THC - Maryjewona cons & pros?
- 09-23-2013, 09:21 PM
Marijuana shouldn't even be considered a drug, and even if it is considered as a drug, (its rating on a scale 1-10, 10 being the worst) would be no higher than a 2. Alcohol and Tobacco would be in the top 7-10 for sure! Just look at death tolls, anyone with an IQ exceeding a 10 year olds should realize this blatant obviousness.
- 09-23-2013, 10:26 PM
Mj reduces accute pain. Increases hunger for those who cant *wont* eat enough.
Mj may*conflicting studies* increase estrogen and lower testosterone. Mj has a major negative effect on neuro transmitters. Mj even when vaporized causes lung damage*for those of you who argue this please go back to school and learn how extra mass via breathing anythig causes air way resistance and mj in its vapor form is heavier than commen air* mj has high risk for dependency*look at that documentary*. Although effects unlike overdose from other drugs you CAN overdose to the point you are impaired*Especally for non frequent smokers*
Safer than alcohol? Yes in my opinion but skewed studies and here say make this almost undetermined. If a person gets in a wreck who had both alcohol and weed in their body how can we tell if the weed or the booze caused the crash?
Do I think it should be illegal? No. Although I would like to point out the fact people will do it anyway and its rather easy to find.
In closing. I take some things that wouldn't be considered healthy. I cant tell you what to do except what works for you. Im not anti mj im just very careful about what I put in my body.
Lets leave the legal argument out and give this guy our opinions about what he has asked
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09-23-2013, 11:36 PM
childish and for teenagers IMO. could care less if it was legal or illegal.
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09-23-2013, 11:40 PM
09-24-2013, 01:31 AM
09-24-2013, 03:58 AM
09-24-2013, 08:08 AM
Answer the op based on your own opinion not on something I did.
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09-24-2013, 01:34 PM
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09-24-2013, 06:07 PM
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09-24-2013, 06:38 PM
09-24-2013, 06:41 PM
09-24-2013, 06:44 PM
And again, you aren't using it for any of the medical benefits you're basing your argument on.
You're using it to GET HIGH, which is extraordinarily childish.
09-24-2013, 06:48 PM
09-24-2013, 06:48 PM
09-24-2013, 06:50 PM
09-24-2013, 07:42 PM
And according to the guy who keeps calling it "childish", anything that alters the mind or body should be considered childish. It seems to me you should explore mj a little more before you start hating on a plant that will soon be the preferred recreational choice across America.
09-24-2013, 07:51 PM
"What is your guys opinion on pot? Can it be useful or beneficial in any way? Does anybody know if it produces any catabolic process in your body (if you don't munch out)? Or can it be a useful tool during bulking cycle (obviously if you have a poor appetite)? "
was the original question. if you came out of surgery, you'd want painkillers. Idc if it's legal or not, I find pot childish, not everything. Obviously your opinion is superior to mine
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09-24-2013, 08:13 PM
was the original question. if you came out of surgery, you'd want painkillers. Idc if it's legal or not, I find pot childish, not everything. Obviously your opinion is superior to mine [/QUOTE]
No, I value your opinion, its the facts you've presented that are inferior.
I just can't believe that someone would label smoking marijuana childish, its a farce. But I guess I'm a child because I like to smoke a joint before bed because it induces a better sleep, or smoke a bowl on a day off from work and go golfing, because the reality is it makes activities more enjoyable without the harshness of tobacco and the pure evil of alcohol. Maybe its not for you, but for others yes. Everyone reacts to everything differently, and if you want to sit there and call it childish, then I'll sit here and contradict you all day long.
Yes, there are potheads out there whose main purpose is to smoke weed, and all they do is give it a bad reputation, but there are plenty of us out here that are educated and know the qualities to which it can and will produce.
This guys tread was derailed from the 3rd page before I even presented any contradictory statements.
09-24-2013, 08:16 PM
Marijuana side effects for those who claim it is the holy Grail of safe medicine because its natural.
Which is certainly besides the point that every "counter"argument to mine has not addressed anything in my argument.
I'll list it for those who are mentally impaired from long term marijuana use.
1. Marijuana has MEDICAL application when under the supervised care of a medical PROFESSIONAL. It has its own pros/cons as does any other prescribed drug.
2. Those arguing for it are NOT using it for medical purposes and are using it to get HIGH yet are arguing based upon its medical uses.
Now, notice that nowhere in there do I say anything about how alcohol OR tobacco OR prescription medication are any better than marijuana. I personally don't use ANY of those substances at all, and I think that using anything to alter your mental function so that you can get high is extremely childish.
And to the guy who thinks that nothing bad has EVER come from smoking marijuana people have died of lung cancer from smoking it. Besides the long term mental effects it has (declining of memory, critical thinking skills, etc.)
09-24-2013, 08:40 PM
To solely base ones mental health on marijuana as we age is ludicrous. You've got to be kidding me. You've provided me with a website that lists POSSIBLE effects of smoking it, where are these links to long cancer you're talking about?
Also I'm arguing that it has medicinal purposes and recreational purposes. I personally use it for relaxation, sleep, and to enjoy activities more thoroughly.
09-24-2013, 08:55 PM
The mental decline has nothing to do with age. I've seen it over and over again in Houston (where I live) and in the military with guys that had a rapid decline in their mental capacity from smoking between the ages of 16-22.
Yes, I put up a link that talks about the POSSIBLE side effects of using it because no two people are EVER going to react to the same drug the same way.
Any drug that has side effects is going to be POSSIBLE side effects because some people wont have them and some people will.
I'm arguing that using any drug recreationally is childish and is just a way to avoid problems in life.Also I'm arguing that it has medicinal purposes and recreational purposes. I personally use it for relaxation, sleep, and to
Ridiculously childish, you can't enjoy life without being high? Seriously?enjoy activities more thoroughly.
You guys are talking about people who ABUSE substances as a legitimate argument for why marijuana should be legal. Talking about how dangerous ABUSING alcohol, ABUSING AAS, ABUSING Prescription medication, etc. to justify marijuana because you claim to do it responsibly.
Well, guess what, tons of people use all of those drugs responsibly. You talk about how "safe" marijuana is by pointing to people who are abusing other drugs and saying "look how dangerous it is when that person uses that!" Ridiculous.
09-24-2013, 10:39 PM
09-24-2013, 11:21 PM
Lol this thread got out of hand quick
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09-24-2013, 11:29 PM
09-25-2013, 11:06 AM
You stated earlier that marijuana has a long term effect on cognitive functions. Where the heck is your proof, you have provided me with none! And exactly as you said earlier, the effects may vary from person to person because everyone is different, well what if someone doesn't experience any of those effects because there health is a main priority in their life (eating correctly, exercising daily, proper hygiene, and always looking to enhance intelligence).
Getting high from mj is no different then ingesting protein in my book. They both serve a purpose for the greater good of our body. Obviously you haven't tried it and even if you have, you haven't tried it for long enough.
And if I read the word childish one more time I'm just going to withdraw from this debate. What really is childish is the lack of relevance your "facts" contain. You haven't provided a valid source yet. Once you present me with a credible source of it "causing lung cancer and impairing mental functions as a long term effect" then we can really start this debate.
As of now you've provided me with an opinion you seem adamant to reverse on, maybe you should open a book instead of watching biased news organizations and reading wikipedia.
09-25-2013, 11:34 AM
09-25-2013, 11:44 AM
However, tell that to the tens of thousands of liquor stores around the country and all the doctors that over prescribe medications to patients, and any other way people are looking to release and enjoy life in a different way. It is going to happen, and people are going to want to enjoy themselves and escape from time to time (or more), and marijuana is a safer way to do it. Look, everyone has a vice, because you still see a stigma surrounding MJ, doesn't make it any more wrong than the pills you are advocating, or a traditional liquor store.
09-25-2013, 12:47 PM
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