any peptides that are non-injectable?

[bossman523]

i think i heard that some you can just put under your tongue. any truth to this. i'm sorry if this is a stupid question, i am completely ignorant of peptides.

 

[jbryand101b]

you don't have to inject whey peptides!

 

[bossman523]

meh

 

[Lukef2000]

i think i heard that some you can just put under your tongue. any truth to this. i'm sorry if this is a stupid question, i am completely ignorant of peptides.

You can get ghrp6 and cjc1295 in transdermal creams that you rub in your forearms.

 

[ilcrba]

Any real results from using creams like this?

 

[Lukef2000]

Any real results from using creams like this?

Don't know haven't used them, been looking into them lately as wifey has pulled hormones from my list of supps

 

[BEASTZ6]

Just jab yourself with a 1/2" slin pin. I don't think you will get much with a rub-on product.

 

[phattony]

Sub q injections are sooo easy and almost painless!!! There is a oral gh releaser that's name I can't recall. Normally in the sarm or reasearch Chem section on a lot of sites. But it is spendy.

 

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Peptide CREAMS?
I didn't think peptides could pass thru the skin...

 

[AnabolicHolic]

Peptide CREAMS?
I didn't think peptides could pass thru the skin...

I was just wondering the other day if the minor "spillage" you get, from the needle/where the needle is affixed to the slin syringe, which ends up on your skin absorbs. I would lick it up if I could but its hard to reach down by my lower abs area

 

[supermanjow]

i think i heard that some you can just put under your tongue. any truth to this. i'm sorry if this is a stupid question, i am completely ignorant of peptides.

Look up MK-677. It's the only oral secretagogue available right now. It works with your body's natural GH pulses too. Basically, your body releases excess GH with each pulse. Otherwise, sub-q injectables are the only way that's economically feasible.

 

[phattony]

Peptide CREAMS?
I didn't think peptides could pass thru the skin...

It depends on the size and weight of the peptide... Short peptides normally can be delivered transdermally with the right carrier.

 

[phattony]

Look up MK-677. It's the only oral secretagogue available right now. It works with your body's natural GH pulses too.

Thank you sir that's the diddy I was speaking of.

 

[harbonah]

If you need to stick with oral only Pramipexole might be worth your time to look into.

 

[Lukef2000]

If you need to stick with oral only Pramipexole might be worth your time to look into.

Just be sure to start off at a low dose and wok your way up. Puking prami is not very nice.

 

[harbonah]

Just be sure to start off at a low dose and wok your way up. Puking prami is not very nice.

Haha yeah research is needed for this one, if you jump right on .5 mg 3 times a day expect flu like symptoms. The spike in GH looks rather remarkable from the studies I have seen. But only lasts about 2 hours hence multi times per day.

 

[supermanjow]

If you need to stick with oral only Pramipexole might be worth your time to look into.

I think that MK would probably be more effective though since it directly effects the pituitary. Although, I know of no studies comparing the two. This thought is just conjecture based upon how each substance's acts on the body.

 

[harbonah]

I think that MK would probably be more effective though since it directly effects the pituitary. Although, I know of no studies comparing the two. This thought is just conjecture based upon how each substance's acts on the body.

Honestly I would like to see more research on mk and for now the cost is just crazy in comparison so I just cant justify going with a RC of MK when pharma prami is so cheap...not that I would ever consider either nope that's not legal so not me.


oh and ghrp/cjc is not a bad deal so if I was going to do any of this research well my bunny would get these.

 

[craigydar]

Can u get lean gains on all this lads ? I don't want to use steroids at the moment due to low test
What u guys recommend

 

[supermanjow]

Can u get lean gains on all this lads ? I don't want to use steroids at the moment due to low test
What u guys recommend

Probably not going to affect you enough to notice a difference. Steroids plus increasing GH is amazing, but increasing GH by itself doesn't seem to yield much for results unless you are taking a fair amount of straight GH.

 

[craigydar]

Probably not going to affect you enough to notice a difference. Steroids plus increasing GH is amazing, but increasing GH by itself doesn't seem to yield much for results unless you are taking a fair amount of straight GH.

Basically steroids are king then lol after diet
Can't take it really as low test after a heavy tren cycle
It's slowly coming back up
But don't want to do another and end up on trt and struggle to have kids

 

[GLHF]

Peptides are good.

 

[craigydar]

Peptides are good.

Yes but pinning 3 times a day is a joke lol

 

[AnabolicHolic]

Yes but pinning 3 times a day is a joke lol

If you can't stick an itty bitty slin pin into your lower ab fat/skin 3x per day in order to get the effects of expensive-ass GH for a bargain price? You need to find a new hobby

 

[oogaly_boogal]

Yes but pinning 3 times a day is a joke lol

It isn't that bad, 30 gauge pinned into sub q abdominal fat or the quadriceps. I've done up to 6 pins a day.

 

[craigydar]

It isn't that bad, 30 gauge pinned into sub q abdominal fat or the quadriceps. I've done up to 6 pins a day.

Ok well just shows how little I know about them
Sub q is easy lol

But honestly lads.,. Is it worth doing on a lean bulk for like 6 months without any steroids ?

What will I expect ?

 

[sanguine]

intranasal and sublingual application works, at least for the few peptides that have been studied that way.

insulin under the tongue and in the nose both work, and most of what we are interested in has a lower molecular weight than insulin, so i assume itd work for them also

 

[harbonah]

intranasal and sublingual application works, at least for the few peptides that have been studied that way.

insulin under the tongue and in the nose both work, and most of what we are interested in has a lower molecular weight than insulin, so i assume itd work for them also

It would be cost prohibitive for most people as the dose required would increase dramatically in most cases.

 

[sanguine]

It would be cost prohibitive for most people as the dose required would increase dramatically in most cases.

well, nasal application actually gets more drug to the central nervous system and thats what im after.

been squirting 2mg thymosin beta 4 up my nose each day, so yeah i guess that is a bit pricey

 

[supermanjow]

well, nasal application actually gets more drug to the central nervous system and thats what im after.

been squirting 2mg thymosin beta 4 up my nose each day, so yeah i guess that is a bit pricey

There have been several studies with intranasal administration of ghrelin peptides. They show it to be much less effective than subcutaneous injections. The best results of seen were 30-50% when comparatively. So, it ends up becoming very cost prohibitive quickly when you need to use at least 2-3x's the amount for the same effective dose.

 

[warbird01]

You can get ghrp6 and cjc1295 in transdermal creams that you rub in your forearms.

Sounds horribly ineffective...if it even works at all

 

[craigydar]

Sounds horribly ineffective...if it even works at all

Reading up n sounds like aload if crap
Expensive
And if you are in your 40s

 

[tyga tyga]

Mk 677 or GHrH/GHRP will be your best bet unless you pin actual growth..

 

[craigydar]

Mk 677 or GHrH/GHRP will be your best bet unless you pin actual growth..

Think anabolics are better tho
Reading up on growth etc side effects seem bad for minimum gains run on its own
Suppose anabolics and growth together us the way forward

 

[tyga tyga]

Think anabolics are better tho Reading up on growth etc side effects seem bad for minimum gains run on its own Suppose anabolics and growth together us the way forward

Well ya lol anabolics and growth is best. Growth is a long term deal tho to see the benefits

 

[craigydar]

Well ya lol anabolics and growth is best. Growth is a long term deal tho to see the benefits

Like a year ?

 

[supermanjow]

Like a year ?

No shorter than 6 months to really see any benefit. You really need to run it for years though.

 

[Lukef2000]

Sounds horribly ineffective...if it even works at all

Yeah I know especially when subq pins are so easy.

 

[craigydar]

No shorter than 6 months to really see any benefit. You really need to run it for years though.

Not spending like 2-3 grand a year on growth lol fuk that

And get a pop belly

 

[Lukef2000]

Not spending like 2-3 grand a year on growth lol fuk that

And get a pop belly

Meh distention of your organs which cause that "pop gut" is from people who abuse it and also from what I've read stacking it with slin. Look at Sylvester Stallone, he's been on it for years and he doesn't have any major distention from what I've seen.

 

[craigydar]

Meh distention of your organs which cause that "pop gut" is from people who abuse it and also from what I've read stacking it with slin. Look at Sylvester Stallone, he's been on it for years and he doesn't have any major distention from what I've seen.

Yea maybe 6 months max on it affordability wise

 

[supermanjow]

Yea maybe 6 months max on it affordability wise

There's a physique competitor on several of the boards that goes by MattyS4. He runs 20-30 iu's year round and he definitely does not have a pop gut!

 

[craigydar]

There's a physique competitor on several of the boards that goes by MattyS4. He runs 20-30 iu's year round and he definitely does not have a pop gut!

Is it when mixed with slin ? That happens

Do you run it ?

If your not competing its prob best to stick to steroids I suppose

But then again I could be wrong

 

[warbird01]

Eating a **** ton will give you distention, not using gh and slin.

 

[supermanjow]

Is it when mixed with slin ? That happens

Do you run it ?

If your not competing its prob best to stick to steroids I suppose

But then again I could be wrong

Nothing but peptides thus far. I'm a rep and it has perks.

 

[Lukef2000]

Eating a **** ton will give you distention, not using gh and slin.

If I was you I would google growth hormone and organ growth then come back and talk some more. It's pretty common knowledge.

 

[AnabolicHolic]

If I was you I would google growth hormone and organ growth then come back and talk some more. It's pretty common knowledge.

This is true, but I believe you would have to take supra-physiological levels of GH to cause noticeable organ growth.....and pretty much everybody who uses peptides keeps it pretty moderate, and due to the fact actual GH is so cost prohibitive, most are relegated to using moderate to low dosages there as well. Now these IFBB pro's taking ridiculous amounts of GH, OK then there is concern. In a nutshell, if you take this stuff in moderation you should be OK....but I'm not a doctor lol. You figure if you are replacing 20 year old levels or thereabouts when you are 40 or 50....why would that amount cause organ growth if it didn't when you were 20?