Dinosaurs in the Garden of Eden...
- 06-04-2007, 12:45 PM
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06-04-2007, 02:31 PM
Why does it say God created world in six days, when technically time didn't exist. Answer: so people would be able to wrap their minds around it. Those six days in the Bible can easily be 6 million or 6 billion years. Just because God created this world doesn't mean evolution doesn't exist. But humans didn't evolve from a single cell and as far as know science failed to prove how life occured on Earth without God or where did everything come from? And don't tell me it was a "BIG ****ing BOOM barabing."
06-04-2007, 04:51 PM
06-04-2007, 04:57 PM
06-04-2007, 05:11 PM
I know you are being sarcastic, but I answered anyway...
06-05-2007, 12:56 AM
Divine favoritisms for life (aka: providence) has to be an inherent character built directly into the fabric of the universe because random events only result in compounded entropy, not increased order! If that were true, why don't you dig a hole in the ground and find a fully developed clock or stopwatch from time to time? It just doesn't work that way, that's why! Don't you think if man has been here long enough to develop naturally, something far less complex with far fewer moving parts like a stopwatch would have developed first? Yeah, statistically is should have, that's why only a fool says there is no god, duh!
Science fails to prove how life occurred on earth without God, but it does support that God is in fact the cause and demonstrates that it really could not have occurred otherwise.
06-05-2007, 09:33 AM
How is it that 93% of the National Academy of Science do not believe in a god, and TOTALLY accept evolution?!
Why is it that since we're god's children and he created everything for us...why did he stick us on this small planet in this huge cosmos?
Seems like a waste of space!
06-05-2007, 09:40 AM
what is space, or a large amount of space to someone or something that has no need for it.
06-05-2007, 09:52 AM
06-05-2007, 10:01 AM
Dog and Cat Theology...
was in the news. A friend found an old newspaper clipping from March 2004 on a Missouri Baptist University Spring Lecture Series on "Cat and Dog Theology". The seminar thrust was to challenge postmodern thought that interprets the Bible only through personal experiences. (In defense of postmoderns, has a credible hermeneutic such as using Scripture to interpret Scripture been consistently taught in the plethora of church movements and fads, Bible studies and Christian books that flood the evangelical market?)
The seminar described two Christian viewpoints with a dog and cat metaphor. The dog is described as believing, "You pet me, You feed me, You shelter me, and You love me. You must be God." Whereas the cat's intrinsic belief is described as, "you pet Me, you feed Me, you shelter Me, and you love Me. I must be God."
Gerald Robinson, one of the speakers, stated, "The average true believer says the Bible is all about God, but lives as if humanity is...Humanity often replaces God on the throne." Bob Sjogren, co-authored with Robinson, challenged the listeners to switch from "me-ology" to theology. Theology being accurately described as the study of God in Scripture that reveals God to be the main character and not humanity.
From Genesis 1:1, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Man doesn't even enter the world stage until the 6th day when with his life companion in hand, he and she very quickly begin to egocentricize the harmony of the garden to that of meeting their felt needs.
Genesis 3:6, "When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it."
Good, pleasing, and desirable--now there are some words of personal experiential interpretative standard, for sure. I'm not dinging personal experiences because obviously God gives those too, He is the sovereign One. He knows the frailty of our physicality and allows events to occur that like a child touching a hot stove or feeling a mother's caress, remind us in our flesh of the power of His hand. However, when personal experiences in this case, or in any other, were, or are, held only to that of man's wisdom, a limited entity, and not to God's wisdom, an unlimited and infinite entity, trouble happeneth. And it still does today.
Personal experience as an interpretative standard alone, without Scriptural parameters of God's instructions, from His Word, fails. "He who trusts in himself is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom is kept safe." Proverbs 28:26
God alone must be the study in our -ology. "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight. Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord and shun evil." Proverbs 3:5-7
But here's my question, what do you think God feels thinks about herding cats?
A Complete Thought...: Dog and Cat Theology...
P.S. don't act like a pussey....cat
06-05-2007, 10:10 AM
maybe it is all for us. maybe we just have a very hard time thinking outside of our little brain. I think half the fun of our collective life and lives is getting to the point where we can do anything and everything..but first we have to grow.
06-05-2007, 10:19 AM
I already told you, God is the ultimate liberal! It seems like overkill or waste of space to your limited understanding, but it's really just a testimony to the glory of God. He did it just to blow you away. He did it this way just because He could and to show you who He is. You even resist that though and it's the most obvious of His signs!
06-05-2007, 10:38 AM
I've said this somewhere else:
what would the earth/universe look like if there wasn't a god?
EXACTLY THE WAY IT LOOKS NOW!
You (religious people) have to make up excuses as to why a loving god allows suffering, attrocities, natural disasters, birth defects, etc...
If there wasn't a god these things would happen and you'd have to except them, not justify a reason for why...
06-05-2007, 10:51 AM
free will gives us a bunch of awesome feelings, but it also lets us suffer. take the good with the bad..
06-05-2007, 11:54 AM
06-05-2007, 12:02 PM
God never said he would protect our bodies. God's creation is not the human body, its the light and soul with in us. that is what is created in "his" image.
Body is a body, if it dies, hippy, it dies. It is suppose to, its just a matter of how.
06-05-2007, 12:12 PM
06-05-2007, 12:18 PM
After John Paul's assination attempt, they had him riding around in the pope-mobile, bullet-proof glass and all. The comedian said, "if the pope's affraid to die, what's that mean for the rest of us"!! Kinda funny, but makes you think too!
06-05-2007, 12:19 PM
God has no desire for our religiousness but rather our faithfulness. There is confusion, very obviously, about what religious people believe is serving God and what faithful people know is serving God. Get the facts straight, it's in the manual: http://www.biblelookup.com/cgi-bin/p...ubs=+Next++%3E
14. Mar 7:6
And he said unto them, Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoreth me with their lips, But their heart is far from me.
15. Luk 12:56
Ye hypocrites, ye know how to interpret the face of the earth and the heaven; but how is it that ye know not how to interpret this time?
06-05-2007, 12:24 PM
people are misinformed and that is why they credit things to god when god really has nothing to do with it.
i don't know of many people that are religious that think the after life is bad unless they think the after life is sectioned off for good, bad, not so good, and not so bad people. It depends on the religion. Catholics have guilt so they don't want to, born again welcome but only after a life of worth, muslims want to blow themselves up and worship death more than life and long for death..the reality is that we are light beings inside flesh. it doesn't matter at the end of the day who we are or what we do, we will always be us even after the body falls.
but the human animal has a strong will to live and it does everything it can to maintain like any other animal would. the Shivo case is a political matter which has nothing to do with our divinity
06-05-2007, 12:37 PM
I agree with some of that but
It does matter what we do.
"Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age."
Then he will answer them, `Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.'
And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets."
Edit: Of course this assumes that you believe that the Bible is the word of God
06-05-2007, 01:15 PM
Are the Greeks in hell since they didn't believe in A god?
06-05-2007, 01:19 PM
06-05-2007, 01:47 PM
06-05-2007, 03:03 PM
06-05-2007, 03:13 PM
Well...yes, probably. God's going to take you when he wants, won't he? Shouldn't matter to take any precautions.
06-05-2007, 03:29 PM
06-05-2007, 04:58 PM
06-05-2007, 05:01 PM
06-05-2007, 05:09 PM
06-05-2007, 05:16 PM
Originally Posted by B5150
"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist."
Apparently it's not working so well...being that 70 + % of the U.S. believes...maybe he's just fooling the Middle Eastern Folk...
06-05-2007, 05:17 PM
06-05-2007, 05:24 PM
You sound like no matter what you do, the outcome will be the same...
06-05-2007, 05:27 PM
whichever, no I don't...
I've been in two major car accidents (5x rollover, head-on collision) and wasn't wearing a seatbelt in either (oops! yes, I've learned!) and besides my back, I'm fine.
In the rollover, the driver (who was religious) broke his neck, had his scalp sliced off and was in the hospital for 3 months...I emerged from that with literally a "scratch."
06-05-2007, 05:32 PM
Why is it, when a "good" person dies young, people will say it was God's will, or it was his/her time, or God had other plans for him/her. It would seem that if God has a plan for somebody, taking survival precautions wouldn't matter, god is going to take you when he wants and not before.
Do people die that god didn't plan for? Do they get to heaven and god says, "hey, what are you doing here?".
I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, don't take it that way. Just asking questions.
06-05-2007, 05:38 PM
I was in one bad accident too, no seatbelt, no airbags but I didn't get hurt, cops couldn't believe that I just walked out on my own, they still sent me to the hospital and couldn't believe when doctors told them there's nothing wrong with me. I didn't believe in God back then either...
06-05-2007, 05:41 PM
06-05-2007, 05:46 PM
Thanks for that...
Why is it, when a "good" person dies young, people will say it was God's will, or it was his/her time, or God had other plans for him/her.
Because in most cases it is not true. It wasn't God's will, but this is what Bible teaches and they don't know any better, but believe that's the case.
Do people die that god didn't plan for?
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