HCG and Prohormones.

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I posted a discussion about this over on the “Anabolics” section titled:
"Physical issues, HGC and Prohormones (Finaflex)."
I was informed that some further information may be obtained over here.

Here is the deal:
I was recently prescribed HCG for low testosterone levels. Several months ago (Prior to HCG), I completed one cycle of Finaflex with proper PCT and it worked really really well for me (Purchased 8 bottles of it!). That being said, my testosterone level (low) returned to the same level (low) upon completion of the PCT. Keep in mind that the my test levels were checked prior to and after using the Finaflex so it was not the cause. After seeing a specialist, he immediatly prescribed me HCG.

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Because the Finaflex worked well for me, I asked around and was told that it was a really bad idea to combine HCG and Finaflex due to the potential for really bad side effects. The issue being that both substances have the potential to raise estrogen levels pretty high. That is understood, but what if a decent AI/AE was also used?

This cycle is only being considered for implementation later on down the road once an acceptable level of testosterone is acquired. Right now, my dosages of HCG are way high- 1ML (2000IU) EOD.

Anyway, good idea or bad idea to run these two together?
What would be an ideal way to cycle the Finaflex with the HCG (and AI/AE)?
 

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Ditch the Finaflex and find something safer...possibly another prescription?
 

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That's a huge dose of HCG way too frequently. That alone would raise your E2 pretty high. Combine the two and you are looking at even higher E2. I would think an AI would be required. Why screw around with PH? Why not just get on HRT and get your levels normal and make good gains that way?
 
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Who said that finaflex raises estrogen levels?
 

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Huge dose

That's a huge dose of HCG way too frequently. That alone would raise your E2 pretty high. Combine the two and you are looking at even higher E2. I would think an AI would be required. Why screw around with PH? Why not just get on HRT and get your levels normal and make good gains that way?
I agree, but that's actually a very common dosage level for the initial phase of implementing HCG for test level issues. The dosages are issue specific with the initial dosages being very high to determine the body’s reaction. The only issue I have is low test for my age and I just started the HCG.

I'm no expert and that's how it was explained to me.

The Finaflex is only being considered for use AFTER I get the dosages down to what would be considered a "normal" maintenance dosage. Keep in mind that I just started with the HCG.

As far as HRT, the options were HGH and HCG. Per the doc, if I planned on having kids, I should go with the HCG.
 

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Who said that finaflex raises estrogen levels?

Actually, just about everyone I talked to about it. Much like Tren, it has the potential to raise estrogen levels depending on how the body interprets where it goes.

Again, I'm no expert here.
 
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Tren doesn't have the ability to raise estrogen either. :)

Both have the potential to raise prolactin, but thats a totally different hormone than estrogen.
 

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Prolactin

Tren doesn't have the ability to raise estrogen either. :)

Both have the potential to raise prolactin, but thats a totally different hormone than estrogen.
Ah.....ok.
Can you break it down for me and let me know how to deal with the prolactin then? Thanks!
 
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I am a fan of using no support products unless you actually need them. So using a support product for prolactin before you have been observed to have issues is a silly thing to me. If you've previously run the finaflex without it then i would just make sure your testosterone + estrogen levels are in normal range before running it again, as an abnormally high estrogen level isn't a good thing regardless
 

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