Dinosaurs in the Garden of Eden...
- 06-02-2007, 09:20 AM
I think this thread has deviated too far from the original topic; did Dinosaurs exist alongside man? One of the more interesting topics to be delved into is that of the "Thunderbird", which is sometimes described as being a giant, but typical looking bird, and other times described as distinctly reptilian.
The info is out there for the open mind, waiting to be discovered.
- 06-02-2007, 01:07 PM
If you guys want a black and white answer, you are not going to get it that easily. Welcome to the grey world of REALITY. Deal with it.
06-02-2007, 01:48 PM
I'll never enter this argument. Why? Both sides are trying to prove the unprovable. Both pick what makes more sense to them, and this is largely based on what their parents taught them, what their professor said, or even more straight forward, whether they are religious or not.
We don't know ****. I believe there may be plenty of things out there, a whole different dimension, that science can't fathom, and so is ignored by science as old wives tales, fiction, and so on. I think we all will have our minds blown someday; clearly both sides are missing huge pieces of the puzzle, and the truth lies somewhere in between. Until then...
06-02-2007, 03:01 PM
06-03-2007, 07:28 PM
Just found this gem on the Museum:
"Over 800 scientists in the three states surrounding the museum -- Kentucky, Indiana, and Ohio -- have signed a statement sponsored by NCSE reading, "We, the undersigned scientists at universities and colleges in Kentucky, Ohio, and Indiana, are concerned about scientifically inaccurate materials at the Answers in Genesis museum. Students who accept this material as scientifically valid are unlikely to succeed in science courses at the college level. These students will need remedial instruction in the nature of science, as well as in the specific areas of science misrepresented by Answers in Genesis."
06-03-2007, 07:52 PM
06-03-2007, 09:52 PM
I am curious though.
Do you have a personal issue or have you had an event that has challenged your belief system or the faith you may or may not have?
Do you have a desire to find out what everyone else thinks before you make a decision of your own on the matter of your faith?
You have succeeded in sparking up the debate. But I wonder if you had an other motive behind your inquiry. After all you have not contributed anything other than generating the debate.
06-03-2007, 09:59 PM
wow this thread got kinda heated. everyone should just worry about what they believe in and not give the guy next to him $hit for not agreeing.
in the end we will die alone and either go to Heaven or just cease to be. but life is toooooo short to fight about weather there is a God or where we came from.
06-04-2007, 01:14 AM
Let me show you the real danger of choosing the wrong religion...
Comedy Central : Motherload
Last edited by DR.D; 06-05-2007 at 01:29 AM.
06-04-2007, 08:48 AM
06-04-2007, 12:33 PM
I have a personal issue but no events per-se have taken place. I have been on the fence about religion for my entire life. The scientific side to me doesn't want to believe many of the things the bible says, yet it's hard to ignore the possibility of something or someone having a hand at the creation of what's around us. Maybe a "god" or possibly some type of force.
I'm not basing what everyone else thinks on what I believe, just looking for more things to consider. Things I haven't thought about.
Again, I do not have any sinister motive for bringing this debate up. I don't even like to think of it as a debate, but more of a discussion. I hope things do remain civil.
06-04-2007, 01:02 PM
06-04-2007, 01:02 PM
06-04-2007, 01:07 PM
The thing about God (consider He does exist) is that it is a relationship with your creator. Religion, religiousness and religious people do not necessarily have a personal and intimate relationship with God. They have religion and all of it nonsense. I religiously smoked pot for 20+ years. I would not necessarily call that a edifying relationship. I'm sure you follow my metaphor.I have a personal issue but no events per-se have taken place. I have been on the fence about religion for my entire life.In here lies the challenge really, and you are not alone. I as a Christian sometimes let me head start leading me and forget to walk in faith: Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.The scientific side to me doesn't want to believe many of the things the bible says, yet it's hard to ignore the possibility of something or someone having a hand at the creation of what's around us. Maybe a "god" or possibly some type of force.There is no harm in curiosity.I'm not basing what everyone else thinks on what I believe, just looking for more things to consider. Things I haven't thought about.Never thought you had sinister motives. Discussion is good. Civility in the discussions sometimes is absent.Again, I do not have any sinister motive for bringing this debate up. I don't even like to think of it as a debate, but more of a discussion. I hope things do remain civil.
06-04-2007, 01:17 PM
06-04-2007, 01:20 PM
06-04-2007, 01:22 PM
its said to be a pterosaur.. they are a bunch of people saying they still see these things today
On April 25, 1977, the Japanese fishing ship Zuiyo Maru, trawling for mackerel off the coast of New Zealand, snagged a rotting corpse at a depth of 900 feet and hauled in the remains of a beast that no one anywhere seemed to be able to identify.
06-04-2007, 01:29 PM
06-04-2007, 01:40 PM
there is also a good amount of artistic evidence made by our "pre historic" and more modern humans that show the eating habits of some dinosaurs. Usually people say that they drew what they saw in the terms of the dead dino in the rock; however, they could not have knows which dinos ate meat and which did not... but in the drawings.. they do
06-04-2007, 01:43 PM
06-04-2007, 01:45 PM
I don't give that many people that live in our world today that much credit, that they would know what eats what by looking at teeth. We eat meat but by the looks of our teeth, we shouldn't maybe.. i dont know it could be a bad example but i just think humans are naturally stupid
06-04-2007, 01:50 PM
06-04-2007, 03:16 PM
06-04-2007, 03:31 PM
Why does it say God created world in six days, when technically time didn't exist. Answer: so people would be able to wrap their minds around it. Those six days in the Bible can easily be 6 million or 6 billion years. Just because God created this world doesn't mean evolution doesn't exist. But humans didn't evolve from a single cell and as far as know science failed to prove how life occured on Earth without God or where did everything come from? And don't tell me it was a "BIG ****ing BOOM barabing."
06-04-2007, 05:51 PM
06-04-2007, 05:57 PM
06-04-2007, 06:11 PM
I know you are being sarcastic, but I answered anyway...
06-05-2007, 01:56 AM
Divine favoritisms for life (aka: providence) has to be an inherent character built directly into the fabric of the universe because random events only result in compounded entropy, not increased order! If that were true, why don't you dig a hole in the ground and find a fully developed clock or stopwatch from time to time? It just doesn't work that way, that's why! Don't you think if man has been here long enough to develop naturally, something far less complex with far fewer moving parts like a stopwatch would have developed first? Yeah, statistically is should have, that's why only a fool says there is no god, duh!
Science fails to prove how life occurred on earth without God, but it does support that God is in fact the cause and demonstrates that it really could not have occurred otherwise.
06-05-2007, 10:33 AM
How is it that 93% of the National Academy of Science do not believe in a god, and TOTALLY accept evolution?!
Why is it that since we're god's children and he created everything for us...why did he stick us on this small planet in this huge cosmos?
Seems like a waste of space!
06-05-2007, 10:40 AM
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