How do you guys put up with BS!????
- 12-13-2007, 04:10 PM
How do you guys put up with BS!????
Alright, Im kinda feeling pissseed right now. I know what an all bodybuilder looks like. I just hit up bb.com and I seem to come across people who claim that they are "all natural"
How on earth do you deal with people claiming that they are all natural when you obviously know that they are not?
I HATE I dont know why but I just HATE people claiming that they got huge off just sleeping and eatting. Now, I know that to an extent your body will grow with proper diet,sleep and training but this is retarded!
I just found another reason not to hit bb.com.
You go there and you see insanely big dudes claiming to be all natural at 19 years old. Let me show you guys what I mean.
I don't know why it upsets the crap out of me but it does. For some reason It upsets me when learners strive to aim for some mass and they take their advice from people like this. They tell them oh just eat a lot. It gives false hope to those. Uggg I don't know whats more retarded, this kid claiming to be all natural at 19 or the idiots at bb that believe him. That is all. (rant over)
- 12-13-2007, 04:17 PM
Not to say you're wrong, but one of my buddies freshman year of college was big like that kid. He had a HUGE chest, 18-19" arms, and the rest of him was pretty big too, on a 5'10 frame. And he was all natural, although he'd been lifting since he was 12 with his father (also naturally big). He was actually pretty poor growing up so his "supplement" was skim milk, a gallon a day.
But I understand where you are coming from. There are guys who are so obviously on some form of steroid that its not even funny and they'll deny it to their dying day. Its a self-image issue, they feel the need to be that big to impress girls/other guys, but because of the bad stigma steroids have they'll refuse to admit they use. Just the way it is.
- 12-13-2007, 04:18 PM
I'm sure people lie but its hard to say. The kid in the pic has large arms and shoulders but that appears to be it. I went to high school with a dude that barley ever lifted and was ripped and had large arms. It would be easier if their was other pics. What is his height and weight?
12-13-2007, 04:19 PM
It is what it is I suppoe but I would be careful about what I admitted on an open forum that I also posted my picture on. At 19 you don't know what you'll end up doing in life that statements like "I cycled X" could close doors you needed open.
12-13-2007, 04:24 PM
true, but it's just amazing because of the fact that someone can claim their all natural. I dont really have a problem if you juice and you dont boast about it but this kid is posting up pictures claiming he's all natural.
It's a bit different when someone approaches you in the gym and ask you and when you post a pic up on a forum. It just makes my blood boil when someone like this claims that they are all natural. You guys should see his shots with the pro's.
His arms are almost as big.
12-13-2007, 04:26 PM
what's the problem? I'm Natty.
Stop visiting sites that make you mad. When an internet forum has the power to upset you in your day-to-day life, you need to reevaluate where you put your energy.
I do admire your sense of truth and justice though. I'm the same way in face-to-face situations.
12-13-2007, 04:36 PM
I put so little faith in people to tell the truth I guess that's why things like that don't bother me. I'm a jaded old fool though
12-13-2007, 04:43 PM
12-13-2007, 04:44 PM
12-14-2007, 08:26 AM
A lot of people will gear heavily then go 'natural'. So he technically may be natural now but not before.
Hell, Ronnie Coleman could go natural this very day !
12-14-2007, 08:27 AM
12-14-2007, 08:40 AM
How do I put up with BS? I avoid people who are full of BS.
Don't visit bb.com. Love your self for what you are, me confident that you hold your own niche.
Don't lower your self for your ego.
12-14-2007, 05:53 PM
12-15-2007, 10:40 AM
12-15-2007, 10:52 AM
Hell - I'm on BB.com right now.
There are a lot of people on there - most of them I don't take seriously. There are some genuine people on there though.
You have to wade through that.
12-15-2007, 10:53 AM
I'm all natural.
12-15-2007, 06:28 PM
12-15-2007, 06:31 PM
Can't say it bothers me, he seems to think being thought of as "natural" is important. Personally I think it means very little.
12-15-2007, 07:25 PM
12-15-2007, 11:04 PM
guess what it was that finally pushed me from 145 all those years workin my ass off in high school to 170 within 6 or 7 months of graduating????
EGG NOGG/WHEY/CREATINE MONO AND SLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP, frickin went from maxing a 135 flat bench @145lbs up to 275x2 flat max all by myself @170lbs. all the while i maintained skinny status
the right calories at the right time and alot of sleep will get you way farther then you think especially if you are naturally a skinny boy with a good metabolism.
Last edited by poopypants; 12-16-2007 at 02:43 AM.
12-16-2007, 12:02 AM
12-16-2007, 03:34 AM
those were mid summer after i graduated and those pics were like feb-march (not sure exactly) and i was struggling to break 170.
i was stuck there for a while mostly cause i was working out on and off and had started working full time so didnt have as much time to devote to lifting and resting until summer 2004 when i kicked it into high gear but still couldnt break 175......
THEN i ran like 2 unsuccesful M1T cycles (right before i turned 21) where i gained and lost 10lbs cause some guy told me bout it and the most "extreme" i had gone till then was MRI's NO2 and wanted to try something else but at the time i didnt know what i was realy doin and only took 6-oxo (1bottle) for pct and would lose most my gains.... then i found the boards and realized all that i was doin wrong....
then i hit up SD and did this in like may 2005.... still couldnt break 180 though.....
and then hit up PP in september and was at 190
and then i hit up TRN in nov with litte change to size but gained huge strength......
then i went through some **** and dropped off the planet but made a comback with epi this last march where i went from 165.2 w/bad gyno to 179 lbs practically gyno free....
gained another 5 lbs during pct bringing me to 184
then this last summer after trying propadrol it started flaring my gyno (from SD cycle) so i salvaged the cycle and ran epi and dbol and got back to my heaviest ever @195
and then got laid off back in august and im back down to 180 again and NOT very toned.... its all good though
12-16-2007, 03:36 AM
12-16-2007, 03:37 AM
12-16-2007, 08:49 AM
12-16-2007, 09:05 AM
i suppose when Jay Cutler or other pros say they are natty you get offended? Its the same thing almost but i see where you are coming from. If i knew the guy personally and knew that he was taking steroids but still stuck with his natty claim then i would be irratated, for the fact that you cant man up even when its obvious. Since you dont know him you never know, he could be natty...
12-16-2007, 12:48 PM
12-17-2007, 03:43 AM
12-17-2007, 08:05 AM
I wonder how much he could hold onto with 5 years natural...
12-17-2007, 12:07 PM
12-17-2007, 01:20 PM
12-17-2007, 01:29 PM
12-17-2007, 03:11 PM
how long ago did you run the epi, and did you notice any rebound at all? ive heard maybe one case (so far) of delayed rebound, but thats about it.
12-17-2007, 04:05 PM
12-17-2007, 04:27 PM
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