NEW TEST SUPPLEMENT
- 03-02-2011, 12:33 AM
NEW TEST SUPPLEMENT
I NEED SOME FEEDBACK WHAT DO THINK ABOUT THIS TEST BOOSTER OR WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE ADDED OR TAKEN AWAY FROM THIS TEST BOOSTER?
26-O-beta-D-Glycopyranosyl-22-hydroxyfurost-5-ene-3beta,26-diol-3-O-beta-diglucorhamnoside- 400 mg
5-androsten-3β-ol-17-one - 100mg
LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK
- 03-02-2011, 12:41 AM
- 03-02-2011, 12:44 AM
Take out everything thats from tribulus, that stuff is worthless. Also if im not mistaken, the 5-androsten-3β-ol-17-one is epiandrosterone. Why would you include a hormone in a product meant to increase natural testosterone levels?
After that youre just left with mucuna, DIM, and DHB. The DIM and mucuna are good ingredients, but theyre worthless in the amounts you mentioned, in my experience.
Time for a complete product overhaul.
03-02-2011, 01:08 AM
thats why we put it out there thanks man any suggestions on replacement ingredients that you prefer
03-02-2011, 01:13 AM
sorry man not 5-androsten-3β-ol-17-one its 5-dhea i had it on previous post forgot to change it .
03-02-2011, 02:18 AM
Alternatives to the aforementioned ingredients could be D-aspartic-acid paired with trimethylglycine, 7-keto DHEA, 7-OH, and the metabolie of 7-keto, Androst-3,5-diene-7,17-dione. You could include 5000iu of vitamin d3 as well.
There are a few studies that show a direct correlation of d3 to testosterone in humans, and another study that required at least 97% of subjects to take 9,600iu of d3 daily to achieve 40ng/ml, so a high dose is desirable.
03-02-2011, 02:30 AM
Ive also seen a lot mentioned about DAA spiking prolactin, and i believe even a user on this board posted blood work confirming the increase. A supplement with DAA and a form of estrogen control(Androst-3,5-diene-7,17-dione) as well as ingredients to control prolactin (p5p and mucuna) could be pretty interesting. Ive seen some DAA/Anti aromatase "all-in-one" supplements, but none to my knowledge also targeted prolactin. Of course i could be wrong, but it sounds like a cool stack anyway.
03-02-2011, 11:21 AM
Okay nice man great info i will def look into that.
03-02-2011, 01:15 PM
Id take out the DIM, also you could keep the mucuna in there and add in the DAA..
Ive always thought a compound like whats in Free Test or Erase, compined with DAA, a prolactin controller, and a 25r diol type compound would be a pretty good product.
03-02-2011, 02:58 PM
drop the Epiandrosterone and add one of this or maybe two
Mucuna Pruriens (standarized 95% L-Dopa) - with standarization the dose is dependent.
Chlorophytum Borivilianum (Saponins 40-50%) - dose dependant
Shilajit (Moomiyo) 20-75% Fulvic Acid - dose dependant
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03-02-2011, 03:00 PM
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03-02-2011, 05:46 PM
03-02-2011, 05:53 PM
Sounds good what would you think about that being in a form of mixable powder. It may be tough to get the right amount of everything in capsules without taking a ton of pills.
03-02-2011, 05:57 PM
Love hearing about new products. Good luck to this and kill that **** to all.
03-02-2011, 06:01 PM
Thanks for your input Im wanting to get as much feedback as possible,thats how great products come to life
03-02-2011, 06:08 PM
03-02-2011, 06:09 PM
03-02-2011, 07:23 PM
If you could point me to a study that demonstrated the means of action for TT on human libido or erectile dysfunction, or demonstrates it at all, i'd appreciate it. The only ones i can find are rodent data, which im sure thousands of supplement users, and a few studies, will agree, dont exactly live up to the test in a human trial.
03-02-2011, 07:51 PM
03-02-2011, 07:56 PM
03-02-2011, 07:59 PM
03-02-2011, 08:04 PM
03-02-2011, 08:16 PM
03-02-2011, 08:22 PM
Anecdotal evidence doesnt really mean much, and from what ive gathered, tribulus standardized to a high content of protodioscin MAY offer little more than enhanced libido and ED.
03-02-2011, 08:40 PM
1. Study must show man was shut down do to steroids
2. study must show that "after" the use of the drug his test levels stayed normal!!!!!!!
not during the use of but after the use of test levels were back to normal and stays normal months after. OK even a study showing they were normal a week after??? just one???
got any studies showing the above ^^^^^^^^^^^^
03-02-2011, 08:44 PM
03-02-2011, 08:45 PM
hey please get back to me in 20 years when you got what I asked for. Send me a pm I will be waiting.
03-02-2011, 08:46 PM
03-02-2011, 08:50 PM
Unfortunately the man continued the use of testosterone cypionate after his hormones had normalized from clomid, but i think thats a start at the use of clomid for steroid induced hypogonadism.
03-02-2011, 08:54 PM
03-02-2011, 08:56 PM
03-02-2011, 09:03 PM
Your not buying from me but I bet my life your buying from some ones thats putting money in my pockets. so tough **** on that one my man... My eggs are spread all over lmao.... YouTube - Rihanna - Hard ft. Jeezy
Now getting back to it... No studies to date show both of what I have asked you to show. That is not being smug its asking for you to put up or stfu up. Pretty basic and simple of you ask me..
03-02-2011, 09:06 PM
03-02-2011, 09:08 PM
03-02-2011, 09:08 PM
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03-02-2011, 09:12 PM
soon as I see some bull, or you point out some bull, I can cut it out. Till then not sure wtf you are talking about. All for doing what admin wants though... always have been
03-02-2011, 09:14 PM
Looking forward to the product(s) and welcome to Anabolic Minds.
03-02-2011, 09:15 PM
I'll discontinue this discussion, not because i think you're right(who would?), but because its off topic and disrespectful to the new board sponsor Lecheek Nutrition.
Sorry, Lecheek, i was only trying to insight a thoughtful debate, not detract from the point.
Anyways, who else has suggestions for a new test booster for Lecheek?
03-02-2011, 09:15 PM
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