The Mystery of Declining Male Testosterone??

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Dustin07 View Post
    I disagree 100%. It could be regional differences we are seeing, though.
    I'm in NYC. First time I've heard that masculinity is taboo. Even amongst women here, there's a whole movement where "strong is sexy" is the new catch-phrase and more and more women are picking up power-lifting and hardcore training.

    Full beards, tattoos, fitness, motorbikes, pretty much the in thing here, yet more and more people are also being very open and supportive of the LGBT community... but being supportive has nothing to do with masculinity being taboo.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Outofbody View Post
    I'm in NYC. First time I've heard that masculinity is taboo. Even amongst women here, there's a whole movement where "strong is sexy" is the new catch-phrase and more and more women are picking up power-lifting and hardcore training.

    Full beards, tattoos, fitness, motorbikes, pretty much the in thing here, yet more and more people are also being very open and supportive of the LGBT community... but being supportive has nothing to do with masculinity being taboo.
    lol...funny story!!!

    thanks for the laugh....
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    lol...funny story!!!

    thanks for the laugh....
    What's funny? Any particular reason you feel like being a dick today? I'm listening

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Outofbody View Post
    What's funny? Any particular reason you feel like being a dick today? I'm listening
    Masculinity is a pet peeve of SJW. See it in some left wing media, academia, etc. Propagates male stereotypes and subordinates women. Strong is sexy could be a female phrase except for the beard part as the other aspects fit women as well.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by UCSMiami View Post
    Masculinity is a pet peeve of SJW. See it in some left wing media, academia, etc. Propagates male stereotypes and subordinates women. Strong is sexy could be a female phrase except for the beard part as the other aspects fit women as well.
    The generalizations/bias are strong with you. Bringing the term SJW into this now? Funny seeing people who don't live here claim what you're claiming. I am, as are most intelligent people, very supportive of diversity. What in the heck does this have to do with masculinity.... Again, I'm listening and open to intelligent debate.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Outofbody View Post
    The generalizations/bias are strong with you. Bringing the term SJW into this now? Funny seeing people who don't live here claim what you're claiming. I am, as are most intelligent people, very supportive of diversity. What in the heck does this have to do with masculinity.... Again, I'm listening and open to intelligent debate.
    Dude you just insulted me. I was explaining why Bigt wrote what he did and you went all woman on me.

    You know the irony....hahaha

  7. Quote Originally Posted by UCSMiami View Post
    Dude you just insulted me. I was explaining why Bigt wrote what he did and you went all woman on me.

    You know the irony....hahaha
    You literally just said that intellectuals have a pet peeve against masculinity. I said this is a strong generalization, which it is. I'm still waiting for an intelligent reply.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Outofbody View Post
    You literally just said that intellectuals have a pet peeve against masculinity. I said this is a strong generalization, which it is. I'm still waiting for an intelligent reply.
    What I wrote is correct. If you have no exposure or awareness it is not my fault. As for intelligence you dumped on people here. Folks here will avoid you like the plague you are.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Outofbody View Post
    The generalizations/bias are strong with you. Bringing the term SJW into this now? Funny seeing people who don't live here claim what you're claiming. I am, as are most intelligent people, very supportive of diversity. What in the heck does this have to do with masculinity.... Again, I'm listening and open to intelligent debate.
    diversity is like alcohol...a little and you are fun and outgoing too much and you are just a drunk.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by UCSMiami View Post
    What I wrote is correct. If you have no exposure or awareness it is not my fault. As for intelligence you dumped on people here. Folks here will avoid you like the plague you are.
    Keep up the generalizations and assumptions. I'm not here to make friends - I'm here for info and to share info... Certainly not to make friends with people who live their lives with bias.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Outofbody View Post
    Keep up the generalizations and assumptions. I'm not here to make friends - I'm here for info and to share info... Certainly not to make friends with people who live their lives with bias.
    Ok dude. Live and let live for me. If you are not an SJW then that should be ok with you. We shall see.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by hairygrandpa View Post
    This. It has been observed in other animals as well, at a higher rate if I remember correctly. So, porn, alcohol, etc. are likely not the biggest culprits.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by rascal14 View Post
    This. It has been observed in other animals as well, at a higher rate if I remember correctly. So, porn, alcohol, etc. are likely not the biggest culprits.
    Rascal.
    We have no idea what the impact of massive amounts of porn have on boys in puberty yet.
    Or massive device use for that matter.

  14. We all know masculinity is under attack by SJW.
    Straight white males are the reason for all that plaques us.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by rascal14 View Post
    This. It has been observed in other animals as well, at a higher rate if I remember correctly. So, porn, alcohol, etc. are likely not the biggest culprits.
    Its only a few generations ,if that of heavy handheld device use with unlimited access to porn.
    What 14 year old wouldn't be wackin off 4or5times a day.
    We don't know what its doing to their brains

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Cgkone View Post
    Its only a clue generations if that of heavy handheld device use with unlimited access to porn.
    What 14 year old wouldn't be wackin off 4or5times a day.
    We don't know what its doing to their brains
    Never said it wasn’t a problem. It’s clearly not the biggest, considering we are the only species who uses technology and has access to porn, yet other species are experiencing the same decline in testosterone levels?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by rascal14 View Post
    Never said it wasnít a problem. Itís clearly not the biggest, considering we are the only species who uses technology and has access to porn, yet other species are experiencing the same decline in testosterone levels?
    Read it wrong
    My bad

  18. Also, no significant proof claiming that masturbation lowers testosterone. Not sure where all this fake news is coming from lol

  19. Lol masturbation does not lower testosterone

  20. Quote Originally Posted by BlockBuilder View Post
    Lol masturbation does not lower testosterone
    Wait.....
    Chronic masturbation to high doses of very well made porn.
    Over and over again all the way through puberty "could" impact and take away normal desire for young men to chase girls.
    I don't mean masturbation=low T in young men.

  21. My point is ...

    Its not a single magazine, with pages missing, under the bed.
    Its an endless virtual library.
    With any thing you can think of.
    I just don't think young men can be exposed to that and it not effect how the react to women.
    Expectations and reality of a healthy sexual relationship are going to be skewed at the least.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Cgkone View Post
    My point is ...

    Its not a single magazine, with pages missing, under the bed.
    Its an endless virtual library.
    With any thing you can think of.
    I just don't think young men can be exposed to that and it not effect how the react to women.
    Expectations and reality of a healthy sexual relationship are going to be skewed at the least.
    Totally agree with this. Its ridiculous how extensive it is and i think its a huge problem.

  23. Yes porn can and will lead to relationship issues, real sex life issues for sure. But none of this has anything to do with testosterone levels, which is what the thread is about.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by rascal14 View Post
    Yes porn can and will lead to relationship issues, real sex life issues. But none of this has anything to do with testosterone levels, which is what the thread is about.
    Rascal you tested young mens testosterone?
    One group that watched extensive porn and therefore had less interaction with real chicks.
    And
    One group that didn't watch excessive porn and therefore desired normal interaction with girls?
    I know that we all know masturbation is normal and healthy.
    But you don't have the data to say excessive porn consumption in kids changes hormones or not.
    Just device use alone throughout puberty has unknown health consequences.
    The tech companies have reported it.
    Mix that with unrealistic visual stimulation.
    Just like I'm not sure that it does....your not sure that it Dosnt.
    This type of access is brand new.
    Only a generation old.
    Your a young man did you have unlimited internet access 12-17 years old?

  25. So i can't say forsure it does....but I think its a piece to the puzzle.
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