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First ever cycle. Should I go with var or winni? Or both.
Looking to lean out and gain muscle mass
Pros and cons of each?
Looking to lean out and gain muscle mass
Pros and cons of each?
Like I said, first ever cycle. Recommendations welcomeThis should be in Anabolics.
But anyway, why would you run either of those by themselves with no base??
The username is amanda...maybe OP is a woman. Judging by those stats and the username im hoping thats the case.This should be in Anabolics.
But anyway, why would you run either of those by themselves with no base??
Are those your only options and can you get your hands on anything else?
Are you male?Like I said, first ever cycle. Recommendations welcome
Damn, you are right. Let's seeThe username is amanda...maybe OP is a woman. Judging by those stats and the username im hoping thats the case.
That was the plan, but had someone mention/recommend winstrol and wanted to know what the difference between the two are. Have any idea?No, ladies don't. I know a few women who run Anavar between 5 and 10mg a day and you can run it between 8-12 weeks.
Some claim winstrol is more effective in adding lean muscle mass in women and less sides are experienced.That was the plan, but had someone mention/recommend winstrol and wanted to know what the difference between the two are. Have any idea?
Hahaha I mean they're both poison. Is it possible to do both at once? Or is that a horrible idea? Sorry for all the questions just curious. Or say start out with winstrol and then move onto var?Some claim winstrol is more effective in adding lean muscle mass in women and less sides are experienced.
But winstrol is pretty hard on the joints.
I'd say go with the winstrol and start at a low dose, but it's up to you. Pick your poison.
It's a bad idea. Since this is your first cycle, you don't know how your body will react to either compound. So it's best to choose one and start at a low dose.Hahaha I mean they're both poison. Is it possible to do both at once? Or is that a horrible idea? Sorry for all the questions just curious. Or say start out with winstrol and then move onto var?
Thank youIt's a bad idea. Since this is your first cycle, you don't know how your body will react to either compound. So it's best to choose one and start at a low dose.
Anavar, 2.5 mg ED for 2 weeks, bump to 5 mg for 6 weeks. If your Var is legit, you don't need more than 5 mg/day.First ever cycle. Should I go with var or winni? Or both.
Looking to lean out and gain muscle mass
Pros and cons of each?
I agree with both being harsh on joints. I find that winstrol is harsher on joints than Anavar is.Some claim winstrol is more effective in adding lean muscle mass in women and less sides are experienced.
But winstrol is pretty hard on the joints.
I'd say go with the winstrol and start at a low dose, but it's up to you. Pick your poison.
Var shouldn't be harsh on joints at all, it should be the opposite, as it increases the expression of procollagen types I and III. Type III is what repairs tendons.I agree with both being harsh on joints. I find that winstrol is harsher on joints than Anavar is.
I was running both together so it must have been the winstrol then. Thank you for that informationVar shouldn't be harsh on joints at all, it should be the opposite, as it increases the expression of procollagen types I and III. Type III is what repairs tendons.
And to reiterate and add to this, the virilization is a very real thing that cannot be undone. It would take as little as 2-3 weeks to drop the voice and swell the nether regions. Taken for 8-10 weeks at a time (as most women competing tend to take orals for much longer periods because they have no other options) you can start messing with your jawline at this point.Winstrol is a way better compound but it's really toxic compared to anavar. Anavar is way more suited for a woman and you gotta understand that steroids for woman is a whole different thing and the level it affects you both good and bad cannot be compared to how it is for a man. There's absolutely no reason to take winstrol for a woman considering the toxicity
Agreed with both of y'all but it also depends on the woman and her genetics. I have friends that use Winny and have no sides and then woman that have terrible sides. It just depends. Case by case.
This is your opinion. You might say you like winni better some might say anavar. Both have there place.Winstrol is a way better compound but it's really toxic compared to anavar. Anavar is way more suited for a woman and you gotta understand that steroids for woman is a whole different thing and the level it affects you both good and bad cannot be compared to how it is for a man. There's absolutely no reason to take winstrol for a woman considering the toxicity
Was it a man who recommended winni to you?That was the plan, but had someone mention/recommend winstrol and wanted to know what the difference between the two are. Have any idea?
This is your opinion. You might say you like winni better some might say anavar. Both have there place.
For a woman, anavar is the way to go Without a doubt!!
The only thing Winny offers specifically for women that think they need it is women competing, and winny brings a hard, dry, grainy and vascular look to the body once you dip into low enough BF ranges. If that's what a woman is after, I'd recommend Nolva + Primo Acetate tabs. 12.5mg of each daily would net similar results with less chance of virilization as would be with winny.Well it also depends on different times meaning one time I don't feel anything the other I do. After reading people with sides , how long it takes to kick in etc I feel like I'm immune to the bad sides and only gets the positive. There are things to think about here like the long term that we don't see. I could be far more in danger long term than a guy who gets gyno. Winstrol is a really toxic compound even for a man. Women in general dont have the genetics to use steroids in the first place so going for one of the most toxic orals is madness in my opinion and that's not meant as an insult it's just biology. Besides as a woman anavar is way more effective than for a man so considering the sides and the results anavar is great. I consider this the same thing as me going for tren and halo and personally I haven't and I don't see the need for it since I get great results with test,eq,primo,winstrol etc etc. Best thing is that the gains are so easy to keep too Less is really more when it comes to steroids but it is of course up to you.
Yes, anavar tends to cause some water retention in most people.That sounds more fair, you'd prefer this to anavar too?
Well, you sort of conflated two different points I made that should have stayed independent of each other.Hey bub, I know I don't have rep points here etc., but I've been in this game for 40 years and have been on .multiple boards plus if this place would let me load my avatar pic you'd see I'm the real deal....ANYHOW... you told her how often var is faked, which yea it is but I've gotten it off and on for several years and I've ever personally got it faked, but then you go on to advocate primo tabs? **** I'd put anything primo at the very top of the list for being top faked!!
I have gotten it fake as have several other of friends and acquaintances through out the years. In fact I had to have gyno removed twice due to my using fake ass primo amp finding out it was test instead.
Yea sure I'd recommend primo too if it was top to be faked!
well said, Happy FridayWell, you sort of conflated two different points I made that should have stayed independent of each other.
1) that anavar, or anything hormonal that is being put in a woman's body, should be tested for verification.
2) that primo is simply a better choice for hardening effects over anavar because it seems to do it better than Var but is generally weaker and based on my wife's experience - less sides and less water retention.
my dislike of Var isn't because it is faked but because other compounds do better what it is supposed to do - cutting & harder look. That said, Primo, Var, Test, Winny or whatever one has in mind to take ought to test it first to simply know with certainty that it is what you hope it to be. A lot more permanent changes are on the line for women that makes this a massive 'must do' in any cycle.