[thebigt]

the VA just flat out doesn't want to replace my knee...so this is their option---got cortisone shot in doctors office last Tuesday, today I got lidocaine patches, tomorrow diclofenac 1% topical gel is coming.

the cortisone injection actually has helped some, it took a lot of the swelling away and increased mobility-still have most of the pain....


I put 1 of the lidocaine patches on about 3 hours ago, after reading a lot of praise from people who are/have used them I am somewhat disappointed-hopefully they have a cumulative effect..

I just got thru doing at least an hour of research on the diplofenac gel, I have high expectations for this, user experiences I read are at least 95% favorable with at least moderate pain relief.


anyone used either the lidocaine patches or the diclofenac gel?

[Woody]

I noticed zero from lidocaine patches. Used 10 or so with no avail. Pain in the ass to keep on too

[thebigt]

I noticed zero from lidocaine patches. Used 10 or so with no avail. Pain in the ass to keep on too

yeah, after reading so many positive reviews I am disappointed. I used the liner from my brace over patch to keep it in place, otherwise you are right-it would never last even close to 12 hours....I hope the diclofenac gel works better!!!

[youngandfree]

My wife was given Voltaren gel for her knee pain. I think that's how it's spelled.

[thebigt]

My wife was given Voltaren gel for her knee pain. I think that's how it's spelled.

yup...diclofenac gel is the generic for voltaren....did it help your wife's knee pain? @youngandfree

[youngandfree]

yup...diclofenac gel is the generic for voltaren....did it help your wife's knee pain? @youngandfree

Yeah, her's wasn't too bad. She thought she had a torn ligament, and during surgery, they saw there wasn't any tear. Just scar tissue under the knee cap the doc scraped out. So when she used it, it helped.

My buddy has been dealing with an achillies tear for the last 3 years. I've seen a tube of it at his place, but don't think he uses it, not sure why.

[Misfit28]

I am just now healing up from an inflamed Achilles tendon caused by a heel spur. The Voltaren gel helped me quite a bit.

[thebigt]

I am just now healing up from an inflamed Achilles tendon caused by a heel spur. The Voltaren gel helped me quite a bit.

the patches are worthless, but the voltaren gel IS helping. the effects seem to be cumulative, after using every 4-6 hours for a few days I can tell a significant reduction in pain---when I have to be on my feet for an extended time it starts to hurt, but when I get home and apply the voltaren gel relief comes pretty fast.
@Misfit28 have you tried the gel anywhere else!!!

[thebigt]

Yeah, her's wasn't too bad. She thought she had a torn ligament, and during surgery, they saw there wasn't any tear. Just scar tissue under the knee cap the doc scraped out. So when she used it, it helped.

My buddy has been dealing with an achillies tear for the last 3 years. I've seen a tube of it at his place, but don't think he uses it, not sure why.

glad it helped your wife, you should tell your buddy to at least give the gel a reasonable trial period!!!

[Misfit28]

the patches are worthless, but the voltaren gel IS helping. the effects seem to be cumulative, after using every 4-6 hours for a few days I can tell a significant reduction in pain---when I have to be on my feet for an extended time it starts to hurt, but when I get home and apply the voltaren gel relief comes pretty fast.
@Misfit28 have you tried the gel anywhere else!!!

I used to use it on my shoulder, as I have a circumferential tear in my labrum and it helped quite a bit. That got better by shoulder pressing more, instead of less like my doc recommended

[thebigt]

I used to use it on my shoulder, as I have a circumferential tear in my labrum and it helped quite a bit. That got better by shoulder pressing more, instead of less like my doc recommended

I get 4 big 100gram bottles every month so I am going to experiment on my neck and shoulders next time I sleep wrong and get a pulsing headache. I put some on my wife's sore back and she said it didn't help much.

[Misfit28]

I get 4 big 100gram bottles every month so I am going to experiment on my neck and shoulders next time I sleep wrong and get a pulsing headache. I put some on my wife's sore back and she said it didn't help much.

The key is letting it build up to therapeutic levels, that's when it really starts to work.

[thebigt]

The key is letting it build up to therapeutic levels, that's when it really starts to work.

that is how it has worked for my knee...but when I get a really bad headache I will try anything-not sure I want to use it all the time on my neck and shoulders since the really bad headaches only happen once in awhile. I even saw where a woman applied voltaren to her temples after getting a migraine and she said it really helped....

[ChocolateClen]

Icy hot with lidocaine. That **** works let me tell you. Then again I was using 3x more than I should have been

[Misfit28]

that is how it has worked for my knee...but when I get a really bad headache I will try anything-not sure I want to use it all the time on my neck and shoulders since the really bad headaches only happen once in awhile. I even saw where a woman applied voltaren to her temples after getting a migraine and she said it really helped....

That's very interesting.

[thebigt]

Icy hot with lidocaine. That **** works let me tell you. Then again I was using 3x more than I should have been

tried it, not much effect. the lidocaine patches are 5% and they don't do much either.

[thebigt]

That's very interesting.

I thought so too.

[ChocolateClen]

tried it, not much effect. the lidocaine patches are 5% and they don't do much either.

**** when I was dying with my shoulder I'd pour tons on and it would help loads

[thebigt]

**** when I was dying with my shoulder I'd pour tons on and it would help loads

I have no doubt it worked great for you, and happy to hear it!!!

[ChocolateClen]

I have no doubt it worked great for you, and happy to hear it!!!

Have you tried Kratom and BPC157?

[thebigt]

Have you tried Kratom and BPC157?

what I really need to try is a knee replacement...but the VA is giving me the runaround!!!

but no, I have not tried either of those...


sorry if I sound angry, I am just very frustrated by the GD-- VA!!!!

[ChocolateClen]

what I really need to try is a knee replacement...but the VA is giving me the runaround!!!

but no, I have not tried either of those...


sorry if I sound angry, I am just very frustrated by the GD-- VA!!!!

While they are ****ing you right up the ars (heard they do that a lot) I'd give kratom and BPC a try. Guys here swear by Kratoms pain relieving abilities and BPC has a lot of healing properties so It could keep it from getting any worse, maybe even make it slightly better.

[thebigt]

While they are ****ing you right up the ars (heard they do that a lot) I'd give kratom and BPC a try. Guys here swear by Kratoms pain relieving abilities and BPC has a lot of healing properties so It could keep it from getting any worse, maybe even make it slightly better.

thank you, I appreciate your helpfulness!!!

[thebigt]

I highly recommend voltaren gel...it only last for around 3 hours per application, but it numbs the pain pretty good for that length of time.

[mmorso]

what I really need to try is a knee replacement...but the VA is giving me the runaround!!!

but no, I have not tried either of those...


sorry if I sound angry, I am just very frustrated by the GD-- VA!!!!

Whoa man really? No knee replacement now? That's sucks man!!!

Also, @ChocolateClen is right about the Kratom. I've got a log going right now and tagged you for the discussion.

I hope the VA does something for ya man!! That's sh1tty