AM + 5 Alpha Test joint pain

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Right about the time I started noticing these were "kicking in" I started getting debilitating pain in my arms, mid workout. Specifically, the bicep-elbow area. Now I understand I've increased the weight I've been lifting, but frankly I think I pushed myself harder when I did a 5x5 prior due to going to failure, etc... I'm wondering if this stack has the potential to lower estrogen or cortisol enough to cause joint pain/inflammation? I got some basic blood work prior to starting, and I know I had pretty healthy estrogen levels.

I am taking fish oil daily and even baby aspirin a few times a day. No effect, really. I had about a weeks worth of Joint Help (paractin + cissus) but I didn't notice anything there either. Joint Force spray MAY have had some benefit, but only outside the gym.

I've never experienced this before, btw. Even on ArA.
 
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Yes the primary metabolite of epiandrosterone is actually an aromatase inhibitor. There are also anti estrogen like effects from DHT.
 
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Also great for pain relief check out dmso its wonderful for joint pain.
 
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I only have a week and a half left, of AM. The joint pain seems to be getting worse and effecting my workouts. Should I scrap the 5-Alpha and save it or could a couple days off be enough to get back on it at a low dose?

Btw, for my first cycle, I'm loving the results from this. Actually exceeded my expectations on strength gains. Dosing 6/6/6/6/8/8/9, btw. Biggest gains on Bench press. Went from like 225x5 to ~260x5. Gains on all compound lifts though. I had seemingly plateaued at my current caloric intake, so I also increased ~150cals/day starting week 2.
 
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How are you dosing the 5alpha test is that the 6/6/6/6/8/8/9? or is that hte Alpha Mass?
 
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Sorry, AM was 6/6/6/6/8/8/9. 5-Alpha was just 3/day. Every now and then I miss a dose.
 
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Sorry, AM was 6/6/6/6/8/8/9. 5-Alpha was just 3/day. Every now and then I miss a dose.
If you are not feeling too lethargic try to just do 1 5-alpha before your workouts. See if that lowers the pain.
 
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If you are not feeling too lethargic try to just do 1 5-alpha before your workouts. See if that lowers the pain.

I did not reply, but this did help greatly. After just a few days. I finished the cycle dosing 5-Alpha Test only preworkout.

Just wanted to point that out, incase it could be if benefit to anyone else.

Running my cycle of the new Alpha Mass right now. :)
 

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