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Another hater !!! Boy you competitors sure are showing up a lot these days...Like I said before and I will say again. The supplement market is cut throat as can be. First off a few things need to be asked here about this "study"
1. Who funded the study ?
2. How was the product stored/handled ?
3. Was the test done with the correct equipment ?
4. Who provided the Epistane for the study, and how do we know it was even IBE epistane to begin with ?...Was the bottles sealed or unsealed ? What was the Expiration date on the bottle ? Did it come directly from the factory, or a retailer ? Or perhaps it was provided by someone who has an ulterior motive ?
There is your TRUTH buddy boy...IBE Epistane sells out everywhere{Because it works}...Nice try on attempting to stir the pot though...LMAO.
First, let me say that I love Epi. I've always had great gains and virtually no sides. My freezer is stacked with it.There is your TRUTH buddy boy...IBE Epistane sells out everywhere{Because it works}...Nice try on attempting to stir the pot though...LMAO.
First, let me say that I love Epi. I've always had great gains and virtually no sides. My freezer is stacked with it.
However, the fact that it "works" doesn't mean anything. If the product isn't what they claim it is, that's messed up. How would you feel if you bought a test booster only to find out it had superdrol in it? Sure you'd be happy with the gains, but the fact it was misrepresented would be wrong on many levels.
I'm not making any claims or taking sides here, I just found your statement to be worthless.
I agree with you 10,000,000% that there is no Phera in Epi. I'm not saying that at all. I'm not even saying that Epi has anything other than what IBE claims is in there. I've been around long enough to know you can't believe everything on these boards, or the internet for that matter.About as worthless as these supposed test claims I hope ? Because again there are far to many variables to use this "test" as anything, but some rumor that some competitor may have started to hurt another thriving supplement company.
Also anyone who has run Phera and run Epistane knows there is a huge difference in the response from both compounds. I off course am Speaking with first hand knowledge on this subject and it's not something I just read on some website that's trying to pimp a particular brand, or product.
Phera IMO is incredibly strong, much like D-bol. I retain a ****load of water on it and get strong as hell. Epistane on the other hand, the weight gains are very minimal, sides are very minimal, and its great for strength but not as potent as Phera.
I agree with you 10,000,000% that there is no Phera in Epi. I'm not saying that at all. I'm not even saying that Epi has anything other than what IBE claims is in there. I've been around long enough to know you can't believe everything on these boards, or the internet for that matter.
I just didn't agree with your post of "it works, so it must be what IBE claims it is." Frankly, I don't give a crap what's in it, so long as it doesn't kill me and keeps helping me make the gains I have been every time I use it.
I've always said Epi is #1 in terms of gains vs sides. It will be one sad day should it ever be taken off the market.
By the way, Phera did nothing for me but bloat me up and give me slight gyno which vanished a week after I stopped taking it. Basically the opposite of Epi. :bigok:
is epistane going to be discontinued like formex?
If there is DMT conversion in Epi or even as a cross contaminant, its pretty minimal IMO. The difference between Epi and Phera is night and day in terms of water retention and estro build up.
Formex made me feel like I was on Tad or something... seriously.is epistane going to be discontinued like formex?
only boners? any body comp changes/drying?Formex made me feel like I was on Tad or something... seriously.
No, I never noticed any of those. I respond to TD-Form a lot better; but the boners were deadly!only boners? any body comp changes/drying?
I agree, I have used Epi and Phera, definitely different compounds. Dunno what is up with the study, if they got a bottle from a "bad batch" or what.If there is DMT conversion in Epi or even as a cross contaminant, its pretty minimal IMO. The difference between Epi and Phera is night and day in terms of water retention and estro build up.
dood i just want to tear your AVI up, **** me i would love to taste her rainbow. I would be all like "a piece of candy,huh, a piece of candy, huh,a piece of candyThere has been much speculation over this for a while now. Consequently, I got rid of all of my stash. I look forward to hearing from the powers-to-be at IBE.
I'm glad to hear that!I have 4 different people all running the new black , black lid batches. And all 4 say the same thing, oh my god incredible pumps, and all are lean as ****(and how be highlt pissed if they bloated up). 3 of them are on week 3, and 1 is on wk 4. 2 of them have run phera in the past, and this is no Phera.
Fact of the matter is that sum of us just react differently to compounds, not all will get the same results.
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