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    Any Alpha Mass/Alpha Bulk logs going??


    I can't seem to find any. Stack looks good but I would like to see some logs and results before I spend the money on the stack.

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    We have had a lot of buyers say they are going to log it on our Facebook page, but no links to any yet. We have not sponsored any yet. We sold out of Bulk already, so we are making an additional supply now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    We have had a lot of buyers say they are going to log it on our Facebook page, but no links to any yet. We have not sponsored any yet. We sold out of Bulk already, so we are making an additional supply now.
    I'll possibly log it if I decide to purchase the stack today. I'm just not 100% sold on it yet.
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    How many bottles of Alpha Bulk resp. Alpha Mass would i need to get the same gains as on an 8 week Andromass V2 or V3 cycle (6 caps/day)? Or should i stack Alpha Bulk with Stano? Nothing against PP but i have the impression that Forerunner products seem to be more affordable. Do you recommend running Alpha Bulk solo the first time? Would 2 bottles be enough for an 8-weeker? Im 180lbs and only one cutting cycle so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doublejay View Post
    I'll possibly log it if I decide to purchase the stack today. I'm just not 100% sold on it yet.
    If you do decide to purchase it, I'll have a FRL tee-shirt sent out to you. Maybe more.

    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    How many bottles of Alpha Bulk resp. Alpha Mass would i need to get the same gains as on an 8 week Andromass V2 or V3 cycle (6 caps/day)? Or should i stack Alpha Bulk with Stano? Nothing against PP but i have the impression that Forerunner products seem to be more affordable. Do you recommend running Alpha Bulk solo the first time? Would 2 bottles be enough for an 8-weeker? Im 180lbs and only one cutting cycle so far.
    Alpha Bulk is best as a stacker with something stronger like Alpha Mass. You would be happy with the results that the following cycle gave you (ignore the Alpha Test as it's not available):

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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    If you do decide to purchase it, I'll have a FRL tee-shirt sent out to you. Maybe more.



    Alpha Bulk is best as a stacker with something stronger like Alpha Mass. You would be happy with the results that the following cycle gave you (ignore the Alpha Test as it's not available):

    Ok deal ! I'm ordering both today it also comes with a bottle of ursol XT. I can't name the site here though. If you could PM me dose recommendation that would be awesome . 5'8 175 12% body fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    If you do decide to purchase it, I'll have a FRL tee-shirt sent out to you. Maybe more.



    Alpha Bulk is best as a stacker with something stronger like Alpha Mass. You would be happy with the results that the following cycle gave you (ignore the Alpha Test as it's not available):

    A)looks quite affordable but couldnt it be stretched to 6 weeks?
    b)what do you think would be a realistic lbm gain with 1 bottle of AM/AB each? 5lbs?
    C)how should PCT look like? serm or is OTC PCT sufficient?
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    Quote Originally Posted by roblasane View Post
    Ok deal ! I'm ordering both today it also comes with a bottle of ursol XT. I can't name the site here though. If you could PM me dose recommendation that would be awesome . 5'8 175 12% body fat.
    I know the site. If you do order, just PM me your order info, and addy, and I'll get you a shirt. Dose the Ursol-XT as recommended during PCT.

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    A)looks quite affordable but couldnt it be stretched to 6 weeks?
    b)what do you think would be a realistic lbm gain with 1 bottle of AM/AB each? 5lbs?
    C)how should PCT look like? serm or is OTC PCT sufficient?
    A. Yes it could be, just start the Bulk at week 3.
    B. 5lbs should be easy, you should be looking for 10+. High carb, high protein, moderate/low fat. Works every time.
    C. My thoughts on PCT are outlined here: http://www.advancedmusclesciencelab....one-cycle.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    Roblasane just got hooked up with a tee.
    Thanks!
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    I just did a rde stack with mass drops as you know, hook me up with AM and AB, ill give you a good comparison and log
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    I'm going to put together a thread to consolidate the logs once they start showing up. This way you'll all be able to view them in one place.



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    Quote Originally Posted by schroedes View Post
    I just did a rde stack with mass drops as you know, hook me up with AM and AB, ill give you a good comparison and log
    how did you like the mass drops? Any noticeable gains made?
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    I have one very interesting question. As you all know in the old times 1-Androstenediol was run at dosages >=600mg/day. Which dosage of Alpha Mass would be comparable in its effects to 600 mg/day original 1-AD? 12 caps? Are 6 caps of Alpha Mass/day comparable to 300 mg 1-AD? When i read the old recommendations for 1-Ad im by the way very surprised about the high dosing of this stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    how did you like the mass drops? Any noticeable gains made?
    gained 11 lbs
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    I have one very interesting question. As you all know in the old times 1-Androstenediol was run at dosages >=600mg/day. Which dosage of Alpha Mass would be comparable in its effects to 600 mg/day original 1-AD? 12 caps? Are 6 caps of Alpha Mass/day comparable to 300 mg 1-AD? When i read the old recommendations for 1-Ad im by the way very surprised about the high dosing of this stuff.
    We don't know for sure but I'd say it's about a 2:1 ratio of Alpha Mass to 1-androstenediol. So like you have it 6 caps would be similar to 300mg's. It could be more or less depending on other factors such as age, and other supplements being used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    We don't know for sure but I'd say it's about a 2:1 ratio of Alpha Mass to 1-androstenediol. So like you have it 6 caps would be similar to 300mg's. It could be more or less depending on other factors such as age, and other supplements being used.
    Great answer! The reason i was asking is the following. There has been released a new product in the UK which pretends to contain the original 1-AD and comes with 60 100mg caps. The price of one bottle is similar to one bottle of Alpha Mass. The problem is the company who produces this product is absolutely unknown to me and who will guarantee me that it really contains 1-Ad and not superdrol e.g. What makes me mistrustful is they recommend liver support during cycle and only 2 caps per day for 4 weeks. Thus one cap could contain 10mg of SD instead of 100mg 1-AD
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    Great answer! The reason i was asking is the following. There has been released a new product in the UK which pretends to contain the original 1-AD and comes with 60 100mg caps. The price of one bottle is similar to one bottle of Alpha Mass. The problem is the company who produces this product is absolutely unknown to me and who will guarantee me that it really contains 1-Ad and not superdrol e.g. What makes me mistrustful is they recommend liver support during cycle and only 2 caps per day for 4 weeks. Thus one cap could contain 10mg of SD instead of 100mg 1-AD
    I'm pretty sure 1-Testosterone is actually legal in the UK, but nobody sells it oddly enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frozenx72 View Post
    Just got my bottles in the mail today.. Just posted a shot on the FRL Facebook page.. Cant wait to start tomorrow morning. Ill drop some updates as everything sTarts to show improvement.
    Nice just saw that? How are you stacking the two? Diet and training split?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    Nice just saw that? How are you stacking the two? Diet and training split?
    3500 calories
    Following a y3t style training program. More details as I make it to a computer.
    and stacking them as suggested form-x for pct.
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    i'm still torn...originally i wanted to bridge bulk and mass so the gains will be longer and easier to keep, but the more i read....seems like stacking the two may be the better option....what do you guys think?
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    if the goal is to gain as much mass as possible without the absolute need of a serm PCT which oh these three cycles would you advise:

    1)Alpha Mass 6 caps weeks 1-4
    Alpha Bulk 6 caps weeks 3-6

    2)Alpha Mass 6 caps weeks 1-8

    3)Alpha Mass 9 caps weeks 1-6?
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    Quote Originally Posted by frozenx72
    Just got my bottles in the mail today.. Just posted a shot on the FRL Facebook page.. Cant wait to start tomorrow morning. Ill drop some updates as everything sTarts to show improvement.
    Amen
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    if the goal is to gain as much mass as possible without the absolute need of a serm PCT which oh these three cycles would you advise:

    1)Alpha Mass 6 caps weeks 1-4
    Alpha Bulk 6 caps weeks 3-6

    2)Alpha Mass 6 caps weeks 1-8

    3)Alpha Mass 9 caps weeks 1-6?
    Most mass but least suppression! You want it all don't you? :-)

    With your goals in mind cycle number 1. You have to approach those 4 weeks very aggressively with diet and training though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frozenx72 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    Most mass but least suppression! You want it all don't you? :-)

    With your goals in mind cycle number 1. You have to approach those 4 weeks very aggressively with diet and training though.
    Yes, i want it all and i want it know . Ok, i also thought of cycle 1. But what is if i dont fear suppression and buy 2 bottles of Mass? Would you run them for 9 caps/day and 6 weeks or stretch the run for 2 more weeks but only 6 caps? When you read the PP Androseries logs all people claim that gains start at week 4/5 and that a 4-week run would be a waste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    Yes, i want it all and i want it know . Ok, i also thought of cycle 1. But what is if i dont fear suppression and buy 2 bottles of Mass? Would you run them for 9 caps/day and 6 weeks or stretch the run for 2 more weeks but only 6 caps? When you read the PP Androseries logs all people claim that gains start at week 4/5 and that a 4-week run would be a waste.
    The thing we have seen with the 1-DHEA/4-DHEA predecessors is that they actually lose some effectiveness overtime. The only way to overcome that issue would be to increase the dose at some point during the cycle (usually around week 4-5). You might be best off by running it at 6 caps for 4 weeks, then bumping it up to 9 or more for another couple of weeks. How much do you weigh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    The thing we have seen with the 1-DHEA/4-DHEA predecessors is that they actually lose some effectiveness overtime. The only way to overcome that issue would be to increase the dose at some point during the cycle (usually around week 4-5). You might be best off by running it at 6 caps for 4 weeks, then bumping it up to 9 or more for another couple of weeks. How much do you weigh?
    180lbs, 177cm
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    180lbs, 177cm

    2 bottles dosed like this...


    Week 1 - 6 caps
    Week 2 - 6
    Week 3 - 6
    Week 4 - 8
    Week 5 - 10
    Week 6 - 12
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    Quote Originally Posted by frozenx72 View Post
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    Get the Taptalk app assuming you have a iphone - it resizes and posts any picture with ease. I never have a problem
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    esuch short cycles really? is that just for gaining or would the same hold true for a cut?

    i was planning on running 6 bulk 6 mass and 4 AMS 4AD daily...

    do you think this would lose its effectiveness in a cut after 4 weeks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    2 bottles dosed like this...


    Week 1 - 6 caps
    Week 2 - 6
    Week 3 - 6
    Week 4 - 8
    Week 5 - 10
    Week 6 - 12
    Thank you for this dosing scheme. Do you think OTC PCT would be sufficient for 2 bottles of Andromass? Or would it be better to go the serm route then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ezjax View Post
    esuch short cycles really? is that just for gaining or would the same hold true for a cut?

    i was planning on running 6 bulk 6 mass and 4 AMS 4AD daily...

    do you think this would lose its effectiveness in a cut after 4 weeks?
    I think they propose such short cycles

    a)to avoid the necessity of a SERM PCT
    b)effectiveness of the stuff diminishes after 4-6 weeks because of the enzymes...

    Primordial alsways propose 8 week cycles what makes me wonder
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    Quote Originally Posted by ezjax View Post
    esuch short cycles really? is that just for gaining or would the same hold true for a cut?

    i was planning on running 6 bulk 6 mass and 4 AMS 4AD daily...

    do you think this would lose its effectiveness in a cut after 4 weeks?
    Depends on the individual.

    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    Thank you for this dosing scheme. Do you think OTC PCT would be sufficient for 2 bottles of Andromass? Or would it be better to go the serm route then?
    I'm not really sure for AndroMass....what's in Andromass now? I thought it has changed a few times.

    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    I think they propose such short cycles

    a)to avoid the necessity of a SERM PCT
    b)effectiveness of the stuff diminishes after 4-6 weeks because of the enzymes...

    Primordial alsways propose 8 week cycles what makes me wonder
    Sell more maybe? :P I don't know, but the PH research suggests the begin to lose effectiveness at around 5 weeks. The only way to overcome this is to increase dose, or start with a higher dose (which likely isn't as efficient).
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    sorry 2 bottles of alphamass not andromass was what i asked for
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    sorry 2 bottles of alphamass not andromass was what i asked for

    You could get by with OTC. But be fairly aggressive about it and use some good things like a quality AI, and DAA. You may also want to wait about 2-4 days after your last dose of Alpha Mass or Bulk to begin your PCT.
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    Andromass is 6 caps 450mg of 4dhea and 600mg andro/epiandro.

    PA says that ALL orals lose this effectiveness after 6 weeks and the paradigm shifts heavily in favor of muscle preservation instead of gaining. Is this what we are talking about? Or are we saying that alphabulk at 6 caps is rendered useless after 5 weeks unless you up the dose? If the latter does that mean that in week7 the first 6 caps are wasted and you only get the effect of 3 caps? Or do you get the same effect from 9 caps as you would have from 6 in week 2?

    I have seen primordial logs.. users who stopped at 4 weeks were not happy. Users who stopped at 8 weeks were like holy ****

    One guy showed test levels of over 1000ng/dl during his 8 week cycle.. should i not expect this from alphabulk?
  

  
 

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