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    My Epistane/Havoc blog


    I'm running Epistane/Havoc for 8 weeks. Havoc for the first 4 weeks, and then a bottle of Epistane.

    Here's the blog: Havoc Blog

    I start tomorrow!!!

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    sweet mang, let us know
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    great connection man

    I'm going mo make the same in septemper, let us know about progress

    good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonek View Post
    great connection man

    I'm going mo make the same in septemper, let us know about progress

    good luck
    Thank you and I'll keep you updated.

    I took my first dose today (10 mg), just 8 minute ago, actually. I'll go through a workout here in a bit, and I'll probably have little to report until later in the week or next week.

    Most people say they don't feel "on" until they hit a 30 or 40 mg dose, around the beginning of week 3.

    I'll be in touch!

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    looking forward to this will be checking in
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    Second day - not too much to report except that the workout I had was pretty nice. I took my first dose at 20 mg, about an hour before I lifted, had 5-8 grams of creatine in my post workout drink.

    I'm using one of Boris Sheiko's programs. Taxing stuff but very promising, I think.

    extremefitness.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-20790.html

    Today was day one on that program:

    In base (preparation) period by coach Boris Sheiko (Russia)

    (50% 5X1 ??? where: 50% - percentage of maximum; 5 ??? reps; 1 - sets)

    1 WEEK

    1 day (Monday)

    1.Bench press 50% 5?1,60% 4?2,70% 3?2,75% 3?5.(34)
    2.Squat 50% 5?1,60% 5?2,70% 5?5.(40)
    3.Bench press 50% 6?1,60% 6?2,65% 6?4.(42)
    4.Flat dumbbells ???flies???10?5.
    5.???Good mornings??? (standing) 5?5.
    Total: 116 lifts
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    Whats your dosage for this cycle going to be like?
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    I find it funny people are still writing Epistane/Havoc lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by triggerman View Post
    Whats your dosage for this cycle going to be like?
    Dosage is 20/30/40/40/40 (and it might go to 6 weeks).
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    Day 10 update

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    Important note (179 lbs or +4 lbs in 10 days)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhuge67 View Post
    Day 10 update

    http://web.mac.com/chrisd7

    Important note (179 lbs or +4 lbs in 10 days)
    Just wondering why you are/were taking doses immediately after your workout? Has this proven to be effective for you?I always assumed it was kinda pointless. ne way good log so far.keep it up
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    I assume you're dosing ED? Also, have you noticed any warm feeling or almost flush feeling after your dose?
    I may be sensative to this compound but I noticed a warm feeling about 45 min to 1h after dose, and accelerated sweating off days (currently doing pulse cycle).
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    Quote Originally Posted by doluseb View Post
    I assume you're dosing ED? Also, have you noticed any warm feeling or almost flush feeling after your dose?
    I may be sensative to this compound but I noticed a warm feeling about 45 min to 1h after dose, and accelerated sweating off days (currently doing pulse cycle).
    I have not had any such feelings. Maybe you're extra sensitive to it in some way? And yes, I am dosing every day.

    I'm not dosing post workout, unless I work out in the middle of the day. Since the half life of the compound is 5-6 hours, I take 20mg pre workout and then 10 or 20 post.

    Since I bumped to 40mg just for one day (to test how it felt), I took 20mg in the morning, then 20mg about 4-5 hours later, and then worked out. I think it's best to have your full daily dose prior to the workout, if possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhuge67 View Post

    I'm not dosing post workout, unless I work out in the middle of the day. Since the half life of the compound is 5-6 hours, I take 20mg pre workout and then 10 or 20 post.

    Since I bumped to 40mg just for one day (to test how it felt), I took 20mg in the morning, then 20mg about 4-5 hours later, and then worked out. I think it's best to have your full daily dose prior to the workout, if possible.
    I see, my mistake. I just thought you were taking it right before and right after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superdrollover View Post
    I see, my mistake. I just thought you were taking it right before and right after.
    I was taking it pre and post, but that was only on the days where my workout fell in the middle of the day.

    To clarify, from now on, I'm going to take 20mg at 10 A.M. and 10 or 20 mg at 3:30 P.M. and work out from about 5-6:30.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhuge67 View Post
    I was taking it pre and post, but that was only on the days where my workout fell in the middle of the day.

    To clarify, from now on, I'm going to take 20mg at 10 A.M. and 10 or 20 mg at 3:30 P.M. and work out from about 5-6:30.
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    -http://web.mac.com/chrisd7/iWeb/Site/Havoc%20Blog/94861D8F-A105-4194-9808-95261D575DF3.html

    Day 12 - Update

    Iím writing this entry to track the fact that I have had some lethargy in the past couple days, with minor headaches too, especially at night. Now, I donít know if I can attribute this to Havoc or to 11-oxo (which I added in to my cycle at 3 caps per day). I would have to think that 11-oxo is the culprit, since Havoc didnít cause lethargy prior to my supplementation of 11-oxo.

    Itís nothing thatís so bad that I feel like stopping the cycle, but it is annoying. What Iím going to do now is test the supplements by taking them at different times; Havoc in the A.M., prior to working out, and 11-oxo around 6 P.M. This should reveal which supplement is responsible for the headaches, lethargy, or both.

    Iíll be adding in RPM by Applied Nutraceuticals to battle the lethargy.

    Thatís all for today, a ball-busting workout is planned for tomorrow (DEADLIFTS!!!).

    Chris
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    good luck man!

    keep updates up
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    Day 14 - end of week two


    Weight: 182 lbs! (up 7lbs in just less than 2 weeks!)

    Workout was lighter than yesterday’s, which was a 5x5 routine that included deadlifts, chest supported rows, weighted dips (75lb added to dip belt!), lunges, and leg press.

    Today’s workout (being lighter, and sort of a “feeder workout” for tomorrow’s heavy session) was bicep-focused, with some shoulder work, rehab, traps, and stretching.

    Towel-grip pull ups
    Chin Ups
    Barbell Curls
    Cable Curls
    Lateral and front raises
    Band pull-aparts
    Snatches
    Farmer Carries

    Tomorrow marks the beginning of week 3 on Havoc, and my dosage will go to 40mg a day from here on out. I’m excited about it and really think that if the first two weeks are any indication of how this cycle is going to go, then I’m in for some real changes in the coming 2-4 weeks. Most people’s Havoc logs talk about the 3rd and 4th week being the best as far as strength and body weight gains. I’ve already gained 7 lbs in the first two weeks, so if I can put on another 10, I’d be thrilled.

    Aesthetically, I’m looking alright. Definitely not as lean as I was, but part of that is my lack of cardio. However, I know I’m gaining some good muscle, since my strength is going up. I’m much harder and more dense than I was prior to the cycle. I also realize that to obtain my ideal physique, I must first obtain a not-so-pleasing physique, but then I’ll simply cut down and should look pretty good in the 180 range. My previous highest weight was 215 and it wasn’t a good 215. I lost 50 lbs to get to 165, and have been as low as 155. I know how to lose weight. So, worrying about a little fat accrual is not a big deal, since mentally, I know that I have the willpower to lose the fat if I need to.

    But for right now, a lot of this weight seems to be some quality muscle mass. I’m noticing it in my chest, back, and arms. What little fat I have gained is on my lower abs (oh well).

    So far, so good!
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    Mods, is there any way to move this into the Logs section? It seems out of place here....

    Thank you,

    Chris
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    On day 16 of Havoc use and yesterday’s workout was chest, grip, and abs. I actually bumped to 50mg and there were no issues with the significant increase. I’ll keep it at 40mg most of the time and may bump it to 50mg depending on how I feel. No side effects besides LBM gain and strength increases, so far.


    Flat BB Bench - 5x3 with 225 lbs
    Incline DB Bench - 3x8 (120, 150, 180)
    Pec Dec - 3x8 (180, 195, 225)
    Tricep Dips - 3x8 (bodyweight + 30, 40, 50)
    Decline Sit Ups - 3x25
    Ab-Wheel (barbell with weights as makeshift abwheel) - 3x10
    Grip exercises
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    Day 16

    Deadlift day, a day to rejoice, if for only a moment upon waking. For anyone who has a deadlift day knows that whatever kind of reverence one might have for the hallowed powerlift, it is only a short time away from that point when they will be doubled over in exhaustion. Maybe this is why we like deadlift day, if for only that moment. It never seems so bad in hindsight, but I secretly thank God that today is just a 75% of my 1RM....

    Weight: 181
    Havoc: 40 mg

    Deadlifts - 3x5 at 315, 3x3 at 315
    Weighted Pull Ups - Bodyweight 10, 8, 8, +20 lbs for 5x5
    Hamstring Curls - 3x8
    Reverse Hyperextensions - 3x8
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    Uhm, today I went into the gym for a second time with my little brother to take him through his beginner routine and I set up a bench and began to warm up. I felt good and I figured, "what the hell" and decided to work up to a 1RM. lol

    I put up 245 with ease. I stopped, even though I know I could have put up 265. Went into the locker room to check my bodyweight and the scale read 181.

    This compound works. I'm pretty impressed, especially given the price of it.
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    sounds like things are working out. thats great hopefully my epi run with phera will be just as good
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    Quote Originally Posted by nycste View Post
    sounds like things are working out. thats great hopefully my epi run with phera will be just as good
    Everything is great, minus the slight double chin. lol

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    Bumpdated: Havoc Blog
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    What's the lot number on your Havoc? Just wanna check.
    Also, are you noticing any signs of shutdown yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by doluseb View Post
    What's the lot number on your Havoc? Just wanna check.
    Also, are you noticing any signs of shutdown yet?
    Lot number?

    No signs of shutdown yet, as far as I can tell...i mean, my bits and pieces still work...
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    Lot: 23D307

    Why do you ask?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhuge67 View Post
    Lot: 23D307

    Why do you ask?
    Just checkin. I seem to be overly sensitive to this compound. Just wanted to check to see if it might just be a more potent batch, but mine is the same lot num.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doluseb View Post
    Just checkin. I seem to be overly sensitive to this compound. Just wanted to check to see if it might just be a more potent batch, but mine is the same lot num.
    What's it doing to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhuge67 View Post
    What's it doing to you?
    Get crazy sweats and body-temp changes. Though I don't get any of the other sides like back pumps or dry joints. Only other side I can say I noticed was some oily skin and a couple more zits.
    Also I should note that those "bad sides" come at 20mg doses. I can't even go up to 30mg
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    Quote Originally Posted by doluseb View Post
    Get crazy sweats and body-temp changes. Though I don't get any of the other sides like back pumps or dry joints. Only other side I can say I noticed was some oily skin and a couple more zits.
    Also I should note that those "bad sides" come at 20mg doses. I can't even go up to 30mg
    Wow, I've gotten away with 50 mg without problems...

    I do get some back pumps, but I kind of like them.

    The best side for me so far has been the ability to bench 275.

    A freaking 70 lb increase....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhuge67 View Post
    Wow, I've gotten away with 50 mg without problems...

    I do get some back pumps, but I kind of like them.

    The best side for me so far has been the ability to bench 275.

    A freaking 70 lb increase....
    The strength gains on it are def. sick. went up 40lbs in rows the first week. Next time though I think i might stack it with phera for some size since I can't go very high on the havoc anyways.
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    Squat day was yesterday:

    245x5x5 (coming back from an injury)
    Lunges with 60s in each hand x12 steps by 5 sets
    Step-ups x10 steps each leg with a 35 lb plate held above head
    Hamstring curls
    Beach work to finish
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    Deadlifts tomorrow
    5x3 then 3x3 for the heaviest sets
    Hamstring work
    Abs
    Shoulders

    I'll weigh in again too. I'm now onto my bottle of Epidrol, still at 40 mg a day. I'll do this for UP TO 4 more weeks, but might cut it short. I am kinda shut down, I think. No sex drive at all. My balls are fine though, lol, but I can tell that I'm just...let's just say that I'm glad I don't have a girlfriend right now.

    For PCT, I have Nolvadex on hand, as well as Retain 2 by Anabolic Xtreme, Carbolin-19 by Biotest, and IGF-2 by AN. I think I'll use IGF-2 in PCT, if that's okay.
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    Weight: 188 lbs (+13 lbs)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhuge67 View Post
    Weight: 188 lbs (+13 lbs)
    Great progress man. Keep it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doluseb View Post
    Great progress man. Keep it up.
    Thanks buddy.

    Only problem I noticed today was insane back-pumps during deadlifts. I did 3 sets of 5 reps at 365 and then 9 singles (30 seconds of rest between them) at 385.

    After deadlifting (which took about 25-30 minutes), I didn't have much left, so I just did one ab exercise and glute-ham raises.

    Edit: took 50 mg again today (20mg an hour before workout, 20mg half hour before workout, 10 mg after dinner). I'm a damn horse, as I don't have any sides other than a lack of sex drive. Does this mean I am effectively "shut down?

    I still have morning...err....morning wood. lol
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    Day 27

    DB Shoulder Press - 5x75s, (one set like this followed by sets with 1-2 minute rest in between) 5x65s pause 10 seconds then 4x65s, 5x75s, 3x80s, 5x75s

    Machine Press - 6x120 immediately followed by 12x60 immediately followed by 25 repsx30lbs

    Bicep Cable Curls - Same protocol as above 6x40, 12x20s, 25x10s.

    BB Curl - Same protocol 6x30lbs each side plus bar, 12x15lbs each side plus bar, 25x5 lbs each sode plus bar

    Dips - 5x5x80 lbs then 1x8 at 80 lbs

    Cable raises at light weight both lateral and front
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