Does not ejaculating increase NATURAL TESTOSTONE LEVELS?
- 11-28-2006, 12:44 AM
Does not ejaculating increase NATURAL TESTOSTONE LEVELS?
A few years ago i read an article saying that if you "withhold" for 7 days, then ejaculate on the 7th day testostrone levels increase 50 more, so that equals 150% testostrone levels.Any research to back this up?
I notice when i go a few days of withholding i seem to be hyperfocused and i get a whole lot more done.
- 11-28-2006, 06:30 PM
I heard that witholding can be bad for test levels.
- 11-28-2006, 07:36 PM
Actually, the testosterone boost comes 7 days after the last ejaculation. There was a study on it, but I'd have to do some digging to find it...
11-28-2006, 07:49 PM
WOW so that means 7 days after I die my test levels will sky rocket
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11-28-2006, 08:29 PM
Even God rested on the 7th day guys!
11-29-2006, 12:08 AM
Lol thats funny bro. So If you want higher Testostrone Levels, which is always a big benefit in bodybuilding, release, then dont ejaculate for 7 days and they skyrocket?Originally Posted by CROWLER
Ive heard that opposite that you dont ejaculate for 7 days then do it then Testostroen levels soar to 150 %?
Im thinking its the latter but now ive heard both. i guess either way works. so you can do this both ways. Well i want to see the research behind this. But dont have too, im willing to give this a shot for extra testostrone levels. I have done it once before a few years ago. and let me tell you it MIGHT, i cant remember make you cranky, and then again it disiplines your mind, which is a goodthing so ill take the disicpline over making me cranky. lol
11-29-2006, 12:51 AM
It is every 7th day. Testosterone levels drop after ejaculation, but Testostorone levels rise daily to maximum on the 7th day. They will begin start dropping on the eight day even if you don't ejaculate and heading down. It is probably part of the reason our weeks are 7 days long. Sorry, I don't have a copy of research either.
11-29-2006, 05:13 AM
Ya I' ll just have to take they're word for it on this claim. The truth is out there...but whats the point?(haha)Originally Posted by CROWLER
11-29-2006, 07:46 AM
lol- wait, I thought maybe your body liked to have a certin amount of sperm "on hand" (punn intended), so so by having your test levels drop (actually, I think you just produce more aromatase enzymes),producing elevated estrogen/prolactin (oh, interesting, the prolactin release may ensure that you replenish your energy levels to ensure survival...) producing a greater amout of GH, thus leading to a greater amount of LH to be outputted, to replenish test and sperm levles??????
so the cycle goes..
"The deed" --> aromatase/estrogen---> GH increase---> LH increase--->test/sperm replenishing
-ok, ok, so I made that last part up with out any scientific backing (in a single study at least)..
lol- ever wonder why you sleep soooo much better after you get some?
11-29-2006, 09:56 AM
11-29-2006, 10:55 AM
After the 7th day, the peak occurs, how long was the elevation? If the elevation is only for 1 day, that hardly seems worth it.
Now, if that peak was maintained from day 7 on, until ejac, then you essentually would double your test for as long as you could hold out.
However, the study mentions that:
Ejaculation is the precondition and beginning of the special periodic serum testosterone level variations, which would not occur without ejaculation. The results showed that ejaculation-caused variations were characterized by a peak on the 7th day of abstinence; and that the effective time of an ejaculation is 7 days minimum.
"No regular fluctuation was observed following continuous abstinence after the peak"
I beleive this is means that your load is only good about 7 days minimum. So, of you wrestle the bald headed champ on Monday, then the following Monday (withholding) you'd get a nice test spike.. but that would only be good for a little bit, as to "replace" your boys on the front lines becasue your troops are restless.
11-29-2006, 12:13 PM
Doesnt seem worth it to me.
I dont like waiting 7 hours, so forget about 7 days.
11-29-2006, 12:17 PM
Damn son, that's one hell of an analogy A+I beleive this is means that your load is only good about 7 days minimum. So, of you wrestle the bald headed champ on Monday, then the following Monday (withholding) you'd get a nice test spike.. but that would only be good for a little bit, as to "replace" your boys on the front lines becasue your troops are restless.
11-29-2006, 01:05 PM
Man, I don't believe any of you would actually consider such a thing. There's a point when you just have to go to the gym, eat good and go on with your life outside this ****.
11-29-2006, 01:18 PM
Lol- what do you think?Originally Posted by smblkolds
there's just no way I could last 7 days, for a few hours of elevated test
That being said, I'll also purposely get myself all heated, to get my test levels up (along with aggression) before I workout....
(this is just how it works out, not done purposely for that though :P - )
11-29-2006, 02:45 PM
Thats funny. I've actually had that happen to me with my wife coming down to the basement (home gym) and "bothering" me during a workout, so I agree that the agression goes up. Just don't take it too far, if you know what I mean because after that, workout over. Nap time. LOL.Originally Posted by xtraflossy
11-29-2006, 03:11 PM
lol- yeah.. cept I have to leave the house to go to the gym,.... the tight pieces I see at my gym don't make things any better :POriginally Posted by smblkolds
Although, I usually find that I have to run out t ogo to the gym casue I spent to much time downloadin' ... :P
lol- I also make my girl wait for me to get back. There are 2 rules I guess..
No swimming for 45min after eating,
and no sex 1 hour before going to battle!:bruce1:
11-29-2006, 04:13 PM
Didn't it make George Costanza super smart?
11-29-2006, 05:54 PM
In the grand scheme of things, a 50% increase in testosterone isn't very much from an anabolic perspective.
11-29-2006, 06:28 PM
Cool. Remember Testostrone Levels do increase minimal days 2-5 the study says. Like some one said in the other thread this is very useful for competetion.:bruce1: Many Boxers in the past have done this i beleive. It takes practice but if your single and want to get more focus i highly promote it.
And for God's Sake if you going to get some dont tell her you need to withhold.
Originally Posted by Mass_69
11-30-2006, 05:14 AM
Thanks for these finding's Mass. My hat tips to you. So this is how it works after reading the PDF study.
after day one Testostrone level's raise an average of 6.8 %. which in the non-abstaince group showed no increase at all
day 2-5 only slighty rose
day 6 a 10 % increase
day 7 a 25 increase.
Add this all up and it equals almost 50%. Like 47. something on average. Probally the better your diet is the more itll raise. remember this is average and the levels flucuated between 117 and 198.
Question: After day seven Testostrone levels decline, whether you ejaculate or not? is this right?
Do they decline back to normal? Thats what i would think.
so the best way to use this formula is too not mastervate for 7 days, know almost the exact time you ejaculated , seven days proir, your test levels will be on average 50%, but thats also debatable and could be more studies deeper into this, high all day long on the 7th. Ejaculate about the same time you did a week proir. Repeat as desired. Is this understanding correct?
and you dont have the ejaculate after Seven days if you dont want too. Like i said ive done it one-time a few years ago.
Originally Posted by Mass_69
11-30-2006, 09:32 AM
I would say that there is no "best way" to use this formula..Originally Posted by smeton_yea
Honestly, you know your body goes through hormonal fluxuation when "excited" in preparation for gettin some,... and those I beleieve include freeing up test.
Getting laid daily would seem to provide a better approach IMO. Better for the soal............. and some stuff
11-30-2006, 10:35 AM
Reps, PleaseOriginally Posted by smeton_yea
As far as the fluctuation, I'm just worried that if Test levels decline after you "go", if going too often would keep Test levels lowered to a degree
11-30-2006, 12:24 PM
goddamn us bodybuilders... i have now heard just about everything being cycled... from steroids to dextrose to vitamin C to masturbation.
11-30-2006, 12:40 PM
I dont like going without TnA, so to heres some things that piss me off.
People completely unaware of thier surroundings esp when im behind them in the grocery store/ dont get between me and food.
People who dont have any amount of control over their children and dont seem to care im about to spank them.
Any buisness who emplys people to serve me by being rude and condescending/ ill put them in their place.
The government and all the red tape for fathers who deserve rights with their chinldren, but instead get garnisheed and shafted.
Anyone who lives off "the system" ie. unemployed, never employed whatever.
If you have animals and you let them run your house and void wherever they see fit to no consequence, im like "let me teach that fker alesson he'll never forget."
Any one who gives their opinion about anything they know nothing about. "If you wanna tell me about being single unemployed and useless i wont interupt, if you wanna hear about supplements and working out just you shut your mouth and get a clue"
WOW my test levels have risen due to having to relive my daily nightmare of idiocracy.
keyra augustina (try google) gets me fired up for the gym.
11-30-2006, 12:58 PM
Maybe someone will post a log haha. I'm not volunteering for this experiment. If I go one day without an "emission" i feel on edge, 7 would be torture.
11-30-2006, 01:34 PM
**** withholding, Id rather put 750mgs of test in my butt everyweek!!! (Call me jayhawwk!)
My The 1 LOG: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/254164-my-one-log.html
11-30-2006, 03:14 PM
I must negative test levels then....Originally Posted by smeton_yea
11-30-2006, 03:33 PM
What happens if you whack off 4 times a day to fat chicks, will your one arm get buff or do you bring in leftie. lol
11-30-2006, 04:36 PM
If it did my left would look like Lee Priests arm. Lol. JK.Originally Posted by somewhatgifted
Come to think of it, my left IS a little bit bigger than the right.
I would have to think that doing it all the time couldnt lower test levels TOO much cuz if it did then you wouldnt have the desire to keep doing it so much.
12-02-2006, 02:16 PM
with-holding doesn't really matter when you're on some Test. Hell, I can't go any less then twice a day when I'm on. I sometimes think BBing is made more complicated then it really is. It just isn't practical to hold on to your load that long. I think this idea should be as comical as Fizogen's strap LOLOriginally Posted by motiv8er
12-29-2007, 02:19 AM
12-29-2007, 03:40 AM
This would be the most hilarious log ever
Day 1: Rubbed one off at 7pm - here we go!!
Day 2: Not bad, horny, but manageable...
Day 3: Gettin' tougher, can't make eye contact with any girl w/o a rock hard one
Day 4: 40-year-old virgin style bo*** ALL DAY
Day 5: Screw this log I need some porn!!
12-29-2007, 02:35 PM
So, if I inoculate say, 10 times a day I'll get gyno?
12-31-2007, 10:29 AM
12-31-2007, 11:51 AM
This is by far the stupidest thing I've seen in relation to elevating testosterone production. Smeton almost joined the likes of Saluu the Monkey
12-31-2007, 12:14 PM
Regular ejaculation is good for a health prostate....
01-17-2008, 12:14 PM
01-18-2008, 12:02 AM
Why jack off any way? Kabbalah is very explicit about the negative spiritual side-effects of masturbation. The idea is as follows: Your seed is the material by which you procreate; it is the genetic material within you that allows you the opportunity to partner with G-d. Rebbe once told his students: "I don't expect you not to sin because you don't want to; I expect you not to sin because you don't have time to"
keep your mind busy with holy thoughts so that you don't have time to think of anything unholy.
Don't read magazines, newspapers, watch movies etc that have images of immodest things which will get your mind working in the wrong direction. Rather read holy books, and go to sleep reading such books
01-18-2008, 12:50 PM
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