any safe steroids for female?
12-13-2009 11:40 AM
19-nor aka X-tren in low doses will lead to muscle hardening and achieving that leaner look. Is she a fitness competitor? Yeah...getting your hands on some real Winstrol would be the best! 5-10 mg/day
Keep the dosing low and she'll be just fine...
12-14-2009 11:48 AM
yes. women CAN get gynomastia. although it is very rare. 2 women DO NOT need PCT, it is better to ramp up and taper down dosages, as this would help regain her natural hormonal balance again.
I wonder if a female can get gynomastia. I suppose not but at the same time a female would want to run a PCT to control the excess estrogen after a cycle.
Ive used PHs and its darker brothers with great success. Read: no sides. not one hair (or anything else). However, with that said I am a firm believer in low-dose = conservative dosages for women. And prior to any use- I made sure I knew my body, and understood the general chemistry involved.
There are a few females on these boards that have successfully used hormonal products. As far as females and steroids, those female bodybuilder stereotypes are the end result of years of training and correct nutrition on top of hormonals.
from the gray side: women have successfully used:
1-tren/estra based compounds
from the "other" side:
I think it is possible to use PHs safely. However, I agree with the general consensus- and if the girl is a beginner- try something that modulates her test levels first:
LCLT (which in studies have shown to upregulate/proliferate Androgen Receptors, yes women also have androgen receptors)
SHBG lowering agents. DHT inhibitors. (use these two together to modulate an increase in free test/will prevent sides).
DHEA- has been proven in a number of medical studies that it increases women's test levels.
I would avoid AIs, because if your female friend is still menstruating her body will overcompensate, for the hormonal (less estrogen) changes. Which isnt true for a T-booster or PH since her estrogen levels will remain relatively the same.
T-911 contains a suicide inhibitor of aromatase; this is not something ideal for a female.
I would avoid all products that stimulate LH/FSH. as it would increase fetility in women, as well as all the other side-effects that come with an increased production of female hormones.
Tribulus terrestris has been shown to have no effect on testosterone or hormonal levels at all, so is a waste of time, IMO.
Women can also safely use non androgenic compounds- such as IGF, which has been used by many women with success.
12-22-2009 06:49 PM
how bout a low dose of dermacrine? Or say 1 tab of Diesel's DTP.
12-22-2009 11:40 PM
It seems like a low dose of Primo seems to be very popular with women , and men (but at around 600mg/week)on other boards I frequent. It supposedly adds very lean permanent gains with little to no sides, but is probably the most expensive compound to get a hold of.
But I'm not a woman, and I've never used AAS, so I can't tell from personal experience.
12-30-2009 12:58 PM
Isnt winny a derivative of DHT? Isn’t DHT the hormone that causes manly side effects in women? So would winny really be a good choice? Deca seems like a good idea. Also why dry hormones? Dht type substances have an antiestrogen affect. Could someone explain why avoiding AI’s is a must. Would a low does AI be ok as long as you control DHT also? Reducing SHBG seems like a great idea. What about activate extreme for a female? It has a slight AI in it. I like the DHEA idea also. Sorry for so many questions but I’m still learning about womens hormones.
01-27-2010 01:40 AM
bein that i have experimented wit supplements, i would highly recomment HGH n anavar. best ****tail ever. just make sure u get blood work done cuz u def want 2 stay clear of hgh if u have been diagnosed wit any type of cancer or even if cancer strongly runs in ur family.
01-27-2010 02:05 PM
AIs can cause FSH imbalances in women, increasing their periods when you come off. It also can cause spontaneous ovulation. Not ideal. What happens when you use an AI you lower estrogen, and via negative feedback cycle - your body makes more GnRH yeilding more FSH. When your body produces high amounts of FSH- your ovaries get stimulated.
Originally Posted by wastedwhiteboy2
DHEA is great, except a woman REALLY needs to know her body due to the fact that DHEA CAN aromatize and you subsequently would end up with more estrogen, so be careful. IF DHEA is an option go for a non-aromatizable DHEA derivative, as to minimize the impact on estrogen levels. I know I said DHEA before- but this time I would like to include the aforementioned caveat.
Var has been demonstrated to be safe for a woman. However- KNOW your sources. It IS a heavily counterfeited substance- and you may end up with it cut (with another androgen) or completely mislabeled. This is also true for Primo.
Once again be careful with T boosters- something like Mucuna should be taken with care, although it does favorably impact Growth Hormone levels, it also increases the release of GnRH- which would increase your " monthly female activity" in certain women. ZMA is also an effective T booster one may like to consider. Other non-hormonal gainers (Amino Acids) include Threonine and Leucine/BCAAs. Glutamine PWO has been shown to greatly enhance nitrogen retention.
02-06-2010 02:11 AM
Originally Posted by Rommel65
02-06-2010 12:28 PM
Winny can be agreeable with women in proper dosages, but by no means would I consider it a "milder" injectable for women. I've seen winny do some harsh things to females. There are lots of AAS that can successfully be used in females. It all depends on goals/experience, etc. Primo, anavar, winny, low-dose EQ and deca, and low doses of prop can be used with great results and minimal side-effects. Like I said, it all depends on goals and experience.
Originally Posted by Jasen
But keep in mind, you're putting male hormones in female bodies. There is going to be some changes that aren't necessarily welcomed. What do you think happens to a man who starts loading up on estrogen? Same difference.
02-07-2010 12:04 PM
maybe if my girlfriend took roids, she wouldnt flip **** like last week when she found my hormonal stash containing a bottle of usp clomid, which says "not intended for human use" on the label
02-23-2010 10:41 PM
Hmm, so what about Hdrol for a woman at very lose dosage? Say 5mgs a day for 30 days...thoughts? One of the guys on here from CEL mentioned a girl he knew ran it for 30-days (didn't say the dosage or her stats) with great success (again a qualitative descriptio) and NO sides.
Thoughts? Just curious about this discussion as I see very little in the way of information regarding this subject.
If my memory serves me, Hdrol is fairly mild as far as androgenic sides. Again sides are always dependent on the person taking the respective compound.
"DUDE I TOOK 500MGs for 20 WEEKS WOO HOO" - I kid...)
02-24-2010 08:32 AM
i thought women usually run var? not sure about hdrol, but it is pretty mild
great story rommel LOL
02-24-2010 01:49 PM
I think I would lean more towards the var type products. Those that are more like deca than test. I'm not sure what otc are similar to var. I like the test type products cause i'm a dude so I dont keep up with what's out
03-07-2010 01:48 PM
what d you think about andriol
it is as safe as anavar
03-07-2010 04:21 PM
safety yes. but it aromatizes. which makes it unprefereble.
andriol = TNE.
Furazadrol clones could be considered good aas/ph for women. and its legal-"ish"
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