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when a person isn't searched after an arrest. Don't watch with kids near please. It is a suide by gun of a individual who had already killed a police officer.

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It was one of several media sources used during a class on proper searching of suspects and nonsuspects but they are being transported in a police vehicle.
 
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Damn, that was pretty weird. The Officer was like, oh well, I guess he won't be needing this bottle of water.
 
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When I saw it the first time it ****ed me up. But i'm also devasted when animals get killed.
 
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When I saw it the first time it ****ed me up. But i'm also devasted when animals get killed.
And im freaked out when I first saw your new avatar.

Seriously, if he already killed one cop i'm surprised he didnt shoot any more under interigation before killing himself.
 
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That's why it's used as a training video because of just that.
 

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Very interesting. It's extremely hard to believe that he could get away with having a gun that easily. The cops got away with a very careless mistake, he could have shot that cop and he would have never saw it coming. Crazy stuff indeed.
 
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Yes it is. I've seen that one before and the hell you have to feel to take your own life...I hope I never come to that level of desperation or depression.
 
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Budd Dwyer, Penn. State treasurer. Filter actually wrote a song about him, "hey man nice shot".

I watched this one when I was young, about 14 or 15. It was the only video on Faces of Death that made me actually leave the room after watching it.
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That original video was interesting. That cop must've been a little releived, when he heard the gun pop off, only to find that the criminal had taken himself out. Crazy. :run:
 
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You can tell it was a LA cop by the immediate coffee grab.
 
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And that's one the things I lve about cops. Gallows humor. I'm just naturally that way, for them it's a way of dealing with all the nasty **** they see. But it still gives me and them some common ground.
 
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Budd Dwyer, Penn. State treasurer. Filter actually wrote a song about him, "hey man nice shot".
That was a great tune...
 

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Look around on that site at the other stuff, their was a series of pictures of a women in high heels stomping a kitten to death! Apparently their are sicko's out there that are into this new fetish. As an animal lover this pisses me off and sickens me that someone could be so cruel to an innocent creature.
 
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I can't even watch it. I had to shoot a rabid raccoon. I'm glad there are grocery stores or I would have to be a vegitarian.
 
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I can't even watch it. I had to shoot a rabid raccoon. I'm glad there are grocery stores or I would have to be a vegitarian.
Same here. I grew up on a farm, and worked with animals all the time. People would be surprised at how intelligent cows really are...if I had to slaughter them myself I dont think I could eat beef.

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I can't even watch it. I had to shoot a rabid raccoon. I'm glad there are grocery stores or I would have to be a vegitarian.

I get freaked out when I see a person die. I could never in the military or anything like that. However, I dont seem to care one lick about people killing animals (as long as they are food and/or a threat to someone)
 

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See i'm a real animal lover so i can't stand ppl abusing/killing animals but i can watch people get killed no problem, call me sick. Isn't it interesting though that when someone get's killed in a movie it's WAYYYYY more gruesome then in real life. Like if the clip posted here was a scene in a movie the officer's face and body would be covered in blood and guts and their would be no head left on the body. Maybe i can watch these videos no problem because i love horror movies and have literally seen it all.
 
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I dont know man Ive seen some pretty sick-ass videos and pictures on-line of people getting killed, it turns my stomach. I hate seeing people or animals killed, except when they deserve it.
 

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Ya i've seen some sick **** too, i'm not saying it DOESN"T bother me, it's just different with animals, i get ANGRY when i see ppl killing animals. When i see a person get killed i'm normally just grossed out.

Consider this, back in the 70's soldiers in the U.S. were asked if they would kill for their country, of course everyone said yes, but a lie detector showed that only 70% were telling the truth. Now they use video game simulations to recruit ppl and they've done the same quiz, guess what, 90%+ said they would kill and ACTUALLY would. This is a different generation nowadays and not much shocks anyone anymore.
 
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I've been military and both animals and people clips like this still bother me a good bit.
 

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The guy in this video did not actually kill a cop, he thought he did the cop he shot earlier had survived. I wonder if he still would've topped himself if he realized this.

Calif. Man Shoots Cop Then Kills Self While in Custody

SAN BERNARDINO: The sheriff says he wasn't searched properly. The suicide was videotaped.

By TIM GRENDA AND IMRAN GHORI / The San Bernardino Press-Enterprise

MUSCOY, Calif. -- A man who shot and wounded a San Bernardino County sheriff's deputy during a traffic stop in Muscoy on Friday morning killed himself an hour later while alone inside a sheriff's interview room with a pistol he apparently sneaked into the building, officials said.

Sheriff Gary Penrod said officers failed to adequately search the man, identified by the San Bernardino County Coroner's office as Ricardo Alfonso Cerna, 47, of San Bernardino.

The deputy shot during the traffic stop, Mike Parham, 31, is in critical but stable condition and is expected to recover, officials said.

In an extraordinary move, a 13-minute surveillance-camera video that included footage of the man's suicide was shown by the Sheriff's Department to reporters, the leaders of local Latino groups and officials from the Mexican consulate to quash any questions regarding the department's treatment of Hispanic subjects.

The video shows Cerna pulling a .45-caliber handgun from his pants and firing one shot into his left temple.

"The best way to dispel any rumors was to have the media view this tape," said Undersheriff Bob Peppler.

The video, which sheriff's officials said was unedited, begins with Cerna being brought into an interview room where Sheriff's Sgt. Bobby Dean uncuffed him and had him sit in a chair in front of a table.

Cerna, looking tired and disheveled, only spoke briefly and in Spanish, replying to questions from Dean.

He leaned down on the table on his right arm for much of the time, occasionally rubbing his head, his nose and eyes with his hand, and coughing a few times. His eyes were downcast, only looking up a couple times when speaking to Dean. He responded with a short, tired laugh when Dean asked him the Spanish word for wallet and he responded " cartera."

At one point, Dean took Cerna out of the interview room for about four minutes to have his fingerprints scanned electronically. The man was brought back shortly because the machine wasn't working at the time, officials said.

Shortly after they returned, someone brought in a bottle of water and a cup of coffee for Dean. Dean stepped out of the room, leaving Cerna alone.

Cernasat down with his back against the wall, took the cap off the water bottle, took two gulps, and put the bottle down. He started breathing heavily, pulled a large handgun from the front of his pants with his left hand and shot himself in the left temple.

The video ended with an expletive from Dean off camera.

Search called inadequate

Penrod said deputies failed to adequately search Cerna before he was put in a car, and again when he was transferred to the homicide division office. Each receiving deputy may have wrongly assumed the previous officer adequately searched the man, he said. Names of the arresting officers were not released.

Ron Martinelli, a police consultant and legal expert on law enforcement cases, said by phone Friday that the man should have been searched twice, stripped of his clothes, and put in a jump suit before he was ever put into an interview room.

"If they do a good search, and take his clothes, and put him in a jumpsuit, there's no problems of him not being handcuffed," he said.

Martinelli said 38 percent of all officers killed in the line of duty since 1980 died as a result of not doing a search, or doing a poor search, of a suspect.

Penrod said confusion among the three agencies involved - the Highway Patrol, San Bernardino police and the Sheriff's Department - may have contributed to the oversight.

"Obviously there was a mistake made," Penrod said by phone Friday. "It was hectic and it was a guy who was cuffed by somebody other than the transporting officer.

"Now we've got some procedural issues that we need to address - where did things go wrong," Penrod said. "I'm just glad this guy didn't kill anybody else and that our deputy is going to make it."

Traffic-stop shooting

Parham, the deputy shot by Cerna during the traffic stop, was in critical but stable condition with a wound in the abdomen that damaged his liver, stomach and lungs, Penrod said.

The injuries are not believed to be life-threatening.

"He'll be home by Christmas," the sheriff said.

Parham, a deputy since 1998, was shot twice at about 9:30 a.m. at the intersection of California and Adams streets in Muscoy, northwest of San Bernardino, said sheriff's spokeswoman Robin Haynal.

He was struck once in the abdomen and once in his bulletproof vest and taken to Loma Linda University Medical Center for surgery, she said.

The shooting unfolded after Parham tried to stop Cerna's white 1980 Nissan at the intersection of State and Adams streets, officials said.Cernawouldn't pull over, and Parham gave chase for about a minute along Adams Street until the suspect's car crossed California Street, jumped the curb and came to a stop, officials said.

As the deputy approached in his squad car, Cerna leaped from his vehicle with a large-caliber handgun, officials said.

He shot at the front of the deputy's car, hitting the windshield and then the hood, continuing to fire as he ran past the driver's side of the car where he blew out the side window, sheriff's spokeswoman Cindy Beavers said.

Beavers said she didn't know the exact number of shots fired.

Parham wasn't able to get out of his car or fire back, officials said. He did radio for medical help, they said.

School put on lockdown

The scene of the shooting is south of California Elementary School, which was in session at the time, school officials said.

"At the time of the shooting there was a class outside participating in one of their PE lessons," said Linda Hill, spokeswoman for the San Bernardino City Unified School District. "Those students hit the ground as their teacher directed."

The campus was put on lockdown immediately following the shooting. Counselors were sent to the school to talk to both staff and students, Hill said.

After the shooting, Cerna attempted to run inside a house on Adams Street, but the resident ran into the house and locked the door, said sheriff's deputy Lt. Rick Carr . Cerna then ran through the back yard to a house on Mesa Street.

Sergio Quintero, 21, and his nephew, Roberto Deharo, 11, were sitting inside the garage when Cerna walked through the open door and offered $10 for a ride.

Quintero told the man he had no car and couldn't give him a ride. Cerna then asked for a shirt and Quintero gave him a black T-shirt bearing the picture of a snake.

Cerna also asked for a rake and shovel, which he took out into the front yard.

Quintero said he thought the situation was "weird," but didn't know that police were looking for the man.

But while Cerna was out front, Quintero noticed police officers in his back yard and asked if they were looking for someone. He said he then told them about the suspect in the front yard.

The police came out front, pulled their guns and told the suspect to get on the ground, Quintero said.

"They told him to stay down and don't move," Quintero said. "He laid on the ground and they handcuffed him."
 
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As CDB already pointed out, cops need coping mechanisms for dealing with the horrors they may witness. My buddy's dad is a State Trooper, and he and his colleagues would refer to people in traffic accidents as "Tomato Heads". The other alternative is to fully confront the gruesome, sad truth. It may be tough to do your job if you can't stop thinking about this dead guy's family that is mourning him.
 

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oh man these videos **** me up for a few days but i really cant help but watch them.

and that animal cruelty stuff pisses me off....i saw one where a guy took a sledge hammer to a pup's head, and it has alive......some people make me absolutley sick.
 
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Ya i've seen some sick **** too, i'm not saying it DOESN"T bother me, it's just different with animals, i get ANGRY when i see ppl killing animals. When i see a person get killed i'm normally just grossed out.
The circumstances of what happens has a lot to do with how I react. In that suspects case, well he did it himself; sad and kinda shocking. Animal cruelty to me, is altogether different. I could never be a soldier just because the enemy is usually just some other dude fighting for his country. On the other hand I hope I never personally witness someone taking a sledge to a puppy or stomping kittens cause I would probably end up incarcerated.
 

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crazy i work about 5-10 min from where this happened the muscoy area in san bernardnio is a big ****hole lots of gangstas and crackheads running around in a ghetto improverished neighborhood i hate that place.
 

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you can hear the blood pouring out of his head man....gross, but their is much worse out their.
 
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See i'm a real animal lover so i can't stand ppl abusing/killing animals but i can watch people get killed no problem, call me sick.
Same here, LoL. I have little problem watching people die - especially if it's a choice by suicide (Faces of Death, etc), but I get into a frenzied rage at acts of cruelty against animals. It's not that I don't value human life...I just don't seem to see people the same as most other people.

Ironically - I hate hitting someone - go figure... I blame tv, LOL.
 

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