a constant adrenaline rush to help you be on the go, but you also are unable to settle down or turn off your mind.

Copper toxicity symptoms

•Acne
•Allergies
•Hair loss
•Anemia
•Anorexia
•Anxiety
•Attention deficit disorder
•Arthritis
•Asthma
•Autism
•Candida overgrowth
•Depression
•Dysmenorrhea
•Male infertility
•Prostatitis
•Fibromyalgia
•Migraine Headaches
•PMS
•Chronic infections
•Insomnia
•Racing thoughts
•Neuralgia (nerve pain)
•Sciatica
•Hypertension
•Hypothyroidism
•Schizophrenia
•Bipolar (Manic Depression)

Fyi,
I have dealt with alot of copper issues myself with many guys. It can be a tricky beast, but we run a copper serum and ceruloplasm test. If it is low when I look at there supplement sheet there is normally >50 mgs of zinc usually taken. 2 mgs of copper when attached to a mulitivtamin which is most likely unbioavailable in the first place is going to result in vitamin deficeincies. I hear this all the time. I can not be deficeint I take a centrum.
After running hundreds of nutritional evaluations your better off eating a candy bar then taking that pill. You can literally crap the pill out and then read the number on the pilll. Over a huge percentage of pills end up in our water supply. Birthcontrol being the biggest onder:

 

[DragonRider]

Over a huge percentage of pills end up in our water supply. Birthcontrol being the biggest onder:

That's great. Now we are drinking estrogen in our water supply. No wonder so many young men are showing testosterone deficiencies.

 

[4evathrowed]

That's great. Now we are drinking estrogen in our water supply. No wonder so many young men are showing testosterone deficiencies.

That's why I drink strictly spring water but knowing how messed up this world is it's probably contaminated with something too.Us humans are polluting and destroying the natural resources we need such as trees rain forest crops and drinking water.

 

[The Matrix]

That's why I drink strictly spring water but knowing how messed up this world is it's probably contaminated with something too.Us humans are polluting and destroying the natural resources we need such as trees rain forest crops and drinking water.

Spring water out of plastic bottles ..and people wondered why society is so Fu up hormonally

 

[4evathrowed]

Why is my Lh so high