Starting Trifecta Stack! Any advice welcome!

[Estevato58]

What's up? I ordered the trifecta last week, it should be in by tomorrow, I hope. I've read alot if good things about it here and on a few other boards; bad things too, but I take everything with a grain of salt either way. Somethings work for some people and not for others. Either way, I'm excited to give this product a go, I'm not expecting ridiculous gains or anything. Quick run down on my stats:


25 yrs old, started lifting on 6th grade football, stopped for a while after high school, started again 3yrs ago
215~220lbs, depending on the scale, bf%??? Prolly between 17-19%
2,500kcal/day (+\-) <200g protein, low carbs, low fat
Lifting 4 to 5 times a week, sometimes 6 if I have time, program changes every 3-4 weeks
Each workout ends w 30-45min cardio, sometimes steady state, mostly interval (2min sprint/2min walk)

I've been tryin to cut bf% this semester. Over winter break I want to add 2-3lbs of lean mass. Hopefully I look leaner at the end and not bloated, lol. There's more I want to post, but I'm using my phone to write this and it's starting to annoy me, lol.

Any advice or suggestions you have are welcome!

[MrDead]

If it's the liquid version, make sure you take some tape and mark where the measurements are... The numbers wear off of the syringes...

[BigMikeC]

Looking forward to it! Got some "before" pics so we can compare to the "afters"?

[Estevato58]

I'll take some the day before I start, then take a few every 2 wks or so. I started takin creatine too, first time for that as well. I read some other ppls logs, I'm hyped! Lookin forward to some hardcore training/dieting!! I'll post when I start, I got finals next week so I don't wanna start till after finals...

[Blergs]

other than adding an extra bottle of m1d to it and running it a bit higher or longe rI would not change anything. GOOD LUCK BRO! Look forward to seeing this one out!

[Estevato58]

Hmm, that sounds interesting. Can you elaborate more on the extra m1d? I just got my stuff today, I'm tempted to start Sunday, but I got some end of semester partying to do. For the past 16wks I've only let myself drink a six pack every Friday night. Minus last week, I was in a weekend class all day so no beer. Once I start though, I don't wanna drink at all till I'm done w pct, then keep it at six beers on Friday night, lol.

So, as of right now, when I start this cycle I'm also going to be a week into a creatine cycle along with:

(all of these are isotonic)
OPC-3
Multivitamin
B-complex
An extra shot of B12
Calcium
Joint support formula
Ultraprime HGH secretagouge (pm only)

Syntha-6 maybe 2-3 shakes a day. And for the sake of simplicity, I only eat chicken, milk and eggs at my main meals. Right now I'm at 8oz ck for lunch and dinner, but I think I might either bump it up to 12oz ea, or just add another 8oz ck meal at some point in the day. For breakfast and post workout I slam a shake made w milk. Snacks vary by time and what's available, sometimes it's trail mix or sunflower seeds, fruit, or a protein shake.
I drink at least 2 gallons of water a say, including what I drink in my workouts.
Currently this has worked pretty well for me, I was 220+ when the semester started, looked really bloated, then I upped cardio, dropped some carbs, added more lean meats, and ive maintained ~215ish for quite some time. (The scale at the gym says 219-220, home says 215-216...)
I'll take the before pics sometime next week.

[BigMikeC]

I see no need to add an extra m1d. Could add some other supplements like Epic preworkout or a hgh booster like Igh1.

[Blergs]

I just found I like it ran a bit longer or higher myself, no need for it but you asked for any rec's and thats only one id say. Not needed, just something I liked to do.

[Estevato58]

Lol, koo. Thanks bro. I considered it, but then I thought I'd like to see what the stand alone stack can do. But that does sound worth trying if I decide to run the stack a second time around.

[Estevato58]

@blergs: I did consider that, but since this is my first cycle, I think I'll wait to see how my body reacts to everything. Thanks for the tip though.

An update (for whoever's interested in following this thread, lol)

I got the stuff last Friday, it's been really tempting to just start, but I took one final today, got two on Thursday, so I need to be focused for those, lol. Thursday after my tests and Friday after work I'll have plenty of time to plan out the diet I'm gonna follow (not too hard, it's mostly chicken anyway) then I'll start on Sunday. I'll try to post "before" pics on Saturday or Sunday.

[stubbs481]

@blergs: I did consider that, but since this is my first cycle, I think I'll wait to see how my body reacts to everything. Thanks for the tip though.

An update (for whoever's interested in following this thread, lol)

I got the stuff last Friday, it's been really tempting to just start, but I took one final today, got two on Thursday, so I need to be focused for those, lol. Thursday after my tests and Friday after work I'll have plenty of time to plan out the diet I'm gonna follow (not too hard, it's mostly chicken anyway) then I'll start on Sunday. I'll try to post "before" pics on Saturday or Sunday.

In bro looking on running this also

[BigMikeC]

You start yet bro??

[Estevato58]

No, I'm starting on Sunday. I'll be done with school for this semester, and I'll be able to focus on my routine more because I'll have more free time after work.

[Estevato58]

Well, I took my first dose this morning. MMv3 has a funky taste to it, lol. I only took one dose of that, plus the 2 M1D's w breakfast. I'm gonna take another dose of MMv3 here in about an hour, then at around 3 I plan on hitting the gym, so I'll take the other two. I weighed in at 218.7 this morning, I'll probably be back to 215 by Wednesday. This is gonna be fun! I tried to upload a front pic, I'll try to upload more later...

[xR1pp3Rx]

your only taking 4 M1d pills per day?? or four doses of liquid?

[Estevato58]

The box says 4 pills of m1d and 4 doses mmv3 for the first week, 5 pills of m1d starting the 2nd week.

[xR1pp3Rx]

ok so this is the older version of the stack.. i was confused.. my bad

[Estevato58]

Yea, probably. The MMv3 is liquid though, I dunno if that accounts for anything.

Okay, so I'm finally done with all the stuff I had to do today, so I'll give a quick rundown on today's workout and my thoughts so far.

Leg day, my favorite!

I started out w RDLs 2 warm up sets, one w the bar, one @ 135 x 12 reps, then jumped to 185 x 12, 205 x 12, 225 x 12, 255 x 10, 275 x 4, and back to 135 x 8. That would be typical, but I told myself that I'm takin these supps, push harder, and went up to 275. I've never done that much on RDLs.
Then I went to seated leg curls, 4 sets of 12 @100, then a drop set of 26 from 100, to 80, to 40. (10, 10, 6). That was about average, except the drop set. Again, I told myself to push it to the limit. There was no lying leg curl machine do I did the glutes isolator 3 sets of 12 @ 90lbs for each leg. (I was at a different gym, not my usual place).
Moving on to leg raises, I did 2 sets of 12 @ 100lbs, but it felt too light, so I jumped to 150lbs for 2 sets of 10.
Then I did squats. I like deep squats, I break parallel. I see alot op ppl put on 135-225 and just barely squat, not even close to parallel. It drives me nuts!! I saw it today, I wanted to go laugh at that guy in his face, but I was busy so... It went 135 x 15, 205 x 15, 225 x 15 255 x 12, 275 x 8, all of those are higher reps than I normally do! Usually by the time I get to 275 I can only do 4-5 good reps, with good form. I wanna rep 315 on that last set, so i plan on working real hard while I'm on this stuff.
I finished off w leg press/ calf raises. Calves first, then the actual press. By this time I was runnin outta steam, so I stayed considerably light w the weight: 4 plates x 12, 6 plates x 12, 8 plates x 10 for the last two sets. (those are total plates, not plates on ea side.) I usually start w 8 plates total and wrk to 12, but... Yea, I went hard, but I wanna go harder!!
My legs felt like jello, but they were also crazy pumped, so I just did the elliptical for 33 min total. Light cardio, tomorrow I'll do HIIT.

After that I came home to grub down on a steak w brown rice, then started to grill my ck for the week.

After dinner I took the other two m1d pills. I burped and could taste em, lol, weird taste! Either way, about 5 min after I started feeling really hungry! What up w that!? Is that normal? I slammed a protein shake and felt a lil better.

Also, I noticed that taking just one syringe of the mmv3 doesn't have too much of an effect, but I took one 30 min before I was gonna leave to the gym, then another one about 15 min later. The drive over there I could feel it. I had that feeling like I was mad as hell for no reason, lol! I'm sure that's normal right?

So if I understand correctly, I recognize the mmv3 effects, but how soon will the m1d effects start to kick in? Two weeks or so? After I took em tonight, I felt pretty good, I was still euphoric from after my workout, I had a belly full of food, but every time I burped I could taste the m1d, lol.

Any suggestions on dosing the mmv3? I think I'll keep 2/4 pre workout, but the other two?

[xR1pp3Rx]

morning first thing and before bed.. and if you can squeeze it in a 5th dose would work good too.. i would give yourself a couple weeks before you really start to feel it.

[Estevato58]

5 doses for each?