dsade gtfih!!! (oral clen + eviscerate)

  1. dsade gtfih!!! (oral clen + eviscerate)


    Yes i've perused the clenviscerate thread, but so far i didn't see the answer to my question, and you're the guy to ask.

    6 weeks out from my comp, bulked late, could use a bit of extra help. I'm dosing clen for 6 weeks, 160mcg or so daily with 1ml keto nightly so i can run it straight. Picked up Eviscerate for my abs. Diet is obviously in check, cardio check, will oral clen + topical Eviscerate on abs really make a difference? I need the systemic fat loss, but i could really use a bit of extra help on the abs.

    Any help is VERY appreciated.


  2. Eviscerate will free a huge amount of fatty acids from the area of application. Those fatty acids will travel into the bloodstream and must be burned systemically. The oral clen (while not something I normally recommend) will definitely take care of the systemic burning.

  3. Why not topical clen with the evisc? Isn't that the purpose of Clenviscerate, topical application to lessen side effects?
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Why not topical clen with the evisc? Isn't that the purpose of Clenviscerate, topical application to lessen side effects?
    I've found eviscerate to be just as effective with any without clen. There is something I plan to add to eviscerate next time, which I think will be awesome. Will not go into detail about it, but dsade.. im thinking a form of prostoglandins that are normally injected, but in a topical application.

  5. Look up what Horse Chestnut (aka Escin) does. I already have that covered.

    2-series.

  6. Pharmacol Res. 2001 Sep;44(3):183-93.
    Aescin: pharmacology, pharmacokinetics and therapeutic profile.

    Sirtori CR.
    Source

    Department of Pharmacological Sciences, University of Milano, Via Balzaretti 9, 20133 Milano, Italy. cesare.sirtori@unimi.it

    Abstract

    Aescin, the major active principle from Aesculus hippocastanum (Hippocastanaceae) the horse chestnut tree, has shown satisfactory evidence for a clinically significant activity in chronic venous insufficiency (CVI), haemorrhoids and post-operative oedema. In one controlled trial aescin was shown to be as effective as compression therapy as an alternative to medical treatment for CVI. The therapeutic benefit is well supported by a number of experimental investigations in different animal models, indicative of clearcut anti-oedematous, anti-inflammatory and venotonic properties, mainly related to the molecular mechanism of the agent, allowing improved entry of ions into channels, thus raising venous tension in both in vitro and in vivo conditions. Other mechanisms, i.e. release of PGF(2) from veins, antagonism to 5-HT and histamine, reduced catabolism of tissue mucopolysaccharides, further underline the wide ranging mechanisms of the therapeutic activity of aescin. The excellent tolerability of aescin in the clinic indicates this treatment is of definite clinical benefit in patients with clinical conditions resulting in CVI, haemorrhoids or peripheral oedema formation.
    Copyright 2001 Academic Press.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Look up what Horse Chestnut (aka Escin) does. I already have that covered.

    2-series.
    This!!!!!!

  8. lol horse chestnut actually does something useful? I think we still have half a jar of that left from when my wife ordered it. (that and some ppine bark extract)

  9. Orally? meh

    I have a product using it orally, but it is NOT a central ingredient.

  10. that was my my thinkign as she didnt even finish it. (she stands all day at work in pretty much the same spot so her legs take a beating)

  11. Get her to apply SMOLDER to her lower legs.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Eviscerate will free a huge amount of fatty acids from the area of application. Those fatty acids will travel into the bloodstream and must be burned systemically. The oral clen (while not something I normally recommend) will definitely take care of the systemic burning.

    Could you shed any light on a dosage amount and scheme? I will be applying to the abdominal region and i hear tell you need to be careful to put a good amount of time in between application and working out that area.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam View Post
    Could you shed any light on a dosage amount and scheme? I will be applying to the abdominal region and i hear tell you need to be careful to put a good amount of time in between application and working out that area.
    Sorry, for liability purposes I can't help you. I would refer you to the Clenviscerate thread, or someone else can chime in.
  

  
 

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