you make enough of a point todd, and aqua has posted enough bull**** threads in the past hour, that I will issue a warning in his general direction. I refuse to see **** threads like "how much water?", "what size arms?", "favorite type of whey", "how often do you eat", "blah blah blah" popping up all over the place. so if you feel lucky keep that **** up and see what happens. if on the other hand you value your ability to function on this board, feel free to read up on things and maybe post something worthwhile aquaray. that is all.