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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    Uh, I'm confused, 1/10 was your first blood draw since quitting SD six days earlier, and you haven't started the Boladrol yet your markers went up?
    1/10 they went down (as expected), 1/17 and 1/20 were higher than 1/10...which is odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    SD can cause your liver values to be high even months after stopping. Also I'm guessing you are taking NOLVA or TOREM for pct from your SD cycle?. You didn't mention that. That will definitely keep AST/ALT up there.

    I trust you know what you are doing though since I remember you from years ago.
    No SERM being used, or any PCT supp for that matter...I woulda mentioned that . Was "planning on" my liver and lipid values being normal already and jumping on Boldadrol.
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    Update:
    1/3-->1/10-->1/17-->1/20
    Total Cholesterol: 218-->243-->238-->219
    HDL: 16-->17-->33-->39
    LDL(direct assay, not calculated): 193-->214-->197-->178

    1/20's LFT's ran on a different analyzer by my friend: bold is at my friend's work, underlined is at my work...

    AST:114 116
    ALT:110 127
    LDH:214 173

    So... my AST, ALT, and LDH remain slightly to moderately elevated (LDH is basically normal now). My lipids are dramatically improving. I probably won't be able to get lipids run till sometime next week, as my friend is taking a short vacation. But I'll have at least one more set of LFT's this week. If they're normal...its on like Donkey Kong!! Realistcally aiming for next week...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    Adderal is alpha methyl-phenethylamine. And BAD news!!!! This is whithout a doubt causing added stress on you liver, and taking amphetamine while running cycles like this is making your heart scream. Blood pressure wise, no doubt.
    Adderall:
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    dextroamphetamine sulfate, dextroamphetamine saccharate, amphetamine
    aspartate monohydrate, amphetamine sulfate capsules,
    I'm sure my heart didn't much like years of ephedrine, and numerous runs of clenbuterol while on cycle...but he's alive and kickin. I've MASSIVELY cut down on my caffeine intake as well. And I feel great. I <3 Adderall!
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    Quote Originally Posted by supersoldier View Post
    Adderall:

    I'm sure my heart didn't much like years of ephedrine, and numerous runs of clenbuterol while on cycle...but he's alive and kickin. I've MASSIVELY cut down on my caffeine intake as well. And I feel great. I <3 Adderall!
    Amphetamine is alpha-methyl-phenylethylamine. Carefull, that stuff can be verrryyyyy bad news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    Amphetamine is alpha-methyl-phenylethylamine. Carefull, that stuff can be verrryyyyy bad news.
    I'm not taking it, but an explanation would be nice. I'm just soaking up info, so give me some
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    Amphetamine is alpha-methyl-phenylethylamine. Carefull, that stuff can be verrryyyyy bad news.
    True, and duly noted . Moderation is key, as to most things in life. I take adderall only 5 days a week, as to hamper a tolerance/dependence and also just to give my body a break from it.
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    More good news


    Update:

    1/26/11
    AST:56
    ALT:72
    LDH:229

    This is good! From now on I'm gonna disregard the LDH result that I get here and go with the ones from my friend's lab. We actually haven't established a range for LDH at this particular lab, and the 100-200 that I cited earlier is the range from a different analyzer. Oh...and from: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/003471.htm

    A typical range is 105 - 333 IU/L (international units per liter).

    Normal value ranges may vary slightly among different laboratories.
    Crosssing my fingers for next week!
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    good, I started mine today too my ast is 20, alt 29, get my full cholesterol results tomorrow.
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    I've got light goals for mine (sorry for the momentary hijack supersoldier) I'm really just looking for 8 or so lean pounds while dropping 2-3 lbs of fat. Anything better than that will be fantastic, but that should be easily reachable with no problem
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
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    Imo rest for a while and find a lab that also test ur hormones. Ur levels and u just commin of sd would anyways not give accurate results of boladrol. Take some time of then in a few month do this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    Imo rest for a while and find a lab that also test ur hormones. Ur levels and u just commin of sd would anyways not give accurate results of boladrol. Take some time of then in a few month do this
    Im guessing you dont know SS. It almost killed him to drop the SD for a couple wks to run the Boladrol.


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    Loll obviosly u haven't heared of IronLiver Jasen lmao

    Sd xan b addictin especially since I don't get any sides from it, ran it with anadrol sd at 40mg lived it

    Just saying in order to have correct bloods on bola
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    Imo rest for a while and find a lab that also test ur hormones. Ur levels and u just commin of sd would anyways not give accurate results of boladrol. Take some time of then in a few month do this
    The only (commonly tested) hormones worthy of testing would be estradiol, prolactin, and progesterone...and I don't have any access to them. I could tell you with 100% certainty that LH and FSH would be nil, and testosterone would be very low (compared to baseline) while running a solo cycle of a potent methyl such as SD, M1T, Boladrol, etc. The results I will give will be 100% accurate. Since I have no access to the first three aforementioned hormones, and I've done this same type of testing with many a methyl in my day...we're primarily looking at 4 tests: AST, ALT, LDH, and HDL. Second to those would be Total Cholesterol and LDL (and subsequently HDL/Total Cholesterol ratio.) Once my Enzymes, Cholesterol, and HDL reach the normal range and level off and are stable, I will start the Boladrol. From then on, any increase in enzyme #, decrease in HDL #, or change in Total Cholesterol or LDL will be...like I said...100% accurate. This is not my first rodeo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supersoldier View Post
    The only (commonly tested) hormones worthy of testing would be estradiol, prolactin, and progesterone...and I don't have any access to them. I could tell you with 100% certainty that LH and FSH would be nil, and testosterone would be very low (compared to baseline) while running a solo cycle of a potent methyl such as SD, M1T, Boladrol, etc. The results I will give will be 100% accurate. Since I have no access to the first three aforementioned hormones, and I've done this same type of testing with many a methyl in my day...we're primarily looking at 4 tests: AST, ALT, LDH, and HDL. Second to those would be Total Cholesterol and LDL (and subsequently HDL/Total Cholesterol ratio.) Once my Enzymes, Cholesterol, and HDL reach the normal range and level off and are stable, I will start the Boladrol. From then on, any increase in enzyme #, decrease in HDL #, or change in Total Cholesterol or LDL will be...like I said...100% accurate. This is not my first rodeo.
    Can't wait to see it. Bola's going to be my next cycle unless your levels are wrecked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drudixon View Post
    Can't wait to see it. Bola's going to be my next cycle unless your levels are wrecked.
    From my experience...the more potent the oral-methyl, the more liver toxic it is. With people dosing only 4-6mg and having excellent results, I'm not expecting my numbers to look great. IMO the only way to have nice looking lab #'s and run a cycle at the same time is to run injectables only. BUT...keep in mind that whatever the #'s are on a cycle of a potent oral, they'll return to normal in a few weeks. I just ran SD for a few months, and I'm damn near close to normal now and its only been 3 weeks since I stopped. Not everyone's body reacts to a drug the same way, so whatever #'s and experience with Boladrol I report should be used as a guideline and not a testament...if that makes sense. There was a dude here a few years ago claiming jaundice and hospitalization from a SD cycle, but I and many others have run it quite a few times with no serious problems.
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    Today


    AST:68
    ALT:66

    Bout the same as 2 days ago. Realistically aiming to start the Boldadrol a week from Monday (Feb 7)...which coincidently works out better for me due to something I currently have going on in my life. I guess good things come to those who wait...
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    This cycle's gonna rock! I've already got a 6 pack, or at least a 4 pack even to the most scrutinizing of ya...lol. These last few weeks I've been getting to the gym more, and eating very clean--with a calorie deficit. Plus I take adderall which I'm sure does wonders for metabolism. I'm cutting up at a rapid pace, only thing is that my strength is diminishing...or if its not diminishing, my heaviest few sets aren't going up every week like I'm used to. I suppose I'm "maintaining" muscle and strength, but like everyone else I need some GAINS!!

    I'll do before and after pics too...along with labs and detailed everything to make this the best log ever.
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    Sounds great man, really looking forward to seeing how this plays out with the numbers.
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    UPDATE:

    2/1/11 (1/28/11)
    AST: 45 (68)
    ALT: 57 (66)
    LDH: 184 (228)

    And I just hit a set of deadlifts 405 X 6 (failed after 5 my previous 2 weeks)! Mind you in the past I've hit 455 X 10 and 560 X 4, but I was on many a juice and at least 20lbs heavier. Just weighed myself...195 First time I've been under 200lbs since God knows how long. Bring on the Boladrol Monday!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmowry View Post
    Before and after shots are gonna be outta this world!! I've never started a cycle with such a low bodyfat % before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supersoldier View Post
    UPDATE:

    2/1/11 (1/28/11)
    AST: 45 (68)
    ALT: 57 (66)
    LDH: 184 (228)

    And I just hit a set of deadlifts 405 X 6 (failed after 5 my previous 2 weeks)! Mind you in the past I've hit 455 X 10 and 560 X 4, but I was on many a juice and at least 20lbs heavier. Just weighed myself...195 First time I've been under 200lbs since God knows how long. Bring on the Boladrol Monday!!!
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    More labs coming tomorrow morning, I'm hoping they'll be normal. Then again on Monday morning, which I hope will also be normal and serve as baseline numbers cause some Boladrol is going down the hatch right after I get the printout!
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    Enzymes still slightly elevated.

    On a side note I joined a new gym. Its a few blocks closer to my work, and the dumbbells go up to 100...a step up from the 85's at my old one that were completely bent to sh1t. So I can add another 5-10 min to my lunchbreak workouts and lift heavier weights.
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    Reading up a bit I found this article... http://www.aafp.org/afp/2005/0315/p1105.html

    Another cause of elevated liver transaminase levels is muscle injury. Strenuous exercise or myopathy can cause elevations (especially of AST) without causing any other symptoms. A creatine kinase or other muscle marker can be obtained to confirm or exclude such a process.
    Today my enzymes AST/ALT were slightly higher 57(45)/59(57) than they were on the 1st. The #'s on the 1st were after a day off from the gym, and today's #'s were after 3 straight days of intense exercise. Not lifting Saturday or Sunday for sure...I wouldn't be surprised if Monday my enzymes (particularly AST) are lower. Oh and my CK is just about always through the roof when I train a lot, farther evidence of enzyme elevation from strenuous exercise IMO...

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