Boladrol - A Brand New PH from IBE!
- 10-15-2010, 10:51 AM
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- 10-15-2010, 11:04 AM
10-15-2010, 11:14 AM
10-15-2010, 11:15 AM
I will be logging my run in a few weeks, just getting everything else together and waiting the the bottle the was promissed to ship ; ) come on baby
10-15-2010, 11:16 AM
10-15-2010, 12:09 PM
10-15-2010, 12:16 PM
I would still like to know the difference between Havoc and Epistane, as stated in post #38. I would prefer not to be ignorant on the subject as some suggest that I am.. I would prefer a pm as to not hijack this thread any further.
10-15-2010, 12:27 PM
Test bottles should be received by next week. There should be more than one honest report. judging by the strength of this, experienced guys should be feeling it within 7-10 days. Should be good.
10-15-2010, 12:48 PM
10-15-2010, 02:07 PM
So for ANYONE to say this is toxic is ignorant and completely guessing. Frankly you can't look at a compound and determine toxicity, if that were the case there would be no need for pharmacodynamic studies or phase 1 clinical trials.
And to discredit what was said about "we didn't know how toxic they were going to be" with things like superdrol, we 100% did. I was around in those times and MULTIPLE beta testers came back with insane bloodwork, HDL levels less than 10, LDL greater than 225, liver enzymes twice to three times upper limit normal, etc. and that was before the product was released. People still bought it and still buy it today. Same with dymethazine, that is one we could "somewhat" predict due to how closely related it was to superdrol.
Logs should be out today or this coming week, some people already got it. Check PHF, BB.com, and AM.
10-15-2010, 02:43 PM
10-15-2010, 02:58 PM
I gave up on pointing this out to people a while ago. It just gets old for one to repeat himself over and over...and there are a few gurus on here that quote dimethylation as the reason for increased hepatotoxicity and they post WAY more than I do. It was just a lost cause...
EDIT: I was just told that 7c alkylation will cause hepatotoxicity in the likes of 17c alkylation. I've never read this before.Oh my. Caffeine is TRI-METHYLATED!!!
RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
10-15-2010, 04:55 PM
10-15-2010, 05:45 PM
I just want to reiterate the fact that anything that is abused can cause problems, even water! So enjoy these things but don't go crazy with your dosing and don't take it for long amounts of time. I have always found that 2-3 weeks is fine for me, I take a break and I am ready to go again, no PCT needed especially on the 2 weekers.
10-16-2010, 03:43 AM
great info and discussion in this thread I hope the beta testers are paying attention.
10-16-2010, 01:39 PM
I just got my beta samples today! I'll be starting the cycle around Nov. 1st. Waiting on support supps, AI's, etc. I post full details and my background once I get the long going. I'll post a link to the log here.
Can't wait to get started. Haven't been on anything for over a year. Sounds like it will be a beast!
10-16-2010, 01:56 PM
10-16-2010, 05:05 PM
It's about time we got something strong out. I'm tired of SD being the only thing to really get excited about IMO. I'm glad someone finally risked some toxicity issues to deliver something that will work. Any more bottles as I'd love to test this out.
10-17-2010, 11:26 AM
10-17-2010, 01:07 PM
10-17-2010, 06:17 PM
Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
10-19-2010, 06:40 PM
10-21-2010, 11:49 PM
IBE end up limiting the numbers on their beta run? Seems like most testers got theirs already...
10-22-2010, 12:23 PM
got mine but 2 days before recieving it i came down with a bad double ear sinus infection and forced to go on a 1 week antibiotic run so im gonna have to wait till i get better, timing sucks cause i was ready to hop on the b-drol right away but now im gonna have to wait. but i can say i have big hopes for it, im going to push for my all time bench max while on bdrol, i want to hit 500lbs bench, im 190lbs right now, who knows what ill be after this infection is gone but i dont see myself droping more then 5lbs. but again 500lb bench is what im shooting for, my max currently is 405.
10-23-2010, 01:26 PM
10-23-2010, 02:00 PM
10-23-2010, 02:05 PM
10-23-2010, 02:40 PM
IBE is an excellent company though with some really intelligent people behind their products. I really wish the would come out with more products more often though. To me though that says they spend a lot of time working/studying with each supplement they release. On the other hand some companies just come out with product after product without spending any time at all studying what it is/what it does. They just copy/steal other peoples ideas. So I'm saying IBE is one of the companies that LEADS, others follow.
10-23-2010, 02:47 PM
Anadrol is used by hospitals but it doesn't mean its the best choice for every patient and doesn't mean there won't be liver damage..... I'm sure it would tear you up too... if I were you i wouldn't touch an oral hormone no matter if its methylated or not...
Doesn't mean the hundreds (more like thousands) of other people that ran both m1t and superdrol and phera plex and anadrol and dbol etc. can't also run this compound with little to no side effects and also help mitigate those sides with support supplements.
Sorry t, you know your the very small minority here.
10-23-2010, 03:08 PM
Yet I used to run a lot of trans-dermal 1T/4AD cycles with no problems. Normal length of cycles for me was 6-8 weeks for trans-dermal. I wonder if we will ever see anything like that again?.
Back to the subject at hand. Don't want to hi-jack the thread. Keep on original subject.
10-23-2010, 03:26 PM
Love Me some dermals!
wish they could come out with something as effective and side free as td 4-ad...
Dermacrine is a pretty good alternative though.... Just many more things come with dosing dhea then 4-ad
10-24-2010, 09:11 PM
10-24-2010, 09:20 PM
10-24-2010, 09:24 PM
10-24-2010, 09:26 PM
10-25-2010, 01:55 AM
Anyhow here's my log link
Boladrol Log- Bulking the Poopster
10-25-2010, 05:44 PM
Everyone reacts differently, even to food. One person can eat peanut butter and be fine, while someone else may go into convulsions from a strong allergic reaction!. Its the same exact thing with supplements/drugs. Anyone could have an adverse reaction or be prone to the side effects.
No amount of support supplements can cancel out these adverse reactions/side effects. In fact, it can just compound the problem by causing extra stress on the liver. Taking one pill to stop the side effects of another doesn't make sense.
I just don't believe its as "cut & dry" as "don't drink and take support supplements". There are so many different factors involved.
10-25-2010, 05:52 PM
I am not arguing any of the above with you. If you have seen most of my posts around here I am honestly one of the most cautious here, and even drop disclaimers in peoples logs when they are doing something I don't think should be an influence for others. I am also speaking to a fairly educated audience that knows the risks they are taking with anabolics of any form, at least I think. But certainly to think ingesting anything along with a support supplement would zero out the damage is absurd.
I just honestly don't think this is going to be a liver killer above other harsh compounds we have seen. Certainly harsh, but that is where a user must determine if they are willing to go forth with the risk.
10-25-2010, 06:52 PM
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