HGH for rotator cuff injury
- 03-12-2008, 08:55 PM
HGH for rotator cuff injury
Long story short I may have a tear in my rotator cuff. Had surgery to grind down a bone spur in my clavicle in Dec., not sure if thats relevent or not. I used to weigh about 180 and was doing sets of 10 with 120LB DB Flats. I'm now 168 and can't do more than a few sets of push-ups. Haven't done any chest or shoulder work in quite sometime. I'm wondering if HGH and like could get me back to 100%. Used to fight MMA but have had to turn down 2 fights now because of this. Just need to get back on track as fast as possible.
So bottom line, can HGH heal my rotator cuff? If so how much for how long? Not looking to do anything but heal my shoulder. I read the sticky which provided some good info. Just need some opinions on this.
- 03-12-2008, 11:07 PM
I broke my arm and had surgery with plates and screws. Before surgery I was doing like you on DB presses and now like you can barely do a pushup with out major pain in my shoulder!
I would like to know about this as well.
I am going to a Dr. my wifes trainer said would prescribe me decca!! HOPE!!!
- 03-13-2008, 07:18 PM
03-14-2008, 10:12 PM
I'd try IGF-1. Maybe run it 40 mcg E3D, or if you really need to heal, do a 4 week cycle of like 60-80mcg ED.
03-15-2008, 01:14 PM
03-31-2008, 01:42 PM
03-31-2008, 07:41 PM
04-01-2008, 01:36 AM
yes this sounds a good plan and I think you should certainly see some improvement.not sure if it will ever be 100% though but wish you the best of luck and have fingers crossed for you.
i also think the addition of HGH(on top of the igf-1) would add something extra with regards to strengthening the tendons and cartilage as afaik there are no IGF-1 receptors there.
this is what I intend to do post pec repair surgery in June.
04-01-2008, 01:40 AM
04-01-2008, 01:42 AM
04-01-2008, 02:02 AM
04-01-2008, 07:17 AM
04-01-2008, 10:26 PM
Will do guys. Not as interested in the muscle and fat loss as I am the potential healing properties. Sounds odd but I haven't taken any PH's/AAS in over a year and a half and made my best gains. Maxed my bench at 345, failed at 365, which is what made things worse. 405 dead and 455 squat. Oh and I'll be taking Super Cissus RX as well to see if it helps.
04-01-2008, 10:27 PM
04-02-2008, 03:40 AM
04-02-2008, 08:02 PM
04-02-2008, 08:50 PM
04-02-2008, 09:09 PM
04-02-2008, 09:10 PM
04-02-2008, 09:38 PM
04-04-2008, 09:34 PM
Alright, just got it today. It came with sodium chloride as a sterile dilutant. I haven't read anything yet that even mentions NaCl. Could I use this instead of BA? I have 8cc of BA, it came in a pump bottle. How exactly am I supposed to set this up? I want to be sure I do this right, its a decent amount of money and I want my shoulder to heal as quick as possible. I also have ditilled white vineger and a syringe filter etc. to make AA.
One more thing, when you guys say 'tic', that means each line or each numbered line? Sorry this **** is still new to me.
04-05-2008, 06:36 AM
04-05-2008, 07:48 AM
i had a small tear plus a lot of inflamation in my rotator that bothered me for a long time and really interfered with my workouts. i tried cortizone shots but they didnt fully take care of it. it finally cleared up after using hgh + igf+ doing a lot of rotator rehab exercises. i did a lot of my igf injects around that rotator.
04-05-2008, 08:50 AM
04-05-2008, 04:37 PM
Did my first injections today. 20mcg in each shoulder near the rotator cuff. Have a nice pumped feeling now. Still stings a little bit but nothing major. Did a half ass workout today. SLDL, push-ups, some curls, leg extentions, rows, and some rotator cuff work. We'll see how this goes.
04-05-2008, 07:05 PM
04-05-2008, 10:18 PM
Went to the Dr. for my joint pain and SHE is prescribing me Test and HGH!!! I am stoked!!! She is really forward thinking about Steroids! Also, she said it was now illegal to prescribe Deca!! HMMMM
04-16-2008, 07:30 PM
Update: Shoulder is feeling much better now. Still a ways to go but on the right track. Will be ordering another MG as soon as its in stock again.
05-30-2008, 01:37 AM
Can we get another update, Kurtis?
I was thinking of toning the shots down to 20. Possibly E3D, or possibly on days the shoulders are used, back, shoulder, and chest days. And on top of that, rotating pinning of ant., pos., and lat. nearest to the RC.
I've read some possibly heavy sides from P.A. in the "My Take on IGF-1" thread made by Grunt76. Do you/did you experience these?
05-30-2008, 07:25 PM
05-30-2008, 07:29 PM
05-30-2008, 08:29 PM
There is no direct delivery method that we currently have to allow a direct dose into such places that are beyond the reach of a pin or saturation boundary of the IGF injected. Some relatively close tissues will be exposed to some IGF. Even then, injection is still not the best delivery method for IGF in this respect. We basically rely on the blood vessel system to reach such places. There are methods being developed for optimal peptide delivery in therapeutic circumstances. Platelet derived Growth Factor delivery, Liposomal, etc....
05-30-2008, 08:58 PM
Unfortunately, I have to hold myself back in the gym because of my shoulder and fear of major damage.
Too bad IGF doesn't sit too well in the joints. I'd like to see what it can do for my knees.
Another reason I was thinking minimal dosing because of the spreading. What's to lose but money?
5mcg per shoulder in the morning, 5mcg per shoulder post-wo
12-06-2008, 01:13 AM
12-07-2008, 09:08 AM
Ive been dealing with shoulder joint pain for years however no tear in the rotator cuff..Tendonitis/Bursitis type injury.. Can someone elaborate on exactly where in the shoulder I should inject? Ive got some RH IGF-1.
02-15-2010, 04:29 PM
Id like to know where exactly too. Because the pain from a rotator cuff injury is in a different spot then the injury due to the location of the nerves and pain reception.
03-30-2010, 08:08 PM
I will be having surgery for a torn tendon to my RC and am interested on the IGF/HGH combo.....
Any updates on the healing?
01-16-2013, 07:47 PM
hey i was reading this and u posted it 5 years ago hopefully your still around. had mri done doc said same thing to me tht i have tendenidis and my clavicle needs to be shaved down. i have pain when i reach my arm straight up in the air then something swells up in there and without antiinflamitories i can't lift my arm 6 inches away from my body. if i leave it alone the pain subsides buty as soon as i go do a chin up its over, did u have yiur clavicle shaved ? did it help?
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