Epistane and X-lean

  1. Epistane and X-lean


    Hi

    i am going to Cycle Epistane at 20/30/30/40 (this is my first cycle)
    and i was wondering if it would be a good idea to ad X-lean at some point in my cycle, maybe the last part and continue X-lean in the pct

    PCT up until now i have
    6-Bromodion
    Natural SERM
    Natural AI
    Natural Automatize inhibiter
    and test booster's

    any comment would be nice

    Thanks


  2. An anti cort isnt a bad idea,if you have the funds, Id say go for it.


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  3. Thanks nice to know

    what about taking the recommended dose of X-lean 1 at morning and 1 at night in the whole cycle ?

    and does my cycle and post look okay ?
    i will take cycle support before and the whole time until end of PCT

    again thanks for any comment
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Pride89 View Post
    Thanks nice to know

    what about taking the recommended dose of X-lean 1 at morning and 1 at night in the whole cycle ?

    and does my cycle and post look okay ?
    i will take cycle support before and the whole time until end of PCT

    again thanks for any comment

    Honestly, I think its a waste to take for the whole cycle, for me personally, I would rather do more of it in pct, I only responded well to higher doses, so keep that in mind. Also, you wrote natural serm, I dont know what you mean by this, but make sure you a real serm on hand, just in case.
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  5. Okay thanks
    I got some Nolva on hands now aswell, and for the x-lean i will mega dose the first 10 days of PCT

    Thanks for the help guys

  6. Also i plan on adding formestane (trans dermal) by CEL at low dose to my cycle maybe from week 2 and Then run it 1 week into pct, would that be a good idear mostly because i dont want estrogenic side effects and maybe gain little more lean mass

  7. What I've found ...

    If you're going to take Epi everyday (no pulsing) - then skip the cortisol blockers, and the anti-estrogens. Simply taking Erase on one Epi cycle for me dried up my Estrogen something fierce and made me feel very bad - joint aches and just an overall "OMG I'm sick" feeling.

    Epi is a mild substance - but it does everything - cortisol control and estrogen control - and, I'm 49 - so I'm going to have a lot more problems with estrogen than someone like you.

    Now ... if you "pulse" epi - then sure, using something like Erase or Formestane on the off days is a good idea and that's how I do it.

    With the Epi - I also use Ephedrine HCL / Caffeine to enhance the leaning effects of Epi. I'm working toward getting under 10 percent body fat - a herculean effort for an "old" guy like me - but I am down to around 11 percent now.

    But the general rule of thumb is to throttle back on the other supps when you're on Epi or some other anabolic substance. The substance will pretty much override anything else you put in your system so it ends up being a waste of money.

  8. Good info ^^^^^^^^^

    no need to waste money or product, definitely save the cort blockers for pct
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by HondaV65 View Post
    What I've found ...

    If you're going to take Epi everyday (no pulsing) - then skip the cortisol blockers, and the anti-estrogens. Simply taking Erase on one Epi cycle for me dried up my Estrogen something fierce and made me feel very bad - joint aches and just an overall "OMG I'm sick" feeling.

    Epi is a mild substance - but it does everything - cortisol control and estrogen control - and, I'm 49 - so I'm going to have a lot more problems with estrogen than someone like you.

    Now ... if you "pulse" epi - then sure, using something like Erase or Formestane on the off days is a good idea and that's how I do it.

    With the Epi - I also use Ephedrine HCL / Caffeine to enhance the leaning effects of Epi. I'm working toward getting under 10 percent body fat - a herculean effort for an "old" guy like me - but I am down to around 11 percent now.

    But the general rule of thumb is to throttle back on the other supps when you're on Epi or some other anabolic substance. The substance will pretty much override anything else you put in your system so it ends up being a waste of money.
    okay, i see your point
    i think since this is my first PH ill just go everyday for 4 weeks to se how it feels

    but how long do you use EPI when pulsing ?
    and do you do the same with PCT as you would with everyday use for 4 week ?

    Thanks

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Pride89 View Post
    okay, i see your point
    i think since this is my first PH ill just go everyday for 4 weeks to se how it feels

    but how long do you use EPI when pulsing ?
    and do you do the same with PCT as you would with everyday use for 4 week ?

    Thanks
    BTW, since no one has mention it, keep some Taurine on hand. If you start to get back pumps and Epi is known to cause them (feels almost like I have slipped a disc in my hips when I get them) start supplementing at least 5g Taurine daily which should take care of it.
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  11. yes i have taurine on stock heard that on another thread, but thanks for the heads up, i also get some taurine from my creatin and amino pills so i should be fine
  

  
 

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