He was much younger there. Not that big of a difference, not one that would require gear to be done. He isn't much bigger so much as a few % leaner and is partially flexed in his new pics. Either way he looks good for a thin muscular guy. Props to him however he went about doing it.Zacs before pic I wonder what these guys runView attachment 132368
The difference is actually pretty damn big man but I need to get out of this thread and stop judging Zach EfronHe was much younger there. Not that big of a difference, not one that would require gear to be done. He isn't much bigger so much as a few % leaner and is partially flexed in his new pics. Either way he looks good for a thin muscular guy. Props to him however he went about doing it.
Like 5-ish lbs new muscle mass and 5lbs less fat. Far from a gear required transformation though is my point. He showed pictured that were years apart and used it as the reason to say he was on gear. I just don't see that big of a change going from a 20 something to 30 something year old man who works out those are far from unreasonable natty gains. You are gong to thicken up just from becoming a man. They call that man weight. The transformation is great but I just don't see the "Zac Efron on steroids" part of it.The difference is actually pretty damn big man but I need to get out of this thread and stop judging Zach Efron
I can't imagine him having actually gained 18 lbs of muscle for this role with the physique he already has had since he was a teenager. He sure doesn't look like he gained 18 lbs of muscle. Unless he put a good bit of it on his legs. Not saying he isn't juicing but on the same note an already fit guy who can dedicate several hours a day to his workout, recovery, and has all his meals prepped and ready for him could make the same transformation as well.Also just read he put on 18 pounds of muscle. Not five....So there is that. Eighteen pounds of LBM isn't something you do naturally is what 3 or 4 months?.
Who / What?Then how do you explain "The Solution"?
No way "Titan" would ever use gear! He is all natty and an American Gladiator, watch your tongue!What are you guys talking about? The Rock is natty. Mike O'Hearn told me personally.
He Did, now what -- he looks good and made some millions for doing it.Does it matter?
Let's say he did...Now what?
Or let's say he didn't... Now what?
What difference does it matter if he did it didn't use steroids?
BOOM!!!!! I think this is right for most people.People envy and excuse away his insane work ethic as a steroid facilitated achievement.
They explain away their lack of achievement as a purest whose not wanting to use steroids when in actuality it's their lack of discipline that is their greatest hindrance to achieving said physique.
They feel better about their mediocrity afterwards.
Or not...
low dose Tren masteron and winstrol IMHOBOOM!!!!! I think this is right for most people.
This is what I suspect is the real reason behind steroid accusations. An attempt to justify their lack of progress or unwillingness to do the work needed.People envy and excuse away his insane work ethic as a steroid facilitated achievement.
They explain away their lack of achievement as a purest whose not wanting to use steroids when in actuality it's their lack of discipline that is their greatest hindrance to achieving said physique.
They feel better about their mediocrity afterwards.
Or not...
If Dwayne has anything to do with it then it is likely you are right. If that fool isn't on the tren train I don't know who is! However I still think most people see something attainable that requires hard work and assume that somebody cheated to get there.low dose Tren masteron and winstrol IMHO
He's training with Dwayne Johnson
Sadly the incomprehensible grammar you have makes it quite difficult to understand for certain the point in what you said.If you saw zac in the lucky one you see what he achieved naturally from a bulk. This is a completely different transformation with not an ounce of fat gained he went from what he looked like in the neighbors 2 gained a great amount of lean mass and no fat whatsoever. He actually got leaner. In the timeframe of a few months or so that's just not possible. You can see photos of Zacs natural bulk for the lucky one. Being a natural it's not impressive. It's what's realistic and what to expect from a natural lifter. This is him in neighbors 2 his last movie to this
Lovingtolift is that you?i like cookies sometimes i ride my skateboard and sometimes i take naps also i have a puppy
Can't be, he would've started a new thread and posed this as a question... Must have internet approval of all statements.Lovingtolift is that you?
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