Androgel - very confused

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    3 shots a week??? my doc originally had me on 400mg every 2 weeks-i changed it to 200 weekly. average life of test cyp is around 12 days.

    sorry-you were given bad info-there is absolutely no need to inject test cyp 3xweek.
    No need to apologize. I was just going off of what I heard. Glad the once a week shot is working for you.


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  3. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    sorry-you were given bad info-there is absolutely no need to inject test cyp 3xweek.
    Two or even more shots per week help some HRT patients because it can cause less aromatization to estrogen.
    However, he is incorrect that frequent shots cause the roller coaster effect. Injections done every two or three weeks is what causes the roller coaster effect due to testoserone levels dropping too low between injections.
    Once a week should be the minimum frequency needed to prevent test from going to low between injections.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by cheezscott View Post
    Got prescribed Androgel today, first its exp as hell. Im confused about the benefits. I have a 6 to1 T to E and have trouble getting super lean, mass is not a problem. Im worried taking this Im going to balloon up rather than cut. It seems results are split 50/50% Is that because DHT getting increased??Please help.
    If it absorbs well for you, then the increase in both testosterone and DHT will help you drop bodyfat. When I was on it, it cost me $246 a month after insurance. If you are paying less consider yourself lucky.

    IF your doctor will prescribe it, injections are the cheapest way to go. Some doctors refuse because of the stigma attached to prescribing steroids. Transdermals are just least likely to be abused. It's almost impossible.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by DragonRider View Post
    Two or even more shots per week help some HRT patients because it can cause less aromatization to estrogen.
    However, he is incorrect that frequent shots cause the roller coaster effect. Injections done every two or three weeks is what causes the roller coaster effect due to testoserone levels dropping too low between injections.
    Once a week should be the minimum frequency needed to prevent test from going to low between injections.
    injecting every 5 days seems perfectly reasonable, but 3 injections within 7 days on test cyp seems extreme to me.
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    injecting every 5 days seems perfectly reasonable, but 3 injections within 7 days on test cyp seems extreme to me.
    You need to get up to date on proper HRT methods. The lower and more frequent the shot the less fluctuation in e2 due to more stable levels.
    We have many guys including my self who were on AI and now do not need them any more.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    You need to get up to date on proper HRT methods. The lower and more frequent the shot the less fluctuation in e2 due to more stable levels.
    We have many guys including my self who were on AI and now do not need them any more.
    Do you have any literature, prescribing information or articles expanding on this theory, I just talked to a guy who recently got on shots and hes getting 1 200mg cyp every 2 weeks, and I told him hes in for a roller coaster ride.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    You need to get up to date on proper HRT methods. The lower and more frequent the shot the less fluctuation in e2 due to more stable levels.
    We have many guys including my self who were on AI and now do not need them any more.
    how often and how much are you injecting?

    i am always open for better results.
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    how often and how much are you injecting?

    i am always open for better results.
    In our patients we usually inject 2 times a week to keep levels stable in the average person. With people that have higher e2 and lower SHBG EOD injections are a better option. I have been using this with our patients for over 4 years with great results reducing the need for AI which can cause decreases in igf-1, and changes in lipid panel with some people. We also use hcg inbetween dosages at low dosages just stimulate the LH with least amount of e2 increase.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by The Matrix View Post
    In our patients we usually inject 2 times a week to keep levels stable in the average person. With people that have higher e2 and lower SHBG EOD injections are a better option. I have been using this with our patients for over 4 years with great results reducing the need for AI which can cause decreases in igf-1, and changes in lipid panel with some people. We also use hcg inbetween dosages at low dosages just stimulate the LH with least amount of e2 increase.
    my estrogen is in the mid to low range, and i haven't been using hcg-do you think i will see a benefit at every 3 days versus every 7 days?

    i started trt 8/28/09 and test has gone from double digits up to the 700 range. i am afraid if it goes any higher my doc will reduce dosage.
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!
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