- 01-01-2012, 02:45 PM
Could anyone share their protocol for mixing IGF with AA and how they divide out doses? Also storage procedures for cycles that have to sit for several months?
I plan to run 3 cycles of 11mcg EOD for 30 days then off for 30 days and so on. If I ran 1 cycle at 33mcg? or 2 cycles; 1 at 22mcg and another at 11mcg? Would this yeild different results?
Your input would be greatly appreciated
- 01-13-2012, 11:56 PM
I personally mix mine with Bacteriostatic water. I draw out 2ml and inject it into the vial. I inject after each workout of my major muscles i.e. back,legs,shoulders,chest. I inject 60-80mcg after each workout which would put 30-40mcg into each muscle. That's how I do it. Hope that helps.
- 01-15-2012, 02:09 PM
Thanks for your reply! Now I'm just back and forth between BW and AA. I here some people saying IGF is only good for 48 hours in BW while others say thats bs
01-17-2012, 10:54 AM
01-17-2012, 02:07 PM
It must be kept at a certain temp in bw right? What about got storage for 2 months or so, what's the best way to store?Originally Posted by karl lane
01-19-2012, 02:52 PM
keep it in the fridge with BAC water. AA can be kept in room temp but it better in the fridge.
I am still on the fence also with how i am going to re-con my IGF. not sure if i willl use 1 or 2 ml of AA with my 1mg of IGF.....what do you guys do??
I am going to also use BAC water to reduce the sting.
01-19-2012, 05:41 PM
Thanks for the info. Here is the re-con i will be doing for my 3 cycles.
(4) ADDING THE ACETIC ACID
For the purposes of mathematical ease, I suggest mixing the dry 1 milligram (1,000 microgram) igf-1 with 3ml (or 3cc) of the "acetic acid" mixture.
(5) PRESERVATION OF THE igf-1
Next, using a 1cc insulin syringe draw out 1cc out of the bottle containing the 3cc acid water/igf-1 mixture. In a seperate 1cc insulin syringe, draw up another 1cc of the solution. Freeze these two loaded insulin syringes. They will be utilized at a later date.
NOTE: Freezing can safely and effectively preserve igf-1(even after its been mixed).
(6) THE CORRECT DILUTION
To the remaining 1cc of igf-1 thats left in the glass bottle, add 2cc of bacterialstatic water. This will return the total volume back up to 3cc.
---the bw is added to the igf you will be using right away
01-19-2012, 10:22 PM
i have researched this all day. some guys do 2ml AA to 1mg IGF. others just use BAC water, 1-2ml to 1mg IGF. most say using the AA will sting if you dont use some sort of water (sterile)
others back load the pin with BAC water and just re con with AA, to ease sting.
i am going to use 1ml AA to 1mg IGF, back load pin with 40mcg BAC water for sting. pin 20mcg bi lat
01-21-2012, 11:56 AM
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01-22-2012, 08:48 AM
01-26-2012, 03:44 PM
I wouldn't recommend keeping it in your car during the summer. If you're going to store it then don't mix it. Keep it in it's solid form. All these people who say use AA water. You can listen to them of you want. I mix mine with bacteriostatic water and thats it. I pin ED and sometimes twice a day. I go through it too fast to even have to worry about using AA water. If you're worried bout it going bad then you got some cheap ass ****.
01-26-2012, 03:48 PM
I don't freeze mine cuz I don't premix mine. I go through a vial and then mix another. I go through one about every 3 days. I've ran it as long as 8-10 weeks depending on my dosage.Originally Posted by EggzNDsuch
01-30-2012, 07:51 PM
01-30-2012, 10:10 PM
01-31-2012, 12:52 PM
Agreed, except because my cycles are just 13mcgs I'm only off for 2 weeks. I don't know if I can trust Karl lane's words because he asked why igf would be used in pct. it seems like he has run igf but doesnt know much about how to run it safely and effectivelyOriginally Posted by wtmdcg91
01-31-2012, 05:51 PM
02-04-2012, 12:18 AM
02-05-2012, 07:39 AM
Lol your post is kinda hard to understand...I have not seen results but Dave Palumbo has...and at varying dosages, only to find that this was the best dose among his bodybuilders. Look up his protocol and you'll have conflicting ideas behind what is "needed" to grow. I think a lot of people on here are looking for an AAS pump and gains from peptides, leading them to pin huge dosages. Reality is peptides work over the long term and no one realizes igf's true effects til 9-12 months after first cycle. Noooo gut growth at this dosage tho, better safe than sorry
02-05-2012, 01:58 PM
Sorry , i was tired when i typed this ... Look i have used igf and peg mgf for sometime . I started with a low dose and got and still getting a great pump . The feel you get from AAS is not the same you get from igf. I know the difference and i am not compering the 2 to dose on my igf neither on my peg mgf. I keep it 4 week cycle and 4 weeks off . The over saturation from igf is a problem with people using high dosages which leads to no gains from it ,and also leads to other problems since igf is a very strong hormone regulator. Igf is not a fast size gainer it allows you to work harder, bring and supply the nutrients needed for the damaged muscle to recover and grow , provided that you do the other components right , your eating training, rest , and other crucial supplements the body needs during a breakdown. I don't need Dave Palumbos suggestions i work in the medical field and i have better sources to get my information . I also use my self as a test to see and record everything i do !
Hope this helps
02-05-2012, 11:59 PM
I'd love to hear more about your trial and error regarding igf to help with my own upcoming first cycle. I just thought as an igf user you'd be interested in knowing the protocol I plan to base my cycle off. Right now the plan is pinning 13mcg split bilaterally ED. I have read a lot about E3D and EOD but was thinking about doing DP's ED protocol because of the small dose. Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Yeah I think igf seems better than AAS cause you don't lose your gains if you are dedicated to lifting. With AAS you run the risk of getting addicted because you lose gains and motivation off cycle and want to get back to on cycle feeling.
02-08-2012, 11:53 PM
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03-17-2012, 12:15 PM
Soon I will be running IGF-1 as a bridge and during the peak of my cycle I will have my hormones tested (which includes IGF-1) just to verify that my source is legit and that 20mcg/day is plenty to see growth in both hypertrophic and hyperplasia forms. I for one think that if you need to take 60-100mcg/day then you have bunk IGF. Harsh conclusion I know but I believe that there are more phonies out there than there are legit sources. I still find it concerning that IGF found on the web can vary in prices from $40/mg to $200/mg. If these products were truly the same, we shouldn't see such a drastic fluctuation in price. That to me is a real indicator that most people aren't using real IGF-1.
On a side note, to prevent pituitary suppression, I would recommend GHRP's & GHRH's such as Ipamorelin and CJC with the IGF cycle.
03-19-2012, 06:57 PM
04-11-2012, 02:11 PM
When you're spending 150 per mg your dumbass is getting ****ed in the ass on priceOriginally Posted by fueledpassion
04-11-2012, 02:12 PM
04-11-2012, 02:17 PM
Given the price of HGH and peptides that come straight from the pharmacuetical companies, I'd say if you are buying IGF-1 @ $50/mg or less you are probably getting bunk stuff. Needs to be American made from a legit pharma in which case will not be cheap.
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