Youth Of Today...

[BLaQz]

I feel they...
- want to be grown, without actually knowing how to be grown,
- don't know right from wrong,
- simply don't give a f**k about what is right or wrong, or
- don't give a f**k that they don't know right from wrong...

Opinions?

 

[OnionKnight]

you live in california? totally true out here, i bich about it all the time. idk abut the rest of the world

 

[BLaQz]

you live in california? totally true out here, i bich about it all the time. idk abut the rest of the world

I'm in Australia dude... I bit¢h about it all the time too... The amount of times I've wanted to punch a kid in the face is unbelievable haha!

 

[Matt73]

It's in Toronto too. I really like the punks that don't move out of the way and bump your shoulder on the sidewalk. Like they're some tough guy. And of course I can't teach them the lesson they need to be taught, but I'm with ya BLaQz I've wanted to knock these little biches out so many times. And that's the problem, they've gotten away with it because nobody drops them on their ass. When that happens then they'll smarten up.

 

[thyrod]

Hehe I'm that tough guy"" to punks. And immature men. Sagging pants and sideways hats. I'm young still but I have my respect for people who deserve it not sim ****en loser that thinks he got it all..

 

[hiprsha666]

Stop judging, guize. #YOLO #swag

 

[AE14]

I understand the sentiment. I am a High School VP, and I could tell you stories that would make your head spin.

 

[R1balla]

the majority, yes. BUT, not all, but some of it is a reflection of the parent(s). so many things factor into behavior.

 

[BLaQz]

the majority, yes. BUT, not all, but some of it is a reflection of the parent(s). so many things factor into behavior.

Parents, TV, videogames(when it comes to their lack of social skills), &/or other outside influences i.e. other kids with bad parents, siblings etc...

 

[dds]

one word: entitlement

i see it in the engineering firm i work for, the kids coming out of collage think the world is made for them

 

[Matt73]

one word: entitlement

i see it in the engineering firm i work for, the kids coming out of collage think the world is made for them

Absolutely, teaching 4-6 year olds like I do, it's EVEN starting at that age. I look at some and I can tell they are gonna be brutal adults!

 

[Zero V]

Only going to get worse...My children will learn to earn things, even from me. And there will be consequences when they screw up. Nothing drastic. But when was the last time you met someone who had to earn allowance? I have not in awhile...

It is the little things like that which build character.

Also I remember I stole from a store once. My father beat my ass so bad I could not walk for days. I never stole again.

 

[wicked442]

Its child abuse now if you spank your kids. Spanking has gotten blown way out of proportion. I dont agree with beating kids, but a good ass whipping has its place. Imo

 

[dds]

But when was the last time you met someone who had to earn allowance? I have not in awhile....

hell when i was growing up a roof over your head and food in your belly was alloance..........kids these days are soft

 

[R1balla]

hell when i was growing up a roof over your head and food in your belly was alloance..........kids these days are soft

Yeah when I was a kid going to school I had to walk in two feet of snow up hill to school and uphill back. These kids are weak

 

[thebigt]

i don't blame the kids...i blame the guys[and gals] my age that refuse to grow up and think they are still kids. my generation has failed at parenthood, hell my generation has failed at adulthood!!! hell, to be honest, my generation has just plain failed...baby boomers are the worst generation of misfits the planet has ever known!!!

 

[michelle82]

I'm a 31 year old mom of a two year old baby boy and I have 3 more brother the littlest one is 6 and the older one is 34. The other one is 21. I don't blame parents nor kids. Time changes and like everything, humans also evolve, for good or for bad who knows. Moral values have been lost throughout time. I think we a parents can try to do as much as possible to educate our children and make them responsible successful adults. I'm a strong believer because I've seen both sides of the coin, the very successful rich or at least medium to high class parents worried at all times about their children's education who end up having kids that result a total mess, and the poor non educated parents who can't even read and have good successful kids. Don't get me wrong I'm not generalizing, what I mean to say is that a lot depends on this new era of kids and their personalities. This new era of kids are definitely different than kids from my time. I see now kids disrespecting their parents and their elders, in my time raising the voice to your parents meant picking up your teeth from the ground. It wasn't tolerated to be disrespectful. Maybe it's also based on the fact that I'm Latin and no matter how old we are we respect others. But I agree times have changed and I think it's going to keep on getting worse. All we can so is the out best as parents and love and protect our children.

 

[puccah8808]

I feel they...
- want to be grown, without actually knowing how to be grown,
- don't know right from wrong,
- simply don't give a f**k about what is right or wrong, or
- don't give a f**k that they don't know right from wrong...

Opinions?

I totally agree! My little sister doesn't know the value of a dollar and it pisses me off.

 

[puccah8808]

I'm a 31 year old mom of a two year old baby boy and I have 3 more brother the littlest one is 6 and the older one is 34. The other one is 21. I don't blame parents nor kids. Time changes and like everything, humans also evolve, for good or for bad who knows. Moral values have been lost throughout time. I think we a parents can try to do as much as possible to educate our children and make them responsible successful adults. I'm a strong believer because I've seen both sides of the coin, the very successful rich or at least medium to high class parents worried at all times about their children's education who end up having kids that result a total mess, and the poor non educated parents who can't even read and have good successful kids. Don't get me wrong I'm not generalizing, what I mean to say is that a lot depends on this new era of kids and their personalities. This new era of kids are definitely different than kids from my time. I see now kids disrespecting their parents and their elders, in my time raising the voice to your parents meant picking up your teeth from the ground. It wasn't tolerated to be disrespectful. Maybe it's also based on the fact that I'm Latin and no matter how old we are we respect others. But I agree times have changed and I think it's going to keep on getting worse. All we can so is the out best as parents and love and protect our children.

I agree with you!!! Sad to say that I don't want kids because I think this world is a little too f up. Sometimes even nurturing doesn't help and nature will eventually f them up. I refuse to add to the cause.

 

[JD261985]

I live in Florida the 16 yr olds think they're the toughest shyt on the planet..the 20 yr olds still live off of their parents and brag about everything they have. The 30 and 40 yr olds still act and DRESS like they're 16. I don't understand this state I live in

 

[Zac Speed]

Its not just kids.. Its our entire country. I blame Liberalism. The need to make the immoral moral for sake of not hurting ones feelings.

It also ties in to the adoption of democracy that our government has pushed. Where you are forced to conform to outside belief of a majority instead of protected by a republic where no one has any right over any aspect of your life.

 

[EatMoar]

I like the people who don't want to work for anything. They think they are entitled to muscles, money, women and a high paying job. HA wake up call. If you want a good job you better hit the library and study so you can get a degree. Nothing is free. You want women? Better go approach some. Want some muscles? Prepare to be brutal to your body. No short cuts.

 

[OnionKnight]

well actually... a good job has more to do with who you know than what degree you have

 

[EatMoar]

well actually... a good job has more to do with who you know than what degree you have

I have to disagree. I have a great job and got it purely on luck. Of course now I'm in a good position for connections but its possible to get a good job without knowing anyone.

 

[puccah8808]

I have to disagree. I have a great job and got it purely on luck. Of course now I'm in a good position for connections but its possible to get a good job without knowing anyone.

I got my job without anyone's help and when people ask me to hook them up with a job, I say no.

 

[thebigt]

I got my job without anyone's help and when people ask me to hook them up with a job, I say no.

i bet you have great parents...

 

[Piston Honda]

I got my job without anyone's help and when people ask me to hook them up with a job, I say no.

Your posting history unfortunately gives me an idea of how you did.

 

[Celorza]

I got my job without anyone's help and when people ask me to hook them up with a job, I say no.

Funny my father taught me something, whether someone helps you out or not, always help out someone in need or if you are in position to. This is coming from the man (my father) whose mother (my grandmother) got killed by a drunk driver in an accident when he was 19 and already orphaned from my grandpa...he gave a job and free medical care (he payed for it) for the man and his daughter.
Matters not if you are helped or not to get where you are.. It's a human responsibility to be at least a bit empathic of those who are (like you) struggling to make it day by day.

You might think you are being cool or amazing for not helping them...but for what I was taught, at least I can say you are just being a bit neglectful of your sense of humanity....in the end it's not your obligation to help them per say... That's just how some of us view life.

 

[thebigt]

Funny my father taught me something, whether someone helps you out or not, always help out someone in need or if you are in position to. This is coming from the man (my father) whose mother (my grandmother) got killed by a drunk driver in an accident when he was 19 and already orphaned from my grandpa...he gave a job and free medical care (he payed for it) for the man and his daughter.
Matters not if you are helped or not to get where you are.. It's a human responsibility to be at least a bit empathic of those who are (like you) struggling to make it day by day.

You might think you are being cool or amazing for not helping them...but for what I was taught, at least I can say you are just being a bit neglectful of your sense of humanity....in the end it's not your obligation to help them per say... That's just how some of us view life.

maybe there is hope for you yet, lol.:thumbsup:

 

[JD261985]

I got my job without anyone's help and when people ask me to hook them up with a job, I say no.

Puccah that's just plain mean. If someone is seriously in need and you have the ability to help them out you should

 

[Piston Honda]

"Job"...think about it...

 

[B5150]

Its child abuse now if you spank your kids. Spanking has gotten blown way out of proportion. I dont agree with beating kids, but a good ass whipping has its place. Imo

If you need to resort to hitting then you have already failed as a parent on far too many levels already.

 

[wicked442]

If you need to resort to hitting then you have already failed as a parent on far too many levels already.

So you never got spanked as a kid? What type of punishment do you recommend?

 

[B5150]

So you never got spanked as a kid? What type of punishment do you recommend?

Here was the OP's post:

I feel they...
- want to be grown, without actually knowing how to be grown, - parental failure
- don't know right from wrong, - parental failure
- simply don't give a f**k about what is right or wrong, or - parental failure
- don't give a f**k that they don't know right from wrong... - parental failure

Opinions?

That same incompetent parent is now going to punish the child that they raised to be exactly what they invested in them? Hypocritical and counterproductive.

They are a product of their environment:

What they live they learn.
What they learn they practice.
What they practice they become.
What they become has consequences.

Unfortunately we all (society) suffer from a fathers failure to raise his children.

 

[wicked442]

Here was the OP's post:That same incompetent parent is now going to punish the child that they raised to be exactly what they invested in them? Hypocritical and counterproductive.

They are a product of their environment:

What they live they learn.
What they learn they practice.
What they practice they become.
What they become has consequences.

I agree with what you say. My ? Is Should a child just be taught right from wrong by a parents words and actions without any type of punishment even when they do wrong?

 

[B5150]

I agree with what you say. My ? Is Should a child just be taught right from wrong by a parents words and actions without any type of punishment even when they do wrong?

Discipline and punishment are different. The difference is one allows them to experience the consequences of their choices and actions in an environment that is conducive to learning and growing in maturity and accountability and the other is simply punitive. Discipline (correction with love at its root) can produces positive growth and change. Punishment can produce resentment and rebellion and perpetuate the same.

My father hit me for everything. He was dense and had no idea. I have never hit my children. Hitting, like profanity, is used because they are are not smart enough to use anything else IMHO.

 

[wicked442]

Discipline and punishment are different. The difference is one allows them to experience the consequences of their choices and actions in an environment that is conducive to learning and growing in maturity and accountability and the other is simply punitive. Discipline (correction with love at its root) can produces positive growth and change. Punishment can produce resentment and rebellion and perpetuate the same.

My father hit me for everything. He was dense and had no idea. I have never hit my children. Hitting, like profanity, is used because they are are not smart enough to use anything else IMHO.

My grandfather hit my father often as well. My father never laid a hand on me because of his upbringing. I simply did as he said or showed me. Thank you for a such a prof answer.

 

[Piston Honda]

So you never got spanked as a kid? What type of punishment do you recommend?

http://youtu.be/RDWhTbQauz4

 

[wicked442]

Good call on that piston. That is a funny skit.

How was that ghost concert?

 

[puccah8808]

Puccah that's just plain mean. If someone is seriously in need and you have the ability to help them out you should

My coworkers and I do not refer people because very few people are willing to sacrifice their time and energy. Who wants to work 12-16 hours a day, 5-6 days a week?

 

[Piston Honda]

Good call on that piston. That is a funny skit.

How was that ghost concert?

There was my vantage point! Skeletonwitch melted our faces off; Ghost was an "experience" and awesome!

 

[wicked442]

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There was my vantage point! Skeletonwitch melted our faces off; Ghost was an "experience" and awesome!

Holy shyt! It looks like you were on stage with them. I dont know who skeletonwitch is but having your face melted off sounds awesome.

 

[Piston Honda]

 

[Piston Honda]

Holy shyt! It looks like you were on stage with them. I dont know who skeletonwitch is but having your face melted off sounds awesome.

Here they are

 

[wicked442]

I checked them out on youtube just now. I love the music but i cant understand what he is singing. Prob damn good show in person.

 

[musclefool]

It's all the parents I'm 22 and have a 14 year old sister. The way she treats my parents is fuked up if me or my other siblings were to act like she does we would get knocked the fuggg out. But my parernts were broke with me n my siblings the. She got a good ass job and spoiled my little sister. It's ridiculous parents need to hit there kids, no abuse them but slap them a couple times to not do that **** that's how I learned I'm no way in hell disrespectful to anyone.

 

[B5150]

It's all the parents I'm 22 and have a 14 year old sister. The way she treats my parents is fuked up if me or my other siblings were to act like she does we would get knocked the fuggg out. But my parernts were broke with me n my siblings the. She got a good ass job and spoiled my little sister. It's ridiculous parents need to hit there kids,no abuse them but slap them a couple times to not do that **** that's how I learned I'm no way in hell disrespectful to anyone.

The parents produced the behavior and yet that same parent should now hit that child. Hello!?!

 

[thebigt]

The parents produced the behavior and yet that same parent should now hit that child. Hello!?!

i never hit or spanked any of my kids and i am very proud of all three of them.

i earned their respect by doing what i said i would do and never making promises i couldn't keep. it is my theory that kids will not automatically respect you because you are their parent, you have to show them the right way through example, and earn respect!!!

 

[B5150]

i never hit or spanked any of my kids and i am very proud of all three of them.

i earned their respect by doing what i said i would do and never making promises i couldn't keep. it is my theory that kids will not automatically respect you because you are their parent, you have to show them the right way through example, and earn respect!!!

Ditto!

One thing I pride myself in is the ability to say "I am sorry" and "please forgive me" when I make mistakes. Although I would like to be perfect I am quick to own my less than good behavior and choices and I believe it is with that kind of parental leadership that we raise children to be accountable and respectful adults.

 

[thebigt]

Ditto!

One thing I pride myself in is the ability to say "I am sorry" and "please forgive me" when I make mistakes. Although I would like to be perfect I am quick to own my less than good behavior and choices and I believe it is with that kind of parental leadership that we raise children to be accountable and respectful adults.

if only more parents practised and taught personal responsibility.....


another lesson i tried to teach my kids is not to say anything about someone behind their back that you wouldn't say to their face....