MMv2 + M1-D with Hdrol later... HERE WE GO!!!
- 03-27-2009, 02:20 PM
MMv2 + M1-D with Hdrol later... HERE WE GO!!!
So I took the plunge... and here we go... LG dont let me down...
Plan on running 6-8 weeks
M1-D: probably 6 caps/day through out... not sure if I should divide 2 or 3 doses?
MMv2: starting at 4 caps/day then going to 5 and possibly 6
The Hdrol might be added after week 2 or 3 depending on how I feel... might go 50/50/50/75 or 50/50/75/75/75 or 50/50/75/75/75/75 depends if I want to run it 4 or 6 weeks.
Normal rundown on diet...
600am wake up: 20g whey then shower
645 breakfast: 4 egg whites with 3-4 whole eggs, 4 slices whole wheat toast
930-1000 snack: muscle milk shake or chicken breast with 1/2 to 1 cup oats (varies on how busy work is)
1230 lunch: 1/3-1/2lbs 96% lean meat or chicken breast, med-lrg sweet potato (few almonds if chicken is eaten)
415ish snack: more meat or chicken with 1 cup oats
after workout: 40g whey and 70g Vitargo
dinner: fish, chicken or meat usually around 1/3 to 1/2 lbs and med-lrg sweet potato or 1cup oats
optional bedtime meal: 3-4 eggs whites with 2-3 whole eggs
***often whole wheat bread is subbed when in a time crunch... trying to get better carbs***
Probably weighing somewhere around 180-183lbs and about 8-9%bf (can see all my abs when i flex them and top are visuable without flexing)
Training: rep range usually around 12-8... like using drops on the last set to totally burn out, finds this gives me the best DOMS and growth. Sometimes go heavier like 4-6 reps but usually will do this on the last set and then drop to get 10-12 then drop again for another 10-12.
day 1. quads, calves
day 2. shoulders
day 3. arms
day 4. hams, calves
day 5. chest, light bis
day 6. back, light tris
day 7. OFF!!!!
often will through in some extra rest days when I feel overtrained or not recovered
- 03-27-2009, 03:49 PM
I would run the MMv2 and M1D for 4 weeks, 6 to 8 at the absolute longest then takes a few months off (after pct) before using H drol.
No need to over do it with PH's
- 03-27-2009, 05:42 PM
03-27-2009, 07:51 PM
how should i break up the dosing...
2x day or 3x day?
03-27-2009, 10:37 PM
03-28-2009, 10:35 AM
Post Cycle Support 4/4/4/4/0/0/0
Diesel Test Hardcore 0/0/0/4/4/4/4
***will adjust above if I run the cycle longer than 6wks***
Thought about Lean FX but not sure, used anti cort in past but not sure if its needed.
Also thought about cutting out the Formadrol or the PCS (would switch the Formadrol dosing to 4/4/4/4/0/0/0) and adding Diesel Test 2010 0/0/0/4/4/3/3... I have heard such good things about Get Diesels products and wanted to try them.
might be over kill too... but adding in Hdrol wanna have everything covered... also have SERM on hand but dont use it unless I need it. Last time used Hdrol had not feeling of being shutdown and PCT was a breeze.
03-28-2009, 10:50 AM
When is the normal "kick in" time for this combo? 1wk? 1.5wk?
lciaccio, when did you really notice a difference?
Right now running it:
M1-D: 3caps with breakfast... 3caps 10-12 hours later with fats
MMv2: 2 caps breakfast.... 2 caps 10-12 hours later with fats
When I bump the MMv2 to 5 caps then 6, how should I add them in?
Split the doasge in 3x/day???
Or go 3 MMv2 with breakfast at 5/day then bump to 3 caps with second dose when I go to 6/day?
Or add them preworkout?
03-28-2009, 11:03 AM
Had a sick backwork out yesterday... feeling it this am...
*Bent BB row (not those slightly bent over type but like chest parallel to floor... deep strech at bttm)
95x15, 135x12, 185x8-->150x8-->135x12
*DB rows kai green style (going to back hip with a squeeze and hold, if you have seen the MD video u know what i mean)
60x12, 70x10, 80x10-->65x12
*Hammer high pulldown with reverse grip
90(a side)x 15, 135x10, 145x10-->115x12-->90x10
*D handles close grip lat pulldown
80x15, 110x10, 120x8-->100x8-->80x12
*neutral grip wide seated cable pulls w/ behind neck pulldowns wide grip
80x15 w/ 120/15, 90x12-->70x12 w/ 130x10-->100x12
20, 25x15, 25x15, 25x15-->till your lower back screams and burns
03-28-2009, 12:22 PM
definitely add in mmv2 at preworkout
03-28-2009, 07:17 PM
03-28-2009, 07:18 PM
03-29-2009, 09:31 PM
thanks Craigmatthew cant wait til it kicks in and then when I start the Hdrol WATCH OUT!
03-30-2009, 12:09 AM
03-30-2009, 09:29 AM
Starting day 4 here, can say notice anything different, maybe some increase in muscle density when flexing (increase in glycogen store possibly?) and possible better mind muscle connection put probably just all in my head...
03-30-2009, 04:01 PM
03-31-2009, 08:57 PM
added one MMv2 before arms tonight... very very nice... can start to feel it kicking in... definately little acne, but my skin hates me anyway, sensitive but means its working so dont mind it. Definately good mind muscle contraction doing biceps and tris can really squeeze and the muscle seems to pump up very nice and get really solid and dense... just some feed back, pretty nice so far.
04-01-2009, 04:54 PM
Good work man, enjoy the mmv2 rage pre workout
04-01-2009, 07:29 PM
04-01-2009, 07:40 PM
I would...its supposed to help with absorption on non methyl items
04-01-2009, 09:18 PM
04-01-2009, 10:59 PM
04-03-2009, 11:41 AM
just little update.... Noticed that I have dropped some subcu water, also always sipping on or thirsty for water... Bttm part of abs more visible when flexing... Solid workouts with super pumps esp with dropsets... Scale hasn't changed but like said looks like less water so maybe added a little lean lbs
04-03-2009, 12:20 PM
yea what i love the dry leaning factor is mmv2. great sutff
04-05-2009, 12:08 PM
kicking off 5 wks of hdrol added in...
lciaccio how u doing?
04-05-2009, 10:00 PM
everything is going well... just started the Hdrol
seem to be stronger in workouts... nice pumps... weight might be up 2-3lbs
cant wait either for the Hdrol to kick in either... the combo should be nice
one thing I notice is its hard to leave the gym, feel like I should keep going, lots of energy, DOMS have decreased also
04-06-2009, 07:46 AM
The DOMS decrease is so damn good!
04-06-2009, 10:24 AM
idk, myabe its me bust DOMS is increasing, at least the intensity of it is, the length has been shortened. im sore as a bitch ie. moving more weight, tears more muscle, but im recovering quicker
04-06-2009, 02:30 PM
yeah that's what I meant that they dont last nearly as long with major muscle groups and very minimal with smaller ones... Sucks because I have to force myself to leave... Feel like u always keep going and want to do more sets.
04-06-2009, 02:31 PM
Going to be crazy in about 1.5wk!!!! Once everything is kicking.
04-06-2009, 04:21 PM
agreed! im already feeling strength increases, but I cant wait until there in full effect. keep workin hard man!
04-08-2009, 01:54 PM
massive pumped arm workout yesterday been on hdrol 50mg since sun... Also running 6 m1d with 6mmv2
04-08-2009, 08:35 PM
I have some lethargy too not bad but definately there
04-09-2009, 08:37 PM
Good news boys... havent stepped on the scale in 3 days, maybe 4 but after workout tonight just wanted to see... and BAMMM!!! 187!!! usually run 180-182. Even recheck and 187 again... made sure scale zeroed and it did!!! WOW. This is with really no change in diet and only been on Hdrol since Sun. And been almost 2 wks on the M1D and MMv2 combo.
04-09-2009, 08:58 PM
04-10-2009, 01:12 AM
nice joB! are you body comping too? if you can let me know if your bf has changed. I think Im down by about 1%. too early to tell really. either way im up 4-5 lean lb on a cut. get back to me!
04-10-2009, 10:06 AM
04-11-2009, 03:34 AM
04-11-2009, 10:49 AM
will work on some pics...
another sick back workout yesterday, massive endurance can really tear it up but just want to keep going and forced myself to leave... do to all this energy warmed up the biceps w/ some DB curls and got on preacher curl machine and did FST-7 set to pump up the arms, just cause of all the energy, LOL!... Tom makes a wk on hdrol @ 50mg. No more lethargy when taking Hdrol with meal
04-13-2009, 01:48 PM
Did shoulders yesterday... Definately stronger when doing seated db press... Working sets 65x12 70x12 75x11 80x7... Able to get a few more reps than normal definately feel more in control of the weight too and get a good squeeze and pump... Maybe slightly more vasc... Hard to tell bc I am already a veiny guy... Starting to see more prominant vein across top part of my pec to my shoulder... Maybe slight decrease in mid section. Weight still kicking aroung 185-187 so up a few lbs. Bumped hdrol to 75mg and going to ride the rest of the 4 wks at this dose.
04-15-2009, 09:07 AM
ohhweee I was playing with the girlfriend last night and the back pumps were nasty lol. Have you experienced any sides yet? I did do back earlier that day, So i know my back was tight...
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