Lozgod's Oratropin Log

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Stats as of today:
241 lbs.
6'0
20% BF

Goal:
Lose BF (goal is to get down to 8% long term, isn't going to happen on one 30 day cycle)
Maintain or add muscle mass

Diet:
2400 calories ED
Meal 1: Pro/Carb
Meal 2: Pro/Fat
Meal 3: Pro/Fat
Meal 4: PWO - Pro/Carb
Meal 5: PPWO - Pro/Carb
Meal 6: Pro/Fat

Supplements:
Oratropin-1 40 mcg's 30 days
Anavar 40mg's 30 days
T3 25mcg's 30 days
K-R-ALA - 200mgs ED
Multi-Vitamin
Herbal Blood Pressure Stack
Herbal Liver Stack
Herbal Prostate Stack
Herbal Kidney Stack

Fitness Plan:
Su-S: Cardio on empty stomach - 30 minutes at 65% max HR
M - Chest
T- Back
W - Arms
Th - Shoulders/Traps
F - Legs/Abs
S - Off
Su - Off
 
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Started today.
Had first meal at 8:30.

I took supplements (except K-R-ALA) and 20mg of Anavar after 1st meal. Took Oratropin at 9:30. Very distinct taste. Lifted at 11:45 until 12:30. Took K-R-ALA and PWO shake of Protein/Dextrose/Glutamine.

Nothing special to report really at this point. I am keeping this journal here, and at Iron For Life and Anabolic Monsterz. If I forget to update this one just bump it so I see I missed it and I will update it.
 
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Nice to see your log, Loz. Is this your first 'var cycle? I love that stuff, especially with Primo.
 
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Nice to see your log, Loz. Is this your first 'var cycle? I love that stuff, especially with Primo.
Yeah, I turned my back on orals awhile back, but everyone seems to love Var. What dose did you use?
 
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I was at 50mg with Primo, can't recall the dosing on the Primo. My bloodwork was nearly perfect post-cycle. The sh*t is expensive for good reason. I am sure you'll love it. Should help you maintain muscle while on the t3.
 
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For the benefit of IBE since I am a tester I decided to drop the anavar. This way I can guage the effectiveness of the Oratropin by itself.
 
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Click on "Thread Tools", and select subscribe to thread.

Anyway, I look forward to the log.
 
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For the benefit of IBE since I am a tester I decided to drop the anavar. This way I can guage the effectiveness of the Oratropin by itself.

Shouldn't you drop the K-ALA? Also, what it in your "kidney stack"? Just looking for ideas.
 
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I just got back from the gym. As far as hypo goes. I am spent. I dropped the anavar to see what the IGF does on it's own. After about 30 minutes of doing back, I had to fight to get another 10 minutes in. I couldn't wait to get done so I could get my PWO drink. That was 80 grams of carbs and I am still tired. I honestly believe it is working. Only thing I am not getting is pumps from it. However it is only the second day.
 
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Can't wait to see the results of this log. By the way your new avatar sucks go back to the other one. :(
 
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I am starting to feel groggy on a regular basis. I am going to change one of the pro/fat meals to a pro/carb meal.
 

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YAY! The old avatar is back!
 
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Changed my pre-workout meal from Pro/fat to pro/carb, and it was a different workout today. I had the energy to go 60 minutes, but when I was done, I was beat. I just had my PPWO meal and added an extra 1/2 cup of rice and I am still beat. I been following JohnnyB's journal on AR and I am very excited to see how I look next week. He is 2 weeks on and says his arms are 1" bigger and his waist is 1" smaller.
 
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I wieghed myself today, down 5lbs from where I originally started, but I have a quater of an inch added to my arms. So that figures out to 2-4lbs of muscle.
I just went back thru his thread & ProV's @ Intense-Training (where he's also been posting comments), and no mention of his waist or anyone's that I could see.

Can you provide a link?

Glad to see so many logs popping up - There's 3 now @ AR.
 

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i go hypo all the time it wouldnt make a huge difference to me....in fact ill welcome the extra carbs
 
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Nothing to report today. Golfers elbow is acting up so I took the day off. Tomorrow is arms, but if it still hurts, I will do legs and then arms on Saturday.
 

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How are you taking the K-R-ALA?

That is probably whats causing the hypo. that stuff greatly intensifies your insulin sensitivity. I was using 3 GlucophaseXR caps pwo. I am now on IGF (inject immediately pwo) & with only 1 GXR cap, I am getting hypo much more than ever before. I had to up my pwo carb drink to about 80g to avoid it.
 
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Workout was pretty intense today. I did arms. I was doing wrist curls and got suoer insane pumps. They literally hurt.

I am also up 4 pounds.
 
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4lbs in 4 days? Wow...hows body comp?

Do you have anything you would like to say to the "nay-sayers"? :D
 
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4lbs in 4 days? Wow...hows body comp?

Do you have anything you would like to say to the "nay-sayers"? :D
Well the nay-sayers aren't worth my time. The ironic thing is my shoulders have some more definition than before. It wasn't something I noticed. A girl said ti to me and then I noticed it. So it seems I gained 4 pounds but leaned out a little bit, and I am eating less calories. Very paradoxial (is that a word?:lol: ).
 

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Excellent. Keep the workouts intense!
 

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Well the nay-sayers aren't worth my time. The ironic thing is my shoulders have some more definition than before. It wasn't something I noticed. A girl said ti to me and then I noticed it. So it seems I gained 4 pounds but leaned out a little bit, and I am eating less calories. Very paradoxial (is that a word?:lol: ).
Thats great.....keep up the good work! 4 pounds of lean muscle!
 

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Hows the hypo been since you switched up your fats and carbs?
 
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Damn, I was hoping the Oratropin wouldn't turn out to be so good so that I wouldn't eventually end up investing all that $$$.
 

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It is way better. I am cutting it down to one pro/fat meal.
So is it safe to assume that if you're sensitive to this type of reaction then it would be prudent to consume carbs with every meal?
 
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So is it safe to assume that if you're sensitive to this type of reaction then it would be prudent to consume carbs with every meal?
Yeah. The only reason I am keeping one pro/fat meal is for the sake of fat soluble vitamins (I take a ton of herbs and vitamins), and also for the EFA's.
 

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Good info man. Keep it coming. I'll be starting a PCT log next friday with 4 weeks ReboundXT and 4 weeks Oratropin. :thumbsup: Should be intresting.
 
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Nothing to report other than I am still up 4 pounds while only consuming 2400 calories a day.
 

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Is it not impossible for you to be up 4 pounds of lean muscle in 4 days on only 2400 calories a day?
 
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ok, been awhile since I posted. Weight hasn't changed. The only thing that is new is I am tired as hell all the time. Today I didn't wake up until 2 o'clock.
 

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ok, been awhile since I posted. Weight hasn't changed. The only thing that is new is I am tired as hell all the time. Today I didn't wake up until 2 o'clock.
Do you feel this is from being hypo? Perhaps more carbs are in order.
 
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Do you feel this is from being hypo? Perhaps more carbs are in order.
I am eating carbs like crazy. I may of worded that wrong. I have trouble waking up. I don't want to get out of bed.
 

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I am eating carbs like crazy. I may of worded that wrong. I have trouble waking up. I don't want to get out of bed.
I've been cheating on carbs, too, and am still leaning out.

But I know what you mean about not waking up. I've been late to work 2 times this week because I hate getting up. My sleep has been very deep. I can't wait for Saturday where I can sleep in. The energy during the day has been fine though.
 

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I've been cheating on carbs, too, and am still leaning out.

But I know what you mean about not waking up. I've been late to work 2 times this week because I hate getting up. My sleep has been very deep. I can't wait for Saturday where I can sleep in. The energy during the day has been fine though.
I could use some better sleep. Looking forward to it.
 

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