[SpargelJanusz]

Originally Posted by peteypab

Yea I'd be happy with 5-7 lbs in 50 days of LBM

Me, 2.

[3clipseGT]

Originally Posted by peteypab

Yea I'd be happy with 5-7 lbs in 50 days of LBM

You n me both my friend!

[swole210]

Originally Posted by VaughnTrue

i don't understand who told you Max-Out would give identical gains to the original 1-ad.

It can be compared to a hormonal cycle in the effects upon your body, as well as gains that will stress your natural capabilities. This isn't a 20lbs a month supplement, but AA users report 5-10lbs in 50 days, and 25R results in massive strength gains. I'm expecting realistic gains of 10-15lbs for users who eat/train properly while using Max-Out. And even more potentially, stacking it with Reversitol, and our newest product yet to be released.

HURRY UP AND GET THESE BAD BOYS OUT!!! I saw the Reversitol thread, and was like YEAH! Then I saw this thread and was like F*CK YEAH!! Then I was like....what about if I were to stack both?! Now I come on here and see that indeed it should prove to be one KILLER stack(as you mentioned that very stack in here). Can't wait till you guys put these bad boys out, so I can see what they do for me!

[VaughnTrue]

Originally Posted by swole210

HURRY UP AND GET THESE BAD BOYS OUT!!! I saw the Reversitol thread, and was like YEAH! Then I saw this thread and was like F*CK YEAH!! Then I was like....what about if I were to stack both?! Now I come on here and see that indeed it should prove to be one KILLER stack(as you mentioned that very stack in here). Can't wait till you guys put these bad boys out, so I can see what they do for me!

reversitol is out...max out should be here within 2-3 weeks, and product x shoul dbe here within 8 weeks tops

[SpargelJanusz]

Vaughn, I sometimes get the feeling that some board sponsors use this forum as a product launch pipeline - which is fine - but make claims or support those with evidence that is rather shaky or even shady. One example is Reversitol being hailed as "the world's most powerful hormonal regulator".

Do any of the products get real statistically valid tests? Not "I gave a sample to a friend, and he says it's a blast"!

[VaughnTrue]

Originally Posted by SpargelJanusz

Vaughn, I sometimes get the feeling that some board sponsors use this forum as a product launch pipeline - which is fine - but make claims or support those with evidence that is rather shaky or even shady. One example is Reversitol being hailed as "the world's most powerful hormonal regulator".

Do any of the products get real statistically valid tests? Not "I gave a sample to a friend, and he says it's a blast"!

I have posted blood work performed precycle, post cycle, and post pct using Bold200/Methadrol as cycle, and Reversitol as PCT.

"The worlds most powerful hormonal regulator" is a slogan for a product, designed by a company. The is no literal way to test this product against every other single product out there that contains similar ingredients. Our testing and results lead us to believe that it is the most powerful hormonal regulator. If you chose not to agree, that's fine.

[peteypab]

Originally Posted by VaughnTrue

I have posted blood work performed precycle, post cycle, and post pct using Bold200/Methadrol as cycle, and Reversitol as PCT.

"The worlds most powerful hormonal regulator" is a slogan for a product, designed by a company. The is no literal way to test this product against every other single product out there that contains similar ingredients. Our testing and results lead us to believe that it is the most powerful hormonal regulator. If you chose not to agree, that's fine.

We have some unsponsored logs I'll bring over here the feedback as it comes to show that it does work

[rxp1997]

Max-Out and Reversitol sound like one heck of a PCT....

for the Max-out, is it once a day dosing? I know its a prop blend, but it reads to me like with 1980mg in one dose, that is probably pretty close to the std 1g daily dose of xfactor? if twice a day dosing, will it exceed 1g of ArA (w/o divulging numbers)?

[VaughnTrue]

Originally Posted by rxp1997

Max-Out and Reversitol sound like one heck of a PCT....

for the Max-out, is it once a day dosing? I know its a prop blend, but it reads to me like with 1980mg in one dose, that is probably pretty close to the std 1g daily dose of xfactor? if twice a day dosing, will it exceed 1g of ArA (w/o divulging numbers)?

4pills/day, 1 upon waking, 2 pre-wo, 1 3-5 hours later

[rxp1997]

Originally Posted by VaughnTrue

4pills/day, 1 upon waking, 2 pre-wo, 1 3-5 hours later

does it put you over 1g of ArA?

[VaughnTrue]

Originally Posted by rxp1997

does it put you over 1g of ArA?

it puts you AT 1 gram of AA

[strategicmove]

Originally Posted by VaughnTrue;

it puts you AT 1 gram of AA

Sounds nice.

[VaughnTrue]

Originally Posted by strategicmove

Sounds nice.

we like to think so.


a full 1,000mg of AA, and large doses of both 25r and icarrin. how can you go wrong here?

[strategicmove]

Originally Posted by VaughnTrue;

we like to think so.


a full 1,000mg of AA, and large doses of both 25r and icarrin. how can you go wrong here?

One interesting aspect is the combination of Arachidonic Acid's enhancement of hormone and protein syntheses in skeletal muscle cells, with icariin's testosterone-mimetic action, as well as icariin's glucocorticoid antagonism (leading to enhanced testosterone levels via subdued cortisol release), its positive impact on luteinizing-hormone secretion, its prolactin-inhibition property, its indirect effect on enhanced protein synthesis (via elevated testosterone:cortisol ratios), as well as its positive impact on muscle contractions (via inhibition of acetylcholinestearase). These benefits of icariin supplementation, not even to mention its elevation of cAMP and selective inhibition of cGMP/PDE-5, are surely dose-dependent, so one would hope there is enough of the agent in a daily dose of Max-Out. Add these to the boost in protein synthesis triggered by 25R-Diol, and you get a potentially highly synergistic blend, with naringin extending the overall half-lives of the agents.

I would like to see users logging a stack of Max-Out and Testabolan.

[VaughnTrue]

Originally Posted by strategicmove

One interesting aspect is the combination of Arachidonic Acid's enhancement of hormone and protein syntheses in skeletal muscle cells, with icariin's testosterone-mimetic action, as well as icariin's glucocorticoid antagonism (leading to enhanced testosterone levels via subdued cortisol release), its positive impact on luteinizing-hormone secretion, its prolactin-inhibition property, its indirect effect on enhanced protein synthesis (via elevated testosterone:cortisol ratios), as well as its positive impact on muscle contractions (via inhibition of acetylcholinestearase). These benefits of icariin supplementation, not even to mention its elevation of cAMP and selective inhibition of cGMP/PDE-5, are surely dose-dependent, so one would hope there is enough of the agent in a daily dose of Max-Out. Add these to the boost in protein synthesis triggered by 25R-Diol, and you get a potentially highly synergistic blend, with naringin extending the overall half-lives of the agents.

I would like to see users logging a stack of Max-Out and Testabolan.

lol remember that you said that. trust me. you have NO idea yet bro...NO idea. lol

[strategicmove]

Originally Posted by VaughnTrue;

lol remember that you said that. trust me. you have NO idea yet bro...NO idea. lol

Remind me when the time comes. My memory can be leaky sometimes!