Androgel - very confused
- 01-19-2011, 06:53 PM
Androgel - very confused
Got prescribed Androgel today, first its exp as hell. Im confused about the benefits. I have a 6 to1 T to E and have trouble getting super lean, mass is not a problem. Im worried taking this Im going to balloon up rather than cut. It seems results are split 50/50% Is that because DHT getting increased??Please help.
- 01-20-2011, 07:28 AM
I'm not sure exactly what you mean by balloon up. I've seen people on a buttload of test who were pretty lean and I've seen others who were just plain massive and puffy. I don't subscribe to the theory that one drug will bulk you and another will cut you. Alot of this started because some drugs cause you to retain more water than others. Anyway, my answer is this. Your diet is going to determine which way you go, not the Androgel itself. You will get some benefit if you are bringing your levels way up from where they were. Otherwise, it's pretty much accepted that Androgel in prescribed dosages does very little for muscle growth. I hate to disappoint you but I fear this is going to be a non event unless you get creative . Good luck
- 01-20-2011, 07:38 AM
01-20-2011, 11:30 AM
yeah its still like 90 a tube though, even with good insurance. I know diet and excise are key. You just read about people getting their T up over a 10/0 and having a lot easier time getting lean...
01-20-2011, 11:23 PM
Ditch the androgel and get Test Cyp injections every 2-3 weeks. Androgel is sticky, doesn't absorb, and all the patients I have that use it, still have low levels even with it.
01-21-2011, 07:22 AM
Bravo. Excellent idea. Even better if you can get the vial and give them yourself.
01-21-2011, 10:58 AM
01-22-2011, 09:54 AM
01-22-2011, 03:35 PM
Not going to happen. I had hope for the andro series but I gave up. Phytoserm by RLS supps is a good option too.
01-23-2011, 12:48 AM
01-23-2011, 09:52 AM
under my insurance plan a 10 ml 200mg per ml vial of test cyp cost $8. the syringes are not covered for some reason and cost a whopping .20c.
01-24-2011, 12:28 AM
You taught me something new or there insurance blows!
01-24-2011, 12:41 AM
I love me some androgel. I've used it for years. Its true it doesn't absorb well in some patients. Myself, I keep test levels between 900-1000 on 10 grams a day.. I also work with bout 12 guys who are all on it and love it the same
Arnold SchwarzeneggerOriginally Posted by Arnold Schwarzenegger
01-24-2011, 12:41 PM
01-25-2011, 12:04 AM
01-25-2011, 04:22 PM
01-25-2011, 05:19 PM
Ditch the androgel for Testim. Proven 40 percent better absorption !! Look it up.
01-25-2011, 05:25 PM
01-25-2011, 07:11 PM
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01-27-2011, 01:25 AM
01-27-2011, 12:49 PM
01-27-2011, 12:54 PM
01-27-2011, 01:13 PM
Big T. don't forget about propionate which is 2-3 times a week. However, I haven't heard that name in awhile. That's a sweet dose for TRT. Most docs here won't go over 200 every few weeks.
01-27-2011, 01:26 PM
01-27-2011, 02:11 PM
01-27-2011, 02:22 PM
01-27-2011, 08:53 PM
However, he is incorrect that frequent shots cause the roller coaster effect. Injections done every two or three weeks is what causes the roller coaster effect due to testoserone levels dropping too low between injections.
Once a week should be the minimum frequency needed to prevent test from going to low between injections.
01-27-2011, 09:00 PM
IF your doctor will prescribe it, injections are the cheapest way to go. Some doctors refuse because of the stigma attached to prescribing steroids. Transdermals are just least likely to be abused. It's almost impossible.
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01-29-2011, 02:13 PM
01-29-2011, 09:35 PM
01-29-2011, 09:45 PM
i started trt 8/28/09 and test has gone from double digits up to the 700 range. i am afraid if it goes any higher my doc will reduce dosage.
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