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    I have some gyno from the past and whenever I use Intimidate, after about 3 days, my gyno begins to get sore. I discontinue use and it stops alomost immediately. Any ideas?
    NOT an IFORCE rep, but their new VMS Protean is amazing. I also dropped 15lbs on the testabolan2 and rev2 stack last month.

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    Hmm, I truly don't think its prolactin induced. Estrogen related gyno tends to form a hard lump under the nipple, sore to pinch. Prolactin causes more of a sore knot, not extremely hard like a marble. Prolactin tends to make the nips puffy as well.

    If it's prolactin based, something like lights out for the l-dopa + some vit b6 can help, and if its estrogen, you will love the new updated intimidate SRT that will be released

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    alright thanks. I am currently taking l-dopa twice daily. I am doing some low dose letro also to see if it helps
    NOT an IFORCE rep, but their new VMS Protean is amazing. I also dropped 15lbs on the testabolan2 and rev2 stack last month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbeef
    alright thanks. I am currently taking l-dopa twice daily. I am doing some low dose letro also to see if it helps
    Have you determined the source of your gyno yet.. prolactin or estrogen? Pramipexole may be better suited than letro.

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    no not for sure. I had been already taking ldopa. The gyno not is old. Doesnt grow any in size. just sore.
    NOT an IFORCE rep, but their new VMS Protean is amazing. I also dropped 15lbs on the testabolan2 and rev2 stack last month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbeef View Post
    no not for sure. I had been already taking ldopa. The gyno not is old. Doesnt grow any in size. just sore.
    When you pinch your nipple, just you feel a rock hard ball inside, like a frozen pea or something? Or more of a swollen knot?
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    I would say a swollet knot.
    NOT an IFORCE rep, but their new VMS Protean is amazing. I also dropped 15lbs on the testabolan2 and rev2 stack last month.
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    Intimidate SRT will completely eliminate this issue for you. Only another few weeks before its out
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbeef View Post
    I would say a swollet knot.
    The knot sounds more prolactin based. I would look into pramipexole if you are willing to go that route, although I can not suggest a source for you to obtain that.

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    what dosing would you recommend
    NOT an IFORCE rep, but their new VMS Protean is amazing. I also dropped 15lbs on the testabolan2 and rev2 stack last month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbeef View Post
    what dosing would you recommend

    Prami sides can suck.. but the libido boost is fun!

    I'd start at 0.5mg, and go to a max of 2mg SLOWLY if needed. Prolactin based gyno is very easy to prevent, but harder than estrogen based to treat IMO. Give it time.

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    alright I will give it a go and keep an eye out for the product coming out. I think Intimidate must definitely be a strong daa type product because I never have this issue while using daa powders
    NOT an IFORCE rep, but their new VMS Protean is amazing. I also dropped 15lbs on the testabolan2 and rev2 stack last month.
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    I've taken intimidate for four Weeks before, never had any problems..
    In four Weeks however, I did notice a big difference between daa and intimidate
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbeef View Post
    alright I will give it a go and keep an eye out for the product coming out. I think Intimidate must definitely be a strong daa type product because I never have this issue while using daa powders
    100X stronger, sounds about right, actually, truth.

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    I've heard of issues in past by other users of DAA products. Some bulk 1- carboxy or Prolactrone should so the trick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuffguy80 View Post
    I've heard of issues in past by other users of DAA products. Some bulk 1- carboxy or Prolactrone should so the trick.
    Good suggestions.

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    SNS Inhibit-P would be something good to look at but as Vaughn mentioned, once Intimidate SRT is released, there will be nothing to worry about!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PuZo View Post
    SNS Inhibit-P would be something good to look at but as Vaughn mentioned, once Intimidate SRT is released, there will be nothing to worry about!
    You just spilled the beans!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    Intimidate SRT will completely eliminate this issue for you. Only another few weeks before its out
    When is it gonna hit NP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post

    When is it gonna hit NP?
    I dont no the exact date but it should really be very very soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    I dont no the exact date but it should really be very very soon.

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    Ya, should be very soon, it's starting to get up elsewhere.
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    Quick question regarding this. Can SRT be combined with Inhibit-P? Would that pose any negative sides or is that ok? I have some lumps that I am pretty sure are E related but there is also some puffyness which leads me to think it could be both? I have not taken anything that is progesterone based (one tren product YEARS ago) but have run superdrol cycles in the past and have heard that has some progesteron qualities to it. Could be wrong though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwasserman View Post
    Quick question regarding this. Can SRT be combined with Inhibit-P? Would that pose any negative sides or is that ok? I have some lumps that I am pretty sure are E related but there is also some puffyness which leads me to think it could be both? I have not taken anything that is progesterone based (one tren product YEARS ago) but have run superdrol cycles in the past and have heard that has some progesteron qualities to it. Could be wrong though.
    i wouldn't imagine using both products being a problem at all, SRT will take care of your E, but some ppl claim something like DAA could increase progesterone i believe so it couldn't hurt imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    i wouldn't imagine using both products being a problem at all, SRT will take care of your E, but some ppl claim something like DAA could increase progesterone i believe so it couldn't hurt imo
    Thanks. Wasnt sure if this would do anythign like effect sex drive or potentially cause rebound in the future? I have real Letro on hand but haven't used it for those very issues. Also wasnt sure if there were any possible negative sides with doing both at once. I have also used Erase, Erase Pro and A-HD...is SRT that much better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwasserman View Post
    Thanks. Wasnt sure if this would do anythign like effect sex drive or potentially cause rebound in the future? I have real Letro on hand but haven't used it for those very issues. Also wasnt sure if there were any possible negative sides with doing both at once. I have also used Erase, Erase Pro and A-HD...is SRT that much better?
    imo they are very different types of products.....sure they both can increase test and work as AI's, but SRT also has other effects on recovery in terms of better sleep along with mood boosting effects that something like erase doesn't have, i dont' have any experience with erase pro or a-hd though
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwasserman View Post
    Quick question regarding this. Can SRT be combined with Inhibit-P? Would that pose any negative sides or is that ok? I have some lumps that I am pretty sure are E related but there is also some puffyness which leads me to think it could be both? I have not taken anything that is progesterone based (one tren product YEARS ago) but have run superdrol cycles in the past and have heard that has some progesteron qualities to it. Could be wrong though.
    Mike would know better how to answer this, but I would imagine Intimidate SRT and Inhibit-P could be used together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwasserman View Post
    Quick question regarding this. Can SRT be combined with Inhibit-P? Would that pose any negative sides or is that ok? I have some lumps that I am pretty sure are E related but there is also some puffyness which leads me to think it could be both? I have not taken anything that is progesterone based (one tren product YEARS ago) but have run superdrol cycles in the past and have heard that has some progesteron qualities to it. Could be wrong though.
    What are you looking to do? What is your goal? There is nothing wrong with inhibit p stacked with intimidate srt either.

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    Id like to see some reviews on this intimidate SRT. The AI used is comparable to Letrozole. If this is the case will libido issues arise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    Id like to see some reviews on this intimidate SRT. The AI used is comparable to Letrozole. If this is the case will libido issues arise?
    Letro's effects are far far far stronger IMO. I personally did not experience any libido loss, rather gained it during pct. But that is just me. I have not seen of or heard of any reports from users.

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    Hey Mike. My goal with combining both SRT with Inhibit P is to eliminate as much soreness and puffiness as possible while limiting sside effects like decreased sex drive and potential estrogen/prolactin rebound. Thanks.
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    in that case you may want to add dopadex in the mornings and take the inhibit p at night.
    that should take care of the puffiness.. not sure if it will affect the soreness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xR1pp3Rx View Post
    in that case you may want to add dopadex in the mornings and take the inhibit p at night.
    that should take care of the puffiness.. not sure if it will affect the soreness.
    Puffiness with be decreased this way, soreness will be decreased with proper estrogen balance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    Puffiness with be decreased this way, soreness will be decreased with proper estrogen balance.
    I wwent ahead and oordered the Intimidate SRT and Inhibit P 2 days ago. Will this help with both or should I also add in some Dopa?
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    hey mike .. do you know what if any effect progestin will have on estrogen levels... ie will the HTPA attempt to normalize progesterone by elevating estrogen?
    I really need to do more research on this as I really like things like tren and fall a little short in this area of hormonal manipulation.
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