Transdermal - useful for non-competition fat loss?
- 08-07-2011, 09:18 AM
Transdermal - useful for non-competition fat loss?
A quick question - I have seen many 'glowing' (get it?) reviews of Eviscerate Smolder however mostly for those competing in professional Bodybuilding and Body sculpting.
Would Smolder actually benefit me in my fat loss and leaning up alongside Alpha-T2 and Erase?
Thanks in advance.
- 08-07-2011, 10:09 AM
- 08-07-2011, 12:42 PM
08-07-2011, 06:01 PM
You don't have to be a professional to want more definition in some hard-to-lost-fat-areas
08-07-2011, 06:16 PM
Unfortunately being across the pond has massively limited the stores available to find Smolder. Hmm, some major Google searching is required!
08-07-2011, 10:59 PM
- 5'1" 121 lbs.
- Join Date
- Mar 2008
08-08-2011, 06:33 AM
Thanks Rosie! I am not naive enough to simply rely on the supplements as some might. I've made about 24lb loss of fat, and 8lb gain in muscle over the past 3 months with just HIIT, Weights supported by creatine and whey protein (and BCAA), so looking to further boost this. As I said elsewhere, i've made some damn good progress, but there is unfortunately stubborn fat around the abs and hips which needs to go - everywhere else is probably 90% toned. Once that surface fat has gone, I can begin building up!
08-08-2011, 06:39 AM
I cannot appear to get Smolder in the UK, however I can obtain regular Eviscerate - will that suffice? (is it more hardcore?!)
08-08-2011, 06:44 AM
You should be able to buy both in the UK through the main Genomyx distributor. I can't name the website but it isn't hard to find, they are at the top of most search engines.
08-08-2011, 07:04 AM
08-08-2011, 07:09 AM
I stand corrected, I thought they still had stock. If they have more arriving with Abliderate there will be some in a few weeks. Maybe the OG is the way to go!
08-08-2011, 07:17 AM
Sorry bdcc, not familiar with some of the abbreviations! What does OG refer to?
08-08-2011, 07:30 AM
OG is the original Eviscerate. It is supposedly about 15% stronger than Smolder but many people can't tolerate the burning effect on the skin which is stronger as well.
Try that, otherwise if you wait a few weeks you may as well buy Abliderate when it comes through which is what I will be doing as nobody sells a similar product in England (Taurus and Prototype don't have distributors here).
08-08-2011, 10:20 AM
VeeSix, I looked into this and found another site for you which sells it at a cheaper cost.
08-08-2011, 10:32 AM
- 5'1" 121 lbs.
- Join Date
- Mar 2008
Congratulations on your progress. Chances are, if there's "stubborn fat around the abs and hips", then it's the last place from your body that fat goes from, and you simply have to get leaner to lose it. Your NUTRITION is going to play the biggest factor here. If you're already relatively lean, then a topical can help.
08-08-2011, 10:56 AM
08-08-2011, 10:58 AM
oddly, I notice it more with smolder
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08-08-2011, 03:09 PM
Smolder was formulated incredibly well and is just about as effective as the OG. The OG has a more intense sensation, I haven't tried Smolder personally but I am very much looking forward to trying it. Both are incredibly effective and very well received by users, whether professional competers or anyone looking to work specifically on some areas!
08-10-2011, 07:32 AM
Would you characterize the feeling as more of a sting than burn?!
08-11-2011, 09:29 AM
If your referring to the OG, I'd say its more of an intense warm sensation than a sting. I haven't tried Smolder yet but I have heard it has a more mild sensation.
08-11-2011, 09:37 AM
I applied a bit more this morning, and it definitely was warm !!
I have to apply it in a ventilated room as the fumes off the Eviscerate really does take your breath away and makes you cough.
08-11-2011, 09:49 AM
I am watching your Eviscerate journey so please keep up the updates. I am waiting for Abliderate to make it's way over here but if Eviscerate impresses me I might get that in the interim.
08-11-2011, 11:21 AM
Unfortunately I cannot add links to photos, or photos directly of progress (due to post count, but i'm working on that!).
Day 1 - After morning shower, applied Eviscerate. Noticed NO burn/heat effects, but it did sting. Applied second use at 7pm. Noticed that the area became itchy (like a rash-like feeling - but no redness or soreness, so no allergic reaction).
Day 2 - After shower, applied Eviscerate. I applied more than usual, and so far - had the heat sensation pretty much all day on abdominal area - no sensations on hip fat (love handles).
Perhaps a combination of Eviscerate, Alpha-T2, Erase and healthy diet but i'm losing around 0.7lb per day. Muscle mass doesn't seem to be effected at all. Once this leaning phase is complete, I would consider bulking up/getting more muscle mass. This product so far is one I would continue use if the physical sensation is one that continues.
On both days so far, I have had to use the Eviscerate in a well-ventilated room as the fumes really do catch your breath. I do not have asthma or any breathing issues and have no known allergies to anything (except Sharks, but that is another story).
08-11-2011, 01:08 PM
OG and SMOLDER will be arriving in approximately 10 days in the UK.
08-11-2011, 01:09 PM
Abliderate as well, but he only ordered 100 units.
The Advanced version will be making its way over there in about 8 weeks.
08-11-2011, 02:28 PM
Advanced Abdliderate? What is the difference between that and the basic version?
08-11-2011, 02:29 PM
It's more advanced.
08-11-2011, 02:36 PM
VeeSix, it is very kind of you to offer to log it. I wouldn't ask someone to do that, it is a big favour! It is very kind of you to offer though, thank you.
Matt, I wasn't around for Abliderate before and don't know the strength of it systemically. Do people suffer from joint issues or other signs of low cortisol when this is used on it's own or stacked with something like Erase?
08-11-2011, 02:38 PM
Abliderate is not systemic, but uses the Unmatched Avant Localized Topical. There are no systemic side effects, only suppression of 11b-HSD locally in the ab region.
08-11-2011, 04:12 PM
What would you say is better for shifting Ab fat - Eviscerate (OG) or Abliderate?
08-11-2011, 04:16 PM
Assuming you are talking about Subcutaneous fat, definitely Eviscerate.
08-11-2011, 04:31 PM
Interesting! Is that due to the potency of Eviscerate?
bdcc - I have used Eviscerate alongside Alpha-T2 and Erase and have no side effects with joint related issues. Despite common sense seeming that any dermal application would eventually be moved to the blood/lymphatic system, I can say that it doesn't seem to have occurred so far.
08-11-2011, 04:48 PM
Or do what I do and use both. Cortisol control+the SAT killing power of Eviscerate.
Can't wait to see what D has cooked up with Abliderate advanced.
08-11-2011, 06:49 PM
08-12-2011, 07:12 PM
Day 3 - Yowser.
Had the burn sensation all night and even after my shower the next morning for about 2hrs afterwards!
I applied when the burn stopped. I also found out that scratching you ears/balls will result in the burn even if you washed your hands 4 times after application. I have now invested in several pairs of disposable gloves to avoid this unique experience.
The combination of my stack and Eviscerate is trimming away my abdominal fat (the jiggly stuff,as put above). On tensing up, more ab muscle definition is becoming apparent (from solid fat to 2-3 differentiated areas). Even better is the physical prodding as it feels like the layer of fat is being reduced very fast.
Only downside (aside from burning hot testicles - oops!) is that the burn sometimes turns to an itch, but only for 10-15mins after application.
I've reduced lifting for now, and focussing more on HIIT and simple compound exercises to shed the fat. Once this is achieved, I will continue on Eviscerate but change my stack to stims/testboosts.
08-15-2011, 07:56 AM
Update to Day 5...
Wow. The burn continues after and during a shower; at night when the duvet is over you, the burn starts again. I have needed to reduce the shower temperature as the areas of application become hyper-sensitive, virtually amplification the perceived temperature of the skin there. This is purely sensation as the actual temperature is far less than perceived.
At Day 7 I will upload some shameful before/better after (week progress) pics.
I've found that it does indeed stain the matress cover, so may need to invest in another shower pre-bed. Also noticed it appears to come off in tiny bobbles - after a night's sleep, the bed is covered in a layer of tiny orange/brown balls which can just be brushed off. Don't know if this is dead skin or the solution itself.
So far I can state that the burn sensation took 1 day to take effect, but since then, it does indeed flare up.
08-17-2011, 10:41 AM
The product contains several thickeners that can combine with dead skin to form the little balls. A good exfoliation will not only increase effectiveness but reduce the amount of slough off.
08-17-2011, 10:50 AM
My Eviscerate is on the way. Naturally I acted proudly and thought "it can't burn me that much!" No Smolder for me, let's see if I regret that decision.
08-17-2011, 10:59 AM
08-17-2011, 11:10 AM
That is very kind of you to say so, thank you. My avatar is an old photo, I had a shoot last week when I came in looking much sharper.
I am due for a second meeting with a specialist modelling agency who supply the majority of cover models to Men's Health magazine so it is an excuse to spend a bit more on the fat loss side of things. I would like Eviscerate to help tighten me up a bit but think it might interrupt my sauna dehydration judging by what you say lol.
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