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    Natadrol stack , some help lg reps??


    Hey lg.

    Plan on hitting the weights hard with natadrol for a good 4-6 wks. But want to ask a few things first.

    1) i'd like to stack some "testofen" extract with it , im thinking testopro or titanium. Will there be any problem since the testopro boosts endogenous test and natadrol (although natural) is still an androgen and is in nature somewhat suppressive. Ist there conflict with stackin this?????

    2)Whats the best dose to kick in soon for the natadrol?? ive heard 6 vs 8 caps debate. So what's the truth??

    3)Any benefit with taking any natadrol caps preworkout???
    4) Would natadrol be otherwise stackable with something like androhard??? got some left over, enough for 4 wks

    PCT Will be probably formadrol xtreme plus t911 or should i be more aggressive????


    Thanks in advance



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    Originally Posted by shinivan View Post
    Hey lg.

    Plan on hitting the weights hard with natadrol for a good 4-6 wks. But want to ask a few things first.

    1) i'd like to stack some "testofen" extract with it , im thinking testopro or titanium. Will there be any problem since the testopro boosts endogenous test and natadrol (although natural) is still an androgen and is in nature somewhat suppressive. Ist there conflict with stackin this?????

    2)Whats the best dose to kick in soon for the natadrol?? ive heard 6 vs 8 caps debate. So what's the truth??

    3)Any benefit with taking any natadrol caps preworkout???
    4) Would natadrol be otherwise stackable with something like androhard??? got some left over, enough for 4 wks

    PCT Will be probably formadrol xtreme plus t911 or should i be more aggressive????


    Thanks in advance
    1. I stacked Testopro with mine. Others will say use it in PCT instead. I lost 4lbs of fat and gained 4 lbs of LBM stacking the 2.

    2. Truth is both work, 6 or 8 caps. Whats your body weight? I did 6, next time will be 8.

    3. Took mine with meals only, not prework like you would a PH/DS. Maybe something to try to experiment with.

    4. What/who makes Androhard? I can check ingred profile.

    5. PCt with Form and T911 will be a great PCT.

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    Originally Posted by FlexW99 View Post
    1. I stacked Testopro with mine. Others will say use it in PCT instead. I lost 4lbs of fat and gained 4 lbs of LBM stacking the 2.

    2. Truth is both work, 6 or 8 caps. Whats your body weight? I did 6, next time will be 8.

    3. Took mine with meals only, not prework like you would a PH/DS. Maybe something to try to experiment with.

    4. What/who makes Androhard? I can check ingred profile.

    5. PCt with Form and T911 will be a great PCT.

    Thanks for the help. Im sitting at aroun 170sh fairly lean(4 pack abs instead of the usual 6 pack) So i guess 6 is about right.

    Androhard is from pp. I have some left over. I also have some furazadrol by axis labs.

    Is it fine to stack this with nata???? Im looking into a recomp. Furazadrol is a mild ph i think and wonder if the natadrol and furaza will overlap/compete for the same androgen receptors(read something about type 1 type 2 hormones, what would nata be considered type 1 or 2???

    Thoughts?

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    Originally Posted by FlexW99 View Post
    1. I stacked Testopro with mine. Others will say use it in PCT instead. I lost 4lbs of fat and gained 4 lbs of LBM stacking the 2.

    2. Truth is both work, 6 or 8 caps. Whats your body weight? I did 6, next time will be 8.

    3. Took mine with meals only, not prework like you would a PH/DS. Maybe something to try to experiment with.

    4. What/who makes Androhard? I can check ingred profile.

    5. PCt with Form and T911 will be a great PCT.

    Thanks for the help. Im sitting at aroun 170sh fairly lean(4 pack abs instead of the usual 6 pack) So i guess 6 is about right.

    Androhard is from pp. I have some left over. I also have some furazadrol by axis labs.

    Is it fine to stack this with nata???? Im looking into a recomp. Furazadrol is a mild ph i think and wonder if the natadrol and furaza will overlap/compete for the same androgen receptors(read something about type 1 type 2 hormones, what would nata be considered type 1 or 2???

    Thoughts?

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    Originally Posted by FlexW99 View Post
    1. I stacked Testopro with mine. Others will say use it in PCT instead. I lost 4lbs of fat and gained 4 lbs of LBM stacking the 2.

    2. Truth is both work, 6 or 8 caps. Whats your body weight? I did 6, next time will be 8.

    3. Took mine with meals only, not prework like you would a PH/DS. Maybe something to try to experiment with.

    4. What/who makes Androhard? I can check ingred profile.

    5. PCt with Form and T911 will be a great PCT.

    Thanks for the help. Im sitting at aroun 170sh fairly lean(4 pack abs instead of the usual 6 pack) So i guess 6 is about right.

    Androhard is from pp. I have some left over. I also have some furazadrol by axis labs.

    Is it fine to stack this with nata???? Im looking into a recomp. Furazadrol is a mild ph i think and wonder if the natadrol and furaza will overlap/compete for the same androgen receptors(read something about type 1 type 2 hormones, what would nata be considered type 1 or 2???

    Thoughts?

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    Originally Posted by shinivan View Post
    Thanks for the help. Im sitting at aroun 170sh fairly lean(4 pack abs instead of the usual 6 pack) So i guess 6 is about right.

    Androhard is from pp. I have some left over. I also have some furazadrol by axis labs.

    Is it fine to stack this with nata???? Im looking into a recomp. Furazadrol is a mild ph i think and wonder if the natadrol and furaza will overlap/compete for the same androgen receptors(read something about type 1 type 2 hormones, what would nata be considered type 1 or 2???

    Thoughts?
    I would run Natadrol without the PHs, they don't play well together in my opinion. It would be like running a naty test booster while on cycle, not my style. Do Natadrol, PCT, then the PHs or do them first, PCT then Natadrol. And make sure there is a break in between.
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

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    Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    I would run Natadrol without the PHs, they don't play well together in my opinion. It would be like running a naty test booster while on cycle, not my style. Do Natadrol, PCT, then the PHs or do them first, PCT then Natadrol. And make sure there is a break in between.
    Good to know. I was under the idea that natadrol was suppressive in itself not that it raises endogenous test but from what you say seems i was wrong.

    Is just the way nata is marketed made me think of it as a ph but made up of natural androgens. So is it a test booster???

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    Natadrol is a natural supplement, but has the possibility to shut you down due to the natty androgen.. its marketed as a natty product, because it is, and can give you PH gains/results.. this product is a PH replacement

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    Originally Posted by Liftergym33 View Post
    Natadrol is a natural supplement, but has the possibility to shut you down due to the natty androgen.. its marketed as a natty product, because it is, and can give you PH gains/results.. this product is a PH replacement
    Will testopro be a good stacker with natadrol??? or will the testopro negate the benefits of the nata? Will both be competing for androgen receptors or will there be a synergy betweent them???

    Anyone had any experience stacking this vs solo run??

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    Originally Posted by shinivan View Post
    Will testopro be a good stacker with natadrol??? or will the testopro negate the benefits of the nata? Will both be competing for androgen receptors or will there be a synergy betweent them???

    Anyone had any experience stacking this vs solo run??
    Personally, I would suggest trying out natadrol standalone to properly judge its effects.

    Stacking testopro may improve overall results, but at the same time there may be conflicting ingrediants which makes natadrol not as good as it could be. Dunno for sure, I dont think anybody has a straight answer to that but its a possibility.
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    Ive done Testopro with Natadrol and had great results. No conflics that I can remember and felt great the whole time. Recovery was off the chain. I would do it again.

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    I ran t-911 with mine and don't see why I wouldn't do it again, actually just got me some Natadrol and T-911 to do just that. Go for it and make sure to run it at 6 caps to start then ramp up to 8 as you see how you respond to it. IF you have enough, go straight to 8 though it may not be totally necessary right off the bat.
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

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    Originally Posted by FlexW99 View Post
    Ive done Testopro with Natadrol and had great results. No conflics that I can remember and felt great the whole time. Recovery was off the chain. I would do it again.
    Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    I ran t-911 with mine and don't see why I wouldn't do it again, actually just got me some Natadrol and T-911 to do just that. Go for it and make sure to run it at 6 caps to start then ramp up to 8 as you see how you respond to it. IF you have enough, go straight to 8 though it may not be totally necessary right off the bat.
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    Originally Posted by FlexW99 View Post
    Ive done Testopro with Natadrol and had great results. No conflics that I can remember and felt great the whole time. Recovery was off the chain. I would do it again.
    ...and I ran solo, at 8 a day, 189lbs, had great strength increases BUT DID get shut down, if doing again I would stack with testopro and probably run that into pct if poss.. My pct was t911 and form xtreme, recovered no issues at all

    Had great run and strength increases , shutdown was my only downer

    And

    I agree with fin, I wouldn't stack with another PH... I'd wait at least until after PCT

    Just my 3 cents

    Good luck bro!!

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    ... I forget I think I went through 4 bottles of Nata and 3 bottles of forma, feel free to check the log in my signature, I think it was around July this year

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    Originally Posted by gwls View Post
    ...and I ran solo, at 8 a day, 189lbs, had great strength increases BUT DID get shut down, if doing again I would stack with testopro and probably run that into pct if poss.. My pct was t911 and form xtreme, recovered no issues at all

    Had great run and strength increases , shutdown was my only downer

    And

    I agree with fin, I wouldn't stack with another PH... I'd wait at least until after PCT

    Just my 3 cents

    Good luck bro!!
    what signs of shut down did you see?

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    Originally Posted by Liftergym33 View Post
    what signs of shut down did you see?
    My nuts were the size of peas towards the end, but I was dosing heavy and for about 8 weeks straight and libido was definitely down, but I didn't panic since I knew you guys made uber products, I was getting what I wanted from the cycle and the pct u guys recommended was tried and tested and I recovered really quickly

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    Originally Posted by gwls View Post
    My nuts were the size of peas towards the end, but I was dosing heavy and for about 8 weeks straight and libido was definitely down, but I didn't panic since I knew you guys made uber products, I was getting what I wanted from the cycle and the pct u guys recommended was tried and tested and I recovered really quickly
    Really suprised to hear that although that is a long run with high dose so maybe not so much.

    Glad to hear the stuff worked out for ya.

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    Originally Posted by FlexW99 View Post
    Really suprised to hear that although that is a long run with high dose so maybe not so much.

    Glad to hear the stuff worked out for ya.
    It was a great run, and everyone reacts differently, especially on high doses which obviously was a personal choice. Great product which I would definitely run again!!

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    I think there shouldn't be any problems when running it for shorter time and with lower dose.. It's week five of my Natadrol cycle at 6 caps/day and I've noticed no ball shrinkage so far.. How well ball shrinkage correlates with shutdown? I mean, is it possible that test production is shut down when there is no testicular atrophy?

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