- 07-30-2012, 01:02 PM
In terms of Na-R-ALA, couple of things... not everyone is going to fit within that 300-600mg/day window. Dosing is, after all subjective. A 400# man more than likely wouldn't see any benefit from 300mg; true, too, that a 100# woman might be taking in too much with 600mg... So 300-600mg/day is a suggestion, but not necessarily the gold standard.
With our approach to the SS formula, the 200mg ALA offered in the formula, per day, is sufficient in both a glucose modulation and an anti-oxidant capacity. We didn't want to boost the amount because a) legit Na-R-ALA isn't cheap, and b) most people will dose it around their training time when the allowance of oxidative stress is actually good for your system.HYBRID Performance Nutrition
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- 07-30-2012, 02:10 PM
- 08-13-2012, 10:23 PM
How did the NFL players, who tried SSv2, respond? If I remember correctly, you said a couple guys gave it a shot, or were going to give it a chance.
08-14-2012, 12:59 AM
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08-14-2012, 12:48 PM
I highly doubt it. Will just be feedback no different than what you see on an average log but the testimonial will be from a proffesional athlete. These are not contracted athletes by Genomyx.. We simply partnered up with a company that has introduced us to these NFL players in hopes to build a long term relationship as a brand they will trust to help improve there performance.
08-14-2012, 12:57 PM
Gotcha. It would be nice to see Genomyx as a house-hold name.
I hope to see good feedback for you guys.
08-14-2012, 01:29 PM
Supposedly Chad Johnson was one of the selected athletes, and v2 may be responsible for him headbutting his fiance/wife
08-14-2012, 01:33 PM
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08-16-2012, 11:35 PM
I have been taking 1 capsule of SS before going to bed and have noticed what appears to be a "tighter" midsection when I wake up in the morning. Would you recommend doing the same with SSv2?
SSv2's label says to take 1 capsule with at least 25 grams of carbs. What if a meal contains 150 grams of carbs or more? Do I need to take 6 capsules? It seems a lot. How many grams of carbs does one capsule cover, minimum is 25, but what is the maximum?
08-17-2012, 12:01 AM
I have been taking SSV2 for a few Weeks now. I would say one cap effectively coverage 60-75 grams if carbs. For 150 grams I would take two caps.Originally Posted by John33
I have used it pre-bed a few times and definitely wake up looking more defined and vascular. This is very noticeable and very nice. You are going to love v2!
08-17-2012, 12:03 AM
It is not 1 cap per 25g of carbs. I eat 200g carb meals with 2 caps 20 mins prior. Then later 1 cap for an around 100g of carbs. I eat a lot of carbs and that dose is higher than what most will use (2 caps a day)
The pre bed dosing is an idea that the reduced bloodsugar/insulin sensitivity will allow for an increase in natural GH which is high during sleep. I have been playing with this. On days I don't work out I don't have my 200g (closer to 75-100g so 1 cap is good) meal so I take my third cap pre bed. I actually was surprised. I woke up dry as hell. It's still a newer idea regarding pre bed dosing.
08-17-2012, 12:14 AM
08-17-2012, 04:31 PM
I'd be interested in this as well as I have been doing IF ala Lean Gains for a few months with good results.
My last meal of the day is usually 8:00pm and I typically fast until noon the following day (i.e. 16 hour fast / 8 hour feed). I have both SS and SSv2 on hand.
08-18-2012, 10:42 PM
Just got my SSv2 and am pretty excited to start this - will be starting a bulk cycle Sept 1 so saving it for then. But I have a couple of questions:
1 - regarding the pre bed dose - My last meal of the day is around 10 pm and this is most times one of my heavier carb meals. I go to bed usually at midnight - so dose 20 min BEFORE this meal or wait 2 hours and take it prebed? Which would be more beneficial? Or could I dose one pre meal and one pre bed?
2 - I also have a stash of SNS TTA that I would like to stack with SS v2. Would this work? And how should I dose if I do decide to stack these?
Additional info - I train fasted in the morning, 5 meals per day, 1st meal around 11, then 1, 5 730, and 10. Carbs with every meal, however 5 pm meal and 10 pm meal tend to be carb heavier then the rest.
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08-19-2012, 01:00 PM
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08-19-2012, 01:50 PM
Slin Sane in the Membrane - Dewey99's Genomyx SSV2 Log
I felt great afterwards like I have just about every time I have taken SSV2 before heavy carb meals. Crashing 30 minutes after eating is a mystery to me since that most likely isn't enough time for your blood sugar to drop.
As far as a maximum dosage, I think 3 caps per day would be it. I have never taken more than 2 at one time or 3 in a day.
08-19-2012, 01:57 PM
Looks very interesting.
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08-19-2012, 05:49 PM
Dewey was correct. Sorry if I was unclear. I would not take less than 25g of carbs with ssv2 unless pre bed. I personally get very tired and lethargic with less than 50g carbs. You COULD use 2 caps if the meal is over 100g but you don't have to.
You should have protein and some fat with your carbs. We don't expect anyone to eat carb only meals with ssv2. I think the fact that you ate a high fat meal is what caused you to get tired. As Dewey stated it happened to him after crushing pizza.
08-19-2012, 06:19 PM
08-19-2012, 06:29 PM
I would take it before your meal. You will still be reaping the benefits by the time you get to bed.
I would also dose the SSv2 on your highest carb meals. That way it keeps you feeling better. Plus if they are both evening doses it will help you with also possibly reaping the "before bed" benefits.
Just my two cents. The other guys may have better advice than me. They've been at this longer than me!
sorry for the delay with this too btw!
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08-19-2012, 07:10 PM
08-19-2012, 08:02 PM
Sorry I must have missed your question. Thank you guys for answering her!
I would personally use it pre carb meals, if you wanted to add in one pre bed you could give it a shot. Defiantly more useful pre carb meals though.
08-19-2012, 08:40 PM
NOW's: one serving 1.5g white kidney beans.
Nature's Way: one serving (260 mg Gymnema extract (leaf), 75% Gymnemic acids, 50 mg Gymnema (leaf)).
USPLabs: one serving SuperCissus 1600 mg.
Doctor's Best: one serving Cinnamon (CinnulinPF) 125mg.
Doctor's Best: one serving Na-R-ALA 100 mg.
I have noticed that whenever I took Na-R-ALA, I would feel sleepy after a meal, despite the fact that the meal was pretty heavy on simple carbs (around 200 grams, maybe more). Maybe it is a combination of Na-R-ALA and other stuff in the SSv2, or maybe since I follow a low-carb/IF diet all week and only consume a lot of carbs on a weekend, maybe Na-R-ALA drops my blood sugar too much. Any ideas?
08-19-2012, 09:14 PM
Week 1 and 2 - 2 caps TTA
Weeks 3 and 4 - 2 caps TTA, 2 caps SS V2
Weeks 5 and 6 - 2 caps SS v2
Then possibly repeat this cycle depending on how it goes...
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08-19-2012, 09:44 PM
So tta is best suited before high carb meals rather than high fat meals?Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
08-19-2012, 09:56 PM
No, TTA is best suited for higher fat meals. I think it was suggested before the two higher carb meals based on the assumption that those would be the two biggest meals of the day period. If you are eating a clean diet, you might not have any high fat meals.Originally Posted by uvawahoowa
08-19-2012, 10:55 PM
08-20-2012, 08:56 AM
That's a ton of simple carbs to take at once, though, IMHO.
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08-20-2012, 10:22 AM
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08-20-2012, 01:37 PM
I thought it was pulled from the market? I guess that never panned out? Or is still in the process?
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08-20-2012, 03:01 PM
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08-23-2012, 11:35 PM
I have been taking 1 capsule of SSv2 before bed and can confirm that I need to get up around 5 a.m. (sometimes a little later) because I really need to go and a lot comes out. Any ideas why? I do not drink a lot of water pre-bed. It seems to works a little better then SSv1 in terms of making the midsection feel tighter in the morning.
08-24-2012, 08:20 AM
Users who have reported of this (two, that I know of, were getting up a few times/night) also report that it subsides over time.
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