- 02-12-2011, 09:47 AM
Hey everyone, this is my first log. Weight gain is the goal as lean as possible with an ideal end weight at 180-190 and 10% BF. Let me know whacha think and if you have any questions. I started the log two days ago so I will catch up the posts.
Research Subject (RS) Starting Stats
Body Fat%: 9%
Height: 5' 9"
Bicep: 13 1/8"
Thigh: 21 1/2"
Chest Expanded: 44"
Starting Levels (natural unboosted):
LH - 5.0 (1.7-8.6)
FSH - 2.7 (1.5-12.4)
Testosterone, Serum - 1395 (280-800)
Estradiol - 55.3 (7.6-42.6)
GHRP-6 - 150mcg 2x per day to start. Once before bed and once after gym
CJC-1293 - 100mcg 2x per day. Same time as GHRP
I plan to do at least two months but I may adjust the doses/reduce supply.
About 4000cals per day as lean as possible.
Cissus for cortisol control, Animal Flex for joints, and a multi-vitamin.
I have been doing 5g of Creatine for the last month.
Last edited by kdog45ak; 02-13-2011 at 07:10 PM. Reason: Equipment error
- 02-12-2011, 09:48 AM
Final Results. (Stopped short due to illness)
I got Coxsackievirus following my last post and could not eat anything but ice pops for 2 weeks. I got giant ulcers all over my mouth and throat and had to stay in bed for almost a week straight. After that I kinda fell of the face of the earth and had a work schedule change which prevented me from working out and eating good. Obviously lost all my muscle gains over the log but the BF% stayed low. Kinda a catastrophic fail for me but results did seem promising.
Summary: Good muscle gains. BF calipers said 1% gain in BF but i didn't see it. I felt a lot bigger at the end. I didn't feel way stronger but a lot harder. I will def run it again in the future.
BF%: 10% (+1)
Notes: I don't know why the weight is so high. Weigh in was the same time as always and not immediate post meal. Headaches are going away. Sub's workout was a little down, just couldn't get any kind of pump going.
Bicep: 14" (+7/8")
Thigh: 21 3/4" (+1/4")
Calf: 15" (+1")
Waist: 15 1/2" (+1/2")
Neck: 17" (+1")
Chest: 42" (+1")
Chest Expanded: 44" (+0)
- 02-12-2011, 10:05 AM
Pre First Dose
HR: 74 BPM
After First dose:
Log subject appeared flushed, temp rose about 2 degrees in 2 hours.
One hour after dose subject ate a large meal. No other noticeable sides.
Last edited by kdog45ak; 02-13-2011 at 07:11 PM. Reason: BF% equipment error
02-12-2011, 10:09 AM
HR: 72 BPM
Notes: Subject slept very deeply when dosed before bed but appeared slightly flushed and had a minor elevated temp. Sub again had a huge appetite after dosing post workout. (2000cal meal)
Last edited by kdog45ak; 02-13-2011 at 07:11 PM. Reason: BF% equipment error
02-13-2011, 08:38 AM
Notes: Sub has chronic mild headaches possibly related to reduced caffeine intake. Sub is developing minor back acne. I will try to reduce subs sodium intake to try to control BP. Subs temp consistently rises about 2 degrees after dosing. Does anyone know if this is normal?
02-15-2011, 03:31 PM
Looks pretty good man. How long do you plan on running this?
02-15-2011, 07:11 PM
02-15-2011, 07:21 PM
Notes: Headaches are less intense and less frequent but still occurring. All other listed sides are about the same. I am reducing daily calories to about 3500 and there is less felt abdominal bloating. Sub appears slightly larger and fuller. Sub just got three new stretch marks on the front of the hips. (very rare for sub)
02-17-2011, 02:42 AM
Day 7 (added 2IU of Slin)
The last 3 days were a bit of a drag. No more caffeine headaches and reduced sodium intake but BP has stayed high. Sub seemed fatigued during workouts and did not get great pumps. Weight stayed about the same until yesterday so I added Humulin-R Slin at 2IU post workout. I will increase by 1IU each workout until I hit 7IU. This will hopefully adjust for the difficulty in keeping carbs high without the sodium. I am hoping BP will drop a little soon.
02-17-2011, 06:12 AM
Can't wait to see results as I'm putting money aside to buy a six month run of these two peptides. Keep it up. I wouldn't call yourself "subject" though. It makes you sound like a wanker.
02-17-2011, 07:42 AM
02-17-2011, 06:19 PM
02-17-2011, 07:16 PM
02-17-2011, 08:06 PM
huh good gains in a short amount of time !
I'm 22, should I run GHRP6 plus CJC ?
02-17-2011, 09:01 PM
02-20-2011, 09:49 AM
Notes: Good intensity on workout. Calories will be reduced to about 2700 (previous maintenance amount) for a little while. I hope to bring cals back up soon but I am having difficulty fitting in enough meals to keep em up due to transportation/scheduling issues.
Notes: Headaches are almost all gone. Body acne has increased slightly more. Skin appears slightly smoother. Normal body creases and wrinkles are less noticeable (especially at inside of elbows and middle of stomach).
Notes: Yes, that is a weight loss of one pound. I believe it is due to the reduced cals as mentioned above. I am disappointed but there is no way around it for now. I am hoping that the increased Insulin will help adjust for the reduced cals once I get to 7IU post workout with carbs.
Notes: Good workout. Sub seems stronger than beginning of cycle. I will post actual strength gains at end of cycle. Subs major muscle groups appear larger/fuller. I am still trying to fit in more cals per day but am having the same scheduling difficulties.
03-04-2011, 12:29 AM
03-04-2011, 09:08 AM
Why not CJC-1295?
also, might want to try adding Huperzine A into your cycle. It's cheap ($5-10) and is OTC and makes your GHRP/GHRH more effective by inhibiting somatostatin which is responsible for inhibiting GH release.
Appropriate dosage would bt 50-150mcg per day. Yes, the pills are dosed in mcg.
03-08-2011, 02:54 AM
man it's been a while, wtf happened to your cycle !
03-13-2011, 10:04 AM
Hey all, sorry my sub got sick for the last couple weeks with some kind of gastro virus. It was horrible. During that time I did not keep good records. Body fat% has stayed the same. BP has stayed approximately the same throughout. HR has been up in the upper 70s most of the time. Temp has ranged low to high depending on the day. I cut the peptides completely after a few days into the illness because I felt it was a waste since the sub couldn't work out or maintain a proper diet. I am sorry if this ruins the log but I am sure I am more disappointed than anyone.
On a positive note, normally when Sub gets sick he loses a VERY large amount of weight (5-10lbs) however this time Sub did not lose ANY weight from the time of the last dose (still at 170). I am guessing the weight has maintained because of the effects of increased IGF levels promoting new muscle growth. There has been a small loss of strength since last dose.
I will continue from day 11 to day 12 being back to 100% and with peps again.
03-13-2011, 10:11 AM
03-13-2011, 11:31 AM
03-13-2011, 04:21 PM
Some questions Bros !
1- Is that a normal dose ? like a dose that most people do ?
2- Do you need to fridge GHRp and CJC ? do you mix with BA or AA ?
3- what's the difference between CJC 1293 and 1295 ?
03-13-2011, 05:35 PM
03-13-2011, 11:09 PM
03-14-2011, 01:47 AM
03-14-2011, 02:00 AM
03-14-2011, 07:59 AM
So for the AM and PWO dose, just wait 30 mins before eating and then do whatever you want. GH will peak 30 mins after administration. And it's okay to mix the GHRH & GHRP in the same slin needle.
03-14-2011, 10:05 AM
Notes: Good workout with great pumps. Sub feels better getting back into things. Energy is high, sleep is good and hunger is going back up. Sub looks "bulkier" than ever in a good way but i do think fat% is up even if the calp doesn't. Since this is a gain cycle i don't mind if there is some fat gains especially considering how hard ANY gains have been in the past.
03-14-2011, 10:12 AM
03-14-2011, 07:32 PM
03-14-2011, 09:02 PM
can you get GH gut from these stuff ?
03-14-2011, 09:16 PM
Taken from another thread on another forum....from the master himself....
Acromelagy (GH Gut) can only occur if you are predisposed to it (i.e. have the gene) in which case you will likely have already been exhibiting symptoms of this disease. Any GH (including your own natural production) can exacerbate symptoms.
As for the GH gut that is something that may occur from chronically high levels of IGF-1. High levels of IGF-1 would come about from chronically high levels of GH.
...possibilities sure at much higher chronic dose levels when combined with a factor that will exacerbate growth effects...a factor such as insulin...
03-14-2011, 09:21 PM
I hate the GH gut, why the hell would someone want to have bigger muscles and also have a ****roach belly gut... nasty mofos lol
03-14-2011, 10:59 PM
03-16-2011, 11:53 PM
Notes: I think there is some water retention especially on subs abs. I am guessing this is the reason for the increased weight and possibly for the increase on the fat% calps.
Notes: Weight has stayed up. Gains appear wet for now. Sub is having minor headaches occasionally.
03-17-2011, 01:10 AM
bro do you know you can only get 100mcg out of GHRP6 at a time ? The rest get wasted
03-17-2011, 07:50 AM
03-17-2011, 12:25 PM
03-17-2011, 02:14 PM
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