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    Maximize v2 formula change, where is the methyl synephrine?


    So about two months ago I used some of the fruit punch maximize v2 that I bought over a year ago. This stuff is ridiculous. Gave me energy within 5 minutes. I felt like a machine during the workout and for hours after, with minimal crash. The combination of 1,3, caffeine, and methyl synephrine gave me unreal energy.

    I work at a vitamin shoppe and we recently started stocking maximize v2. I was really excited since this meant a nice discount, but then I look on the back of the ingredient panel and no more methyl synephrine. I thought i was misreading it so i took a look at about 10 different bottles delivered at separate dates and no MS in any of them. I see online retailers that still have it listed in the ingredients, but i now have my doubts. Has MS been taken out of maximize on more recently produced batches? If so this is a huge let down

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    wow... maximize was BETTER? dang... I always liked MS. Must have missed the memo that they were removing it.
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    Yes, way better. The new version without MS is just not the same. I mean its good, but the version with MS literally made you feel invincible, focused, euphoric and destructive all at once.

    I called nutra after seeing that on the website the ingredient panel listed MS as still there. They pulled out a bottle to confirm, but it was not listed on their bottle either.
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    Aww man... I guess this is what Dusty was talking about in that one video where he said iForce called him and said they are changing the maximize.... he said he stocked up on the old version lol. (Dusty is iForce's sponsored athlete)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Aww man... I guess this is what Dusty was talking about in that one video where he said iForce called him and said they are changing the maximize.... he said he stocked up on the old version lol. (Dusty is iForce's sponsored athlete)
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    it was before i became i rep, i THINK right around the time that dexaprine came out; but yes, MS was taken out of the formula, and replaced with theophylline
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldwanus View Post
    it was before i became i rep, i THINK right around the time that dexaprine came out; but yes, MS was taken out of the formula, and replaced with theophylline
    thats what i was thinking, wish i had known this was going to happen and had stocked up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldwanus View Post
    it was before i became i rep, i THINK right around the time that dexaprine came out; but yes, MS was taken out of the formula, and replaced with theophylline
    not MS related...and I realize it's a prop blend for a reason, but could you (or Vaughn) give a ballpark figure of how much 1,3 dim there is per scoop?
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    MS has been removed, but the compound that replaced it has an identical half life, and stronger stimulation properties...


    theophylline > methyl synephrine all day long
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    20-50mg


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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    20-50mg


    haha, nice! Tks! I'm gonna split the diff and say 35mg per scoop...just for (my own) kicks...
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    I think im buying another hemavol/maximize stack....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    I think im buying another hemavol/maximize stack....
    That's a good investment! I'm taking a break from MV2 and I can really feel the difference in the gym can't wait to get back on it!

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    1.5 scoops Mv2 + 1 scoop Hema + 5 caps XF.....Dy-no-mite!
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    I'm pretty sure hemavol plus XF would be some crazy ass pumps

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    MS has been removed, but the compound that replaced it has an identical half life, and stronger stimulation properties...


    theophylline > methyl synephrine all day long
    I'd have to agree.. I find the newer version far superior.

    To the guy who said dusty mentioned something in the vid.. I don't think that is what he was talking about.. keep your ears opened in the near future

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    Quote Originally Posted by StakedCop View Post
    I'm pretty sure hemavol plus XF would be some crazy ass pumps
    Uuuuuh-ya
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    xf being xf factor or xtreme formulations ice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JN230 View Post
    xf being xf factor or xtreme formulations ice?

    X factor most likely because of the ArA
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    Neutral opinions please on old vs new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JN230
    xf being xf factor or xtreme formulations ice?
    I'm thinking the ara cf!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin View Post
    Neutral opinions please on old vs new.
    since i started this thread I have tried the new a few times. even at two scoops I diddnt get the kick i got at 1.5 scoops of the old version.

    I felt like a cracked out invincible mutant on the old stuff which i kinda liked. there is less crash with the new though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darsh89 View Post
    since i started this thread I have tried the new a few times. even at two scoops I diddnt get the kick i got at 1.5 scoops of the old version.

    I felt like a cracked out invincible mutant on the old stuff which i kinda liked. there is less crash with the new though.
    When's the last time you cycled off stims?

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    Sounds like you're stim tolerant TBH. I can't stress enough that there are more mg of stims currently.


    Maximize Intense will be available soon which has more stims than either mxv2 or mxv2.1
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    Sounds like you're stim tolerant TBH. I can't stress enough that there are more mg of stims currently.


    Maximize Intense will be available soon which has more stims than either mxv2 or mxv2.1
    Exactly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    Sounds like you're stim tolerant TBH. I can't stress enough that there are more mg of stims currently.


    Maximize Intense will be available soon which has more stims than either mxv2 or mxv2.1
    I have somewhat of a high tolerance for stims but some products with similar amounts of stims hit me much differently. looking forward to trying intense. any idea on an estimated release date and price? can you give me any ideas on what will be in it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StakedCop View Post
    When's the last time you cycled off stims?
    i usually take two weeks off from stims every 6 weeks, seems not to do very much. last summer i took two months off from stims and when i used them again my tolerance had increased ironically
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    Quote Originally Posted by darsh89

    i usually take two weeks off from stims every 6 weeks, seems not to do very much. last summer i took two months off from stims and when i used them again my tolerance had increased ironically
    Have you ever tried reset ad or revamp. Dose it at 3 caps for a good 3 months. Will do wonders imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    Have you ever tried reset ad or revamp. Dose it at 3 caps for a good 3 months. Will do wonders imo
    used revamp for a month back in october. after a month of not using it i was back to normal tolerance. it did help while i was using it though
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    i agree with mike, buy 3 bottles of revamp, and take your first month off stims completely you need to reset yourself, I get geeked off 1 scoop of max v2 and will probably only take 1/2 scoop of maximize intense as the stims are stronger now. Good **** but you do need to back off the stims completely and dont SLAM back into a full scoop your first day back on

    1 month off
    start at 1/2 scoop
    continue to take revamp for 3months straight
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    Solving adrenal fatigue through supplements is a fallacy. Like transmuting lead into gold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    Solving adrenal fatigue through supplements is a fallacy. Like transmuting lead into gold.
    my adrenals are on the low end, acth is around 24.6. i think its related to some other issues im currently seeing an endo about
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    Quote Originally Posted by JN230 View Post
    xf being xf factor or xtreme formulations ice?
    Quote Originally Posted by liquid View Post
    X factor most likely because of the ArA
    yes, yes...XF being ArA/X Factor....

    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    Sounds like you're stim tolerant TBH. I can't stress enough that there are more mg of stims currently.


    Maximize Intense will be available soon which has more stims than either mxv2 or mxv2.1
    Nice! Will this still include 1,3 dim or an alternative stim compound?
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    will include the 1,3 Dim still
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    Quote Originally Posted by JN230 View Post
    will include the 1,3 Dim still
    Dmaa is pure win

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    Quote Originally Posted by JN230 View Post
    will include the 1,3 Dim still
    sounds good...can someone 'leak' the profile before it's released? <ahem>

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    Quote Originally Posted by JN230
    i agree with mike, buy 3 bottles of revamp, and take your first month off stims completely you need to reset yourself, I get geeked off 1 scoop of max v2 and will probably only take 1/2 scoop of maximize intense as the stims are stronger now. Good **** but you do need to back off the stims completely and dont SLAM back into a full scoop your first day back on

    1 month off
    start at 1/2 scoop
    continue to take revamp for 3months straight
    I actually run it for 3 months straight without Stims or close to it.. that's y I couldn't try dexaprime forever after it was released! We released it right after my last prep when I was in stim pct!
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    I am getting some Dexaprine today. Gonna eat them like skittles num num num. I am excited for the new pre though. Tried the new and truly enjoyed. Much cleaner ride...less punch and more of a creep up and suddenly your in it feel which I think helps subside any crash. Endurance is nuts, pumps are astronomical and the taste/smell is heaven. People need to be pumped! No pun intended!
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    Quote Originally Posted by th3futur3 View Post
    I am getting some Dexaprine today. Gonna eat them like skittles num num num. I am excited for the new pre though. Tried the new and truly enjoyed. Much cleaner ride...less punch and more of a creep up and suddenly your in it feel which I think helps subside any crash. Endurance is nuts, pumps are astronomical and the taste/smell is heaven. People need to be pumped! No pun intended!
    If you are going to eat them like skittles.. I suggest you do this sitting in the valet parking spot of your local hospitals ER with a few beta blockers in my hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    If you are going to eat them like skittles.. I suggest you do this sitting in the valet parking spot of your local hospitals ER with a few beta blockers in my hand.
    Or do it saving an innocent person around a group of attractive women so I die a sexy hero!
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