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  1. Quote Originally Posted by razorbacks View Post
    Yesir it does! Increased cal intake at same time as dosage w almost immediate results. Oh hell yeah. Time to eat, dose, lift! Healthy liftin & livin fellas!
    Awsome to hear! Make sure to find time to sleep :-)
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  2. Warms the heart to see results like this.
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  3. Hey guys, new to LG products. I am going to pick this up tonight. I have a few bottles of Dermacrine on hand. Super excited. Logging it as well
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    Awsome to hear! Make sure to find time to sleep :-)
    with pretty much all the 1 andro analogues I cant hardly stay awake..
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    Hey guys, new to LG products. I am going to pick this up tonight. I have a few bottles of Dermacrine on hand. Super excited. Logging it as well
    Be sure to link us up.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post

    Be sure to link us up.
    Can't link on my phone but log is up
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  7. Have 2 bottles of 1-andro and 2 bottles of 17-pro on hand and been reading people's experiences and logs and it seems like adding epiandro to the mix will help with any lethargy. (I would save the 17-pro for a different run) This would be a lean gain phase with cals at 200-400 above maintenance. Will be running T3 alongside this at 25mcgs a day and no more for nutrient partitioning.

    Cycle:
    Weeks 1-6.4 - 8ml total 1-Andro
    Weeks 1-8 - 6ml total Epiandro
    Weeks 8-12 - 100mg Formestane + 3g DAA
    Weeks 1-8 - 25mcgs T3

    Would forma be enough for this cycle? Or would I need a serm? If anything, I'll just cut the cycle to four weeks.

  8. Use all 3 for a 6 weeker.... how many epiandro will you get? Form x would be fine but a serm is always nice to have...
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    Use all 3 for a 6 weeker.... how many epiandro will you get? Form x would be fine but a serm is always nice to have...
    Just bought 2 bottles. This will be my first PH run, so I was thinking of just doing EpiAndro and 1-andro.

    Why would a serm be necessary? I thought these are light PHs?

  10. No its not necessary.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by The Engineer View Post
    Just bought 2 bottles. This will be my first PH run, so I was thinking of just doing EpiAndro and 1-andro.

    Why would a serm be necessary? I thought these are light PHs?
    Yah there light, that sounds like a good stack for your first run. You would probably be ok with all 3 and it might be even better for you or you could save the ph-17 for another stack. Your call, you'll be good either way.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yah there light, that sounds like a good stack for your first run. You would probably be ok with all 3 and it might be even better for you or you could save the ph-17 for another stack. Your call, you'll be good either way.
    I'll save the 17-Pro for a cut with Albuterol.

    I understand that Formestane should raise test levels significantly in PCT, but would a low dose serm help? If so what serm have most users turned to?

  13. I don't believe you need a serm unless your high dosing 1 DHEA. the rest of LGs line are true PHs that have about a 2 hr clearance rate. you would likely be fine even with out a PCT and doesn't most of the stuff from LG have 3,5,7 included?
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by xR1pp3Rx View Post
    I don't believe you need a serm unless your high dosing 1 DHEA. the rest of LGs line are true PHs that have about a 2 hr clearance rate. you would likely be fine even with out a PCT and doesn't most of the stuff from LG have 3,5,7 included?
    Don't quote me on this, but I think epiandro and m1d have an AI.

    Can you explain this clearance rate and how it translates to suppression of endogenous test?

    This line had intrigued me greatly simply because they're PHs that only need an otc pct.

    Ironmaglabs have similar 1dhea and epiandro products and their products require a serm.

  15. Dosage and duration play a role in suppression. Serms are cheap and effective
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  16. what im saying is that most these second and third, fourth step PHs have such short half lives that they effect the target hormone literally like 90 mins to an Hr.
    any how 1 DHEA is the stand out. and if you go above 300 mgs per day you better prepare for all the regular sides and shut down.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by xR1pp3Rx View Post
    what im saying is that most these second and third, fourth step PHs have such short half lives that they effect the target hormone literally like 90 mins to an Hr.
    any how 1 DHEA is the stand out. and if you go above 300 mgs per day you better prepare for all the regular sides and shut down.
    Dosing on the bottle is 3 per day which = 8 ml = 53.3mg according to nutraplanet. Because of the liquid delivery, how much does this equal to in pill form?

  18. well lets pretend for a min.. that if you ingest 53.5 mgs orally you would be lucky for a quarter of that to make it past the liver.
    "IF" these products give you lets say 10-20% better absorbtion through the sublingal route, then youd still be only getting 20mgs if your lucky. so using these arbitrary numbers, if you dosed 8 time per day you would be well below 300 mgs.
    at 300 mgs ingested orally there is signifigant liver damage and shut down, yet nothing like a methylated compound. none the less just be careful, and if your ultimately concerned get some blood work done pre and post
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by The Engineer View Post
    I'll save the 17-Pro for a cut with Albuterol.

    I understand that Formestane should raise test levels significantly in PCT, but would a low dose serm help? If so what serm have most users turned to?
    It just may not be necessary as you may be hardly shut down at all on this run. Have it on hand and play it by ear by all means but you should be fine.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post

    It just may not be necessary as you may be hardly shut down at all on this run. Have it on hand and play it by ear by all means but you should be fine.
    Yeah I don't feel shut down at all, but still running a light PCT.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    Yeah I don't feel shut down at all, but still running a light PCT.
    As you should, my boys are very full and my libido is very strong on this shyte. I know this not a full indication but it's a good sign. Yes bloodwork would be best, of course it would. It's not easy to get here and expensive as you'd have to get it done privately.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    As you should, my boys are very full and my libido is very strong on this shyte. I know this not a full indication but it's a good sign. Yes bloodwork would be best, of course it would. It's not easy to get here and expensive as you'd have to get it done privately.
    do it online my friend, super easy and pretty affordable really
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by xR1pp3Rx View Post
    do it online my friend, super easy and pretty affordable really
    Yah ? message me with the details I heard of this but didn't know it had become so efficient
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  24. ive been using ZRT labs the last couple times and they sent me these cool finger prickers to get blood drops for testing.. some of the others have you go in to a clinic to get blood drawn.
    most guys will get a female hormone panel done as it will have test and estro and its like 59 bucks. heres a link to another good place..
    http://www.privatemdlabs.com/index.php
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by xR1pp3Rx View Post
    ive been using ZRT labs the last couple times and they sent me these cool finger prickers to get blood drops for testing.. some of the others have you go in to a clinic to get blood drawn.
    most guys will get a female hormone panel done as it will have test and estro and its like 59 bucks. heres a link to another good place..
    http://www.privatemdlabs.com/index.php
    I think that was the same testing that Primordial Performance had (I may be wrong). I used it once and it said my test was at 185 (at age 21) then I got scared and had real blood work done and it was at 887.
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  26. dunno. ive always had very accurate tests that were very similar to what I had experienced in the past having the dr do it. there are a myriad of reasons that could cause that kind of test including a ****ty diet and a hard night of drinking. just saying its a viable option.. and like I said that link offers local office visits in most areas to have the blood drawn (included in the cost), and at that point there is absolutely no difference between this, and "real" blood work.
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  27. Any problems using the 1 andro with dermacrine? Should compliment well?

  28. Quote Originally Posted by LuckyLuke777 View Post
    Any problems using the 1 andro with dermacrine? Should compliment well?
    Yah should be an excellent fit actually.
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  29. As a first time also.. I was thinking.

    1 bottles of 1-andro + 1 bottle epiandro = 1 cycle of 6-8 weeks
    1 bottle formXT + 1 bottle massFX = PCT of 6-8 weeks

    I'm just looking to recomp a little. Add some mass / any strength and lean out more.

    Would this be advise able? I'm unsure if all that is needed?

    Thanks

  30. That is a different cycle EPI is for hardening and would not be my choice for running with 1-andro I would go with M1D save EPI for cutting as you will only get the full benefit of the hardening when you are ripped.
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