Premature Ejaculation

[MetalMX]

I have a really really bad problem with PE. Is this primarily caused by low testosterone... or are their other causes like thyroid/adrenal issues?

And what can i do to remedy it?

 

[The Matrix]

I have a really really bad problem with PE. Is this primarily caused by low testosterone... or are their other causes like thyroid/adrenal issues?

And what can i do to remedy it?

Actually do to low serotonin increasing anxiety. AKA your getty itchy trigger figure LOL. This will all get corrected once you get other issues balanced. In clincal practice low dose paxil 10-12 mgs may be enough to offset this, but personally I would look for root cause ...hence your screwed up methylation issue that need to be addressed properly.

 

[MetalMX]

Yea i know i know the root cause,

but i need something to remedy the problem for the time being at least a bit!

5HTP maybe for over the counter...?

 

[The Matrix]

Yea i know i know the root cause,

but i need something to remedy the problem for the time being at least a bit!

5HTP maybe for over the counter...?

100 mgs a night before bed time with 500 mgs niacin Time released would work good since 5htp can cause a niacin defieincy. Want to increase the dosage every 4 days 100 mgs of 5 htp till you get properl sleep. This should also help with constipation.

 

[MacWanted]

Hi MetalMX,

Did you solve your PE issue?

 

[cumkwakka]

PE can be by too much histamine, try some loratadine for the meanwhile

low dopamine can also be a factor.. heard many guys having success with some l-dopa

low serotonin is another.. paxil would help but im not a fan of ssri's so 5-htp may help

 

[jtmarlin]

Honestly mate, PE is a good thing IMO. It means that your drive is high and your gear is working properly. You can try the delayed release condom... it has a cream on the inside that slightly numbs the penis to prolong orgasm. O you can just do what I did when I couldn't hold it. Get round one out of the way and then round 2 ill be much much better. Just let her know she's got another round coming!

 

[dsade]

PE can be by too much histamine, try some loratadine for the meanwhile

low dopamine can also be a factor.. heard many guys having success with some l-dopa

low serotonin is another.. paxil would help but im not a fan of ssri's so 5-htp may help

Go lower tech and just try benedryl. Also, if you can maintain desire, try regular masturbation to reduce that overwhelming hunger.

 

[roids1]

Just JO more often. If you're only AP like once a week or less, you could just be overly anxious when the time comes. Try rubbing one out in the morning when you know you're gonna AP later in the day and you should last longer.

GICH!

 

[supmax]

JO will do more harm then good; im not going to debate i know more masturbating is the not the answer. only masturbate more if you want to drain testosterone, nutrients and neurotranmitters. FACT i dont care whatever BS people spread around here that jerking off everyday is safe and healthy. there morons.the more you jerk off the worse your premature ejaculation will get,

want to really fix PE? optimze thyroid, e2, testosterone, adrenals and depleted minerals... start having sex and not ejaculating (stop and start method);; quit porn, and masturbating all together, there bad for the brain. masturbating will drain the brain and hormones

 

[dsade]

JO will do more harm then good; im not going to debate i know more masturbating is the not the answer. only masturbate more if you want to drain testosterone, nutrients and neurotranmitters. FACT i dont care whatever BS people spread around here that jerking off everyday is safe and healthy. there morons.the more you jerk off the worse your premature ejaculation will get,

want to really fix PE? optimze thyroid, e2, testosterone, adrenals... start having sex and not ejaculating. quit porn, and masturbating all together, there bad for the brain.

Got a citation for this?

 

[supmax]

its something i have learned from talking to hundreds of men (if not thousands) over the past 10 years.
theres a strong link between jerking off to much and a whole host of health problems, sexual dysfunction, etc.

masturbating to much drains testosterone... im banking on that.

use or lose it , but never abuse it.

 

[dsade]

its something i have learned from talking to hundreds of men (if not thousands) over the past 10 years.
theres a strong link between jerking off to much and a whole host of health problems, sexual dysfunction, etc.

masturbating to much drains testosterone... im banking on that.

use or lose it , but never abuse it.

Excessive, perhaps...but average activity actually raises test.

 

[supmax]

testosterone spikes PEAK 8 days after an ejaculation.. if this is the case 1 ejaculate every 8 days.

 

[engival]

http://www.boost-your-low-testosterone.com/Testosterone-Masturbation.html

In other words, the men who did not orgasm during the study period, had higher levels of testosterone, compared to the men who did.

http://www.wilywalnut.com/sexgenius.html

some of the greatest minds would abstain..

Muhammad Ali knew it. All the great fighters know it. You can't be at your best if you've recently "come".

 

[roids1]

JO will do more harm then good; im not going to debate i know more masturbating is the not the answer. only masturbate more if you want to drain testosterone, nutrients and neurotranmitters. FACT i dont care whatever BS people spread around here that jerking off everyday is safe and healthy. there morons.the more you jerk off the worse your premature ejaculation will get,

want to really fix PE? optimze thyroid, e2, testosterone, adrenals and depleted minerals... start having sex and not ejaculating (stop and start method);; quit porn, and masturbating all together, there bad for the brain. masturbating will drain the brain and hormones

All I know is that if I have been masturbating regularly for over 20 years and my t levels have always been fine. I'm bigger/stronger at 35 than I was at 25. If masturbation does truly "drain the brain and hormones," then I should be 120lbs and senile by now. Care to share your sources?

 

[jakellpet]

All I know is that if I have been masturbating regularly for over 20 years and my t levels have always been fine. I'm bigger/stronger at 35 than I was at 25. If masturbation does truly "drain the brain and hormones," then I should be 120lbs and senile by now. Care to share your sources?

+1 . . and invest in either a Fleshlight or the WankMaster2000TM for a more enjoyable experience :thumbsup:


GICH!

 

[supmax]

All I know is that if I have been masturbating regularly for over 20 years and my t levels have always been fine. I'm bigger/stronger at 35 than I was at 25. If masturbation does truly "drain the brain and hormones," then I should be 120lbs and senile by now. Care to share your sources?

ok great, i know someone who smoked and drank and lived to be 103, should i start doing this?

masturbating in excess is harmful, i know this; But it doesnt effect everyone the same, It could be that some men are genetically able to have many ejaculations before getting depleted'; some men can get away with Jacking it 2x daily. or even 1x daily. But it catches up to them (just as smoking usually does); they will eventually suffer. Look i have no real sources, it's just something i picked up over the years. This is my opinion and i think im correct. each to there
own.
Usually the ones that suffer the most are the ones who have an addictive behavior towards porn and excessive ejaculations.
For some reason sex doesnt seem to have the same effects on the body as porn.masturbating.
traditional chinese medicine sees this as well

 

[roids1]

Personally, I'd go with the AccuJack3000, but good luck with which ever you choose. :cheers:

 

[roids1]

ok great, i know someone who smoked and drank and lived to be 103, should i start doing this?

You mean, you don't smoke, drink, or masturbate! :jaw: I don't think I'd want to live to be 103.

I'd be quick on the gun also mate.

 

[supmax]

i get sex all the time, no need to JO

lift is short i'd love to live to that age as long as im healthy and can function as a man of course.

 

[jtmarlin]

This is just crazy nonsense... frequent masturbation causes worse PE? Porno is bad for the brain? This is all nonsense. Premature ejaculation tends to spontaneously fix itself as the subject ages and has more experience. Those are 2 things that you left out in the first post... how old and how experienced are you? If you seldom get any action and you are young, of course you stand a higher chance of PE! You've got a loaded ****ing weapon that needs release. When I first started having sex, I couldn't last more than a minute. Even when I was 25, if I started seeing a new girl, I would be done very very quickly during round 1. The more we had sex the longer I could last. Round 2 is another story... My current lady has been with me for 3 years. I control the pace and can stop start as long as it takes. If we were to just go straight all out instead of varying speeds, I wouldn't last more than few minutes.

 

[REEVESDIESEL]

Just saw the title, haven't read any remarks. After yrs. of jerking off it becomes routine. I'd right now order the Fleshlight!! This thing is remarkable! Feels like a *****, you don't mind using it 2-3 x a day, it just never gets old....like good ol' yummy *****!

Then, with LOTS of practice, you'll be lasting like a champ. Get the Stamina Training Unit! This thing is G R E A T!

YOU GOTTA CLEAN THOSE PIPES! Ha!

 

[REEVESDIESEL]

This is just crazy nonsense... frequent masturbation causes worse PE? Porno is bad for the brain? This is all nonsense. Premature ejaculation tends to spontaneously fix itself as the subject ages and has more experience. Those are 2 things that you left out in the first post... how old and how experienced are you? If you seldom get any action and you are young, of course you stand a higher chance of PE! You've got a loaded ****ing weapon that needs release. When I first started having sex, I couldn't last more than a minute. Even when I was 25, if I started seeing a new girl, I would be done very very quickly during round 1. The more we had sex the longer I could last. Round 2 is another story... My current lady has been with me for 3 years. I control the pace and can stop start as long as it takes. If we were to just go straight all out instead of varying speeds, I wouldn't last more than few minutes.

When I was with new ladies luckly I would last forever. I was scared I'd blow my load to quickly and they would think I'm not THE MAN. So I'd jerk off like no ones biz! But now with this Fleshlight I'm like a porn star. Hahhahaha! Life is good!

 

[supmax]

This is just crazy nonsense... frequent masturbation causes worse PE? Porno is bad for the brain? This is all nonsense. Premature ejaculation tends to spontaneously fix itself as the subject ages and has more experience. Those are 2 things that you left out in the first post... how old and how experienced are you? If you seldom get any action and you are young, of course you stand a higher chance of PE! You've got a loaded ****ing weapon that needs release. When I first started having sex, I couldn't last more than a minute. Even when I was 25, if I started seeing a new girl, I would be done very very quickly during round 1. The more we had sex the longer I could last. Round 2 is another story... My current lady has been with me for 3 years. I control the pace and can stop start as long as it takes. If we were to just go straight all out instead of varying speeds, I wouldn't last more than few minutes.

i dont care what you people do... jerk off all you want
people can justify there needs to smoke and jerk offf..
im 100% positive porno and masturbating are harmful; the greatest minds on the planet knew this hundreds of years ago. (most people today just arent that bright) the greatest figthers/boxers would abstain during training...doing this builds up CHI
there additive, they put the mind in a fight or flight mode, they release a boat load of neurotranmitters... porn is virtual crack. POrno puts the mind in an extrem overly sexually charged state, this obviously can not be healthy. Like i said, must people can't figure this stuff out on there own... each to there own

most if you will be 50 years old with terrible ED.. have fun popping blue pills daily.

 

[dsade]

i dont care what you people do... jerk off all you want
people can justify there needs to smoke and jerk offf..
im 100% positive porno and masturbating are harmful; the greatest minds on the planet knew this hundreds of years ago. (most people today just arent that bright) the greatest figthers/boxers would abstain during training...doing this builds up CHI
there additive, they put the mind in a fight or flight mode, they release a boat load of neurotranmitters... porn is virtual crack. POrno puts the mind in an extrem overly sexually charged state, this obviously can not be healthy. Like i said, must people can't figure this stuff out on there own... each to there own

most if you will be 50 years old with terrible ED.. have fun popping blue pills daily.

Trust me, Bro!

I FEEL it's true, therefore it MUST be true and you all are idiots for not believing me.

 

[supmax]

Internet Porn: Worse Than Crack?
Ryan Singel Email 11.19.04

Internet pornography is the new crack cocaine, leading to addiction, misogyny, pedophilia, boob jobs and erectile dysfunction, according to clinicians and researchers testifying before a Senate committee Thursday.

Witnesses before the Senate Commerce Committee's Science, Technology and Space Subcommittee spared no superlative in their description of the negative effects of pornography.

Mary Anne Layden, co-director of the Sexual Trauma and Psychopathology Program at the University of Pennsylvania's Center for Cognitive Therapy, called porn the "most concerning thing to psychological health that I know of existing today."

"The internet is a perfect drug delivery system because you are anonymous, aroused and have role models for these behaviors," Layden said. "To have drug pumped into your house 24/7, free, and children know how to use it better than grown-ups know how to use it -- it's a perfect delivery system if we want to have a whole generation of young addicts who will never have the drug out of their mind."

Pornography addicts have a more difficult time recovering from their addiction than cocaine addicts, since coke users can get the drug out of their system, but pornographic images stay in the brain forever, Layden said.

Jeffrey Satinover, a psychiatrist and advisor to the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality echoed Layden's concern about the internet and the somatic effects of pornography.

"Pornography really does, unlike other addictions, biologically cause direct release of the most perfect addictive substance," Satinover said. "That is, it causes masturbation, which causes release of the naturally occurring opioids. It does what heroin can't do, in effect."

The internet is dangerous because it removes the inefficiency in the delivery of pornography, making porn much more ubiquitous than in the days when guys in trench coats would sell nudie postcards, Satinover said.

Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kansas), the subcommittee's chairman, called the hearing the most disturbing one he'd ever seen in the Senate. Brownback said porn was ubiquitous now, compared to when he was growing up and "some guy would sneak a magazine in somewhere and show some of us, but you had to find him at the right time."

The hearing came just days after a controversy over a sexually suggestive Monday Night Football ad that has many foreseeing a crackdown on indecency by the Federal Communications Commission.

It is unclear what the consequences of Thursday's hearing will be since it was not connected to any pending or proposed legislation.

Brownback, a conservative Christian, is also scheduled to be rotated off the sub-committee in the next session.

When Brownback asked the panelists for suggestions about what should be done, the responses were mild, considering their earlier indictment of pornography. Several suggested that federal money be allocated to fund brain-mapping studies into the physical effects of pornography.

Judith Reisman of the California Protective Parents Association suggested that more study of "erototoxins" could show how pornography is not speech-protected under the First Amendment.

The panelists all agreed that the government should fund health campaigns to educate the public about the dangers of pornography. The campaign should combat the messages of pornography by putting signs on buses saying sex with children is not OK, said Layden.

However, as the panelists themselves acknowledged, there is no consensus among mental health professionals about the dangers of porn or the use of the term "pornography addiction."

Many psychologists and most sexologists find the concepts of sex and pornography addiction problematic, said Carol Queen, staff sexologist for the San Francisco-based, woman-owned Good Vibrations.

Queen questioned the validity of the panel for not including anyone who thinks "pornography is not particularly problematic in most people's lives."

Queen acknowledges she can name people who have compulsive and destructive behavior centered on pornography, but argues that can happen with other activities, such as gambling and shopping.

Queen also criticized the methodology behind research showing that pornography stimulates the brain like drugs do, saying the research needs to take into account how sex itself stimulates the brain.

"There's no doubt the brain lights up when sexually aroused," Queen said.

Queen too would like to see more money devoted to research on sex, but thinks it is unlikely that researchers on either side of the divide are likely to receive large grants any time soon.

Studies intended to show the harmful effects of pornography must contend with ethical rules prohibiting harm to human subjects, while sex researchers have a hard time getting any funding, unless their study is specifically HIV-related, according to Queen.

........................

 

[supmax]

you all are idiots for not believing me.

you can that again.

 

[dsade]

Physiol Res. 2006;55(4):429-36. Epub 2005 Oct 17.

Circulating neuroactive C21- and C19-steroids in young men before and after ejaculation.
Stárka L, Hill M, Havlíková H, Kancheva L, Sobotka V.

Institute of Endocrinology, Prague, Czech Republic. [email protected]

Twelve neuroactive and neuroprotective steroids, androgens and androgen precursors i.e. 3alpha,17beta-dihydroxy-5alpha-androstane, 3alpha-hydroxy-5alpha-androstan-17-one, 3alpha-hydroxy-5beta-androstan-17-one, androst-5-ene-3beta,17beta-diol, 3beta,17alpha-dihydroxy-pregn-5-en-20-one (17alpha-hydroxy-pregnenolone), 3beta-hydroxy-androst-5-en-17-one (dehydroepiandrosterone, DHEA), testosterone, androst-4-ene-3,17-dione (androstenedione), 3alpha-hydroxy-5alpha-pregnan-20-one (allopregnanolone), 3beta-hydroxy-pregn-5-en-20-one (pregnenolone), 7alpha-hydroxy-DHEA, and 7beta-hydroxy-DHEA were measured using the GC-MS system in young men before and after ejaculation provoked by masturbation. The circulating level of 17alpha-hydroxypregnenolone increased significantly, whereas the other circulating steroids were not changed at all. This fact speaks against the hypothesis that a drop in the level of neuroactive steroids, e.g. allopregnanolone may trigger the orgasm-related increase of oxytocin, reported by other authors.

 

[engival]

Just want to share this interesting article with all of you:
Supmax would agree on these.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupids-poisoned-arrow/200907/sexual-superabundance-ii

some more:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupids-poisoned-arrow/200908/orgasm-s-hidden-cycle
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupids-poisoned-arrow/200908/the-passion-cycle

I do think that having ejaculations in moderation is the best thing. We today live in a sex world which gives us the urge to ejaculate more than humans have previously done. I do believe ejaculating via masturbating is really not that healthy as many people claim. I think supmax is onto something

 

[REEVESDIESEL]

You all are homos.

(whining) don't jerk off! It's bad! Your a sinner! It's really BAD. You'll go blind!

(SCREAMING LIKE A LITTLE BITCH) Your a bad, bad person. Your palms will get hairy, and the devil will take your soul.

hAHAHHAHA! ****ing douche.

 

[jakellpet]

Scientists have discovered that frequent masterbation using the left-hand for right-handed males actually repairs motor neurons destroyed by diseases such as dementia or Parkinson's.

 

[engival]

Scientists have discovered that frequent masterbation using the left-hand for right-handed males actually repairs motor neurons destroyed by diseases such as dementia or Parkinson's.

link?????

 

[jakellpet]

link?????

sure thing:

www.wank4health.com\research\article.pdf


GICH!

 

[jakellpet]

another low IQ person... moron. dont waste my time please.

Disrespectful comments earns negative reps! :twak:

 

[engival]

ok and i care?
i guess that will boost your ego, since you cant do it in your real pathetic life.

 

[jakellpet]

ok and i care?
i guess that will boost your ego, since you cant do it in your real pathetic life.

WOW LIKE I GIVE A FLYING ****.. ****ING 10 year OLD RETARD..

It appears you really do care. :13:

Looks like someone needs to spend some me time with a jar of vasaline. :cheers:

 

[engival]

i'll just spend it with your x wife; u prolly sucked in bed, thats why u divorced.

 

[jakellpet]

i'll just spend it with your x wife; u prolly sucked in bed, thats why u divorced.

OMG . . I didnt think you would stoop to so low! :zx11pissed:

 

[engival]

you mean sleeping with someone as hideous as your x-wife?

 

[jakellpet]

you mean sleeping with someone as hideous as your x-wife?

ok BrainsTrust, here's a question for you:

Why would I be insulted by you or your goat-blowing Uncle wishing to have sex with my Ex-Wife, hmm?

Now why you ponder that and the meaning of life, Im off to rub one out :thumbsup:

GICH!

 

[SilentBob187]

You should seriously try Vitamin C and LHJO

Before VitC & LHJO:

After VitC & LHJO:

 

[jakellpet]

Greetings SilentBob!

Looks like my new friend engival is deleting some of posts. He doesn’t seem to realise that his posts will forever be preserved in the quotes of others!

Quite ironic considering his propensity for throwing around adjectives such as 'moron' and 'retard', don't you think?

Loving your work by the way.

Yours Sincerely,

jakellpet

 

[engival]

35 years old, have no wife, and you have 4700 posts.. your a real catch; ladies must be lined up.

I'm done here. i have a life. bye

 

[jakellpet]

35 years old, have no wife, and you have 4700 posts.. your a real catch; ladies must be lined up.

I'm done here. i have a life. bye

Have a nice life! :laugh:

 

[roids1]

I think supermax is just one of those with a moral issue against JO and pr0n and will likely resort to a lot of pseudo science to back it up, kind of like the "flat-earthers" who still insist that evolution is bunk and the world is 6,000-8,000 years old. Anyhoo, not to change the subject. THAT'S A DIFFERENT THREAD!!!!

 

[rubberring]

We today live in a sex world

 

[rubberring]

I'm done here. i have a life. bye

Look at me. You have a life with a goat-blowing uncle... and a smaller penis than Michelangelo's David. You need masturbation. No, really.

 

[rubberring]

you mean sleeping with someone as hideous as your x-wife?

Btw, you're not nearly as qualified as roids and me to judge jakell's ex-wife. I mean, we helped him dump the body.

 

[roids1]

Btw, you're not nearly as qualified as roids and me to judge jakell's ex-wife. I mean, we helped him dump the body.

Yes, and not to mention had one quick round with her just before the dump! She was quite the looker, even at room temp. :thumbsup: