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  1.  12-23-2002  04:32 PM
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    changeing routine while on cycle, need opinions


    Hi, I'm 32 years old, 176lbs, and about 15 to 17% body fat. I've been on a bulking phase for awhile now and gaining about 1.5 lbs a week.
    I plan on starting my first pro-hormone or pro-steroid cycle soon, not sure wich one yet. Nor-Aderm or maybe One+ I haven't decided yet.
    My present routine is:
    Monday: chest/biceps/abs
    Tuesday: legs
    Wednesday: off
    Thursday: shoulders/triceps
    Friday: back/abs

    I thought I would switch to this next routine so every body part would get worked three times every two weeks.

    New routine:
    Monday: back/chest/biceps/abs
    Tuesday: off
    Wednesday: legs/shouders/triceps/abs
    Thursday: off
    Friday: same as monday

    On the following Monday I would rotate and start with Wednesday's routine . I would also do only two excersises per body part and try to keep these workouts to 1 1/2 hours.

    Does this sound like a good idea or should stick with my 1st routine?



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    Well you are on a cycle, but that doesnt make you superman. If I were anyone on a PH or AAS cycle, I would give GVT a try. Its awesome for pure mass. Theres a sticky on it in this section if you're interested. Otherwise, you can probably get away with training each muscle twice a week, minus legs, chest and back. These are big muscle groups and need adequate time to recover.

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    Thanks YellowJacket, I will read up on GVT.

    On the last routine I mentioned it would only be every other week that certain body parts would get worked twice per week. And the volume would be smaller.
    For example on wednesday I would do:
    Squats, leg curls, calve raises for legs
    DB presses, upright rows, bentover lateral raised for shoulders
    Close grip bench press and press downs for ticeps
    and then abs.

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    Thats a long day in the gym, try to get in and out in 60 minutes or less. I say work 2 body parts a day....each body part high intensity, heavy once a week.....but thats me, different things work different for each person, you have to find what works for you.

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    Ok thanks, I will do some more reading on routines and make a decision maybe I will stick with what I am already doing.

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    I train my whole body in two sessions like you have mentioned. My split is a push/pull routine.
    Workout A-Chest, shoulders, tris, quads, calves
    Workout B-Back, traps, hams, bis, abs
    4 sets per bodypart of one exersise. All compound movements. Usually 2 on, 1 off, 1 on, 1 off. But all depending on how I feel. No sets to failure. I've had the most success with this style of training.

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    .
    "I train my whole body in two sessions like you have mentioned. My split is a push/pull routine. "
    How long have you been doing this type of routine and what kind of gains have you gotten from it?
    I have been wanting to go to that type of roitine for a while now but just haven't gotten aroung to change mine up yet.
    I have been doing the first routine I listed for a long time now.

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    in case you are wondering what GVT is

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/luis13b.htm go here

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    Originally posted by dez/null
    in case you are wondering what GVT is

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/luis13b.htm go here
    Or we have a GVT sticky in out exercise/training section.

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    that would work

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    Thanks guys. I did find the sticky here and read throught some of it but not all of it yet.

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    Originally posted by metacat
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    How long have you been doing this type of routine and what kind of gains have you gotten from it?
    I have been wanting to go to that type of roitine for a while now but just haven't gotten aroung to change mine up yet.
    I have been doing the first routine I listed for a long time now.
    I've been using this only about 4 months or so, have gained 30 pounds about(15 of which from androgens, some fat of course as well.) With the routine I posted, you'll have to change up some sets depending on the bodypart, or take an extra day off here and there. I workout based on how I "feel", if I don't feel recovered, I'll take an extra day, it's not really a set schedule.

    EDIT: Actually, I've been using it almost 6 months. I didn't realize how far back the summer was. Time is really flying....

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    If i change my routine to the last one i mentioned the break down (excersises, sets, reps) would probably look something like this.

    Monday:
    Back:
    Deadlifts 10,8, 3x6
    Wide grip chinups 3 sets to failure
    Bentover BB rows 10,8,6

    Chest:
    Incline DB press 10,8,6
    Flat DB press, rotated with decline press 10,8,6

    Bis:
    E-Z bar culrs 3x8
    Preacher curls 3x8
    Abs

    Tuesday: rest

    Wednesday
    Legs:
    Squats 10,8, 2x6
    Leg culrs 3x8

    Shoulders:
    DB shoulder presses 10,8,6
    Upright rows 10,8,6
    Bent over lateral raises 3x8

    Tris:
    Close grip bench 10,8,6
    Press downs rotated with skull cruchers 3x8

    Standing calve raised 12,10,8
    Abs

    Thursday: rest

    Friday: same as Monday

    Sat & Sun. rest, then on the following Monday I would start with Wednesday's routine.

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    Thanks for the thoughts bros. I am thinking of doing GVT when I do my cycle in March for max gains. I want what I want and I know how I like it.

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