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    What exercises do you guys do for shoulders? Just tryin to get a few new ones to add to my current routine

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    1.Lateral raises (with cables or free weights)
    2.Military presses
    3.Dumbell presses
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    front military press
    arnolds
    db press
    front and side lat raise superset
    behind neck press machine
    cuban rotations
    front bar raises
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    i've heard that behind the neck motions are bad for your neck...anyone else hear that?
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    ive heard that too. my gym has a behind nck press machine. its hammer. the grips are positiond to immitate bnp without all the pressure of the bar on your neck.
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    Originally posted by motleybreu
    i've heard that behind the neck motions are bad for your neck...anyone else hear that?
    i dont know about the neck specifically but bnp put your shoulder in an unnatural position. it contributed to a rotator cuff tear for me leading to surgery. so i never, ever do any behind the neck exercise, including bnp lat pull downs. i do mil presses, db presses, arnold presses.

    dont forget the rear delts...
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    cuban rotations
    db shoulder press
    lateral raises
    bent over laterals
    shrugs
    upright rows
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    clean and press
    heavy upright rows (10-6-4 repitition)
    push press
    one set each of DB side/front/rear delt laterals with 20-30 second plate "wheelies" at end of each set.

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    i actually really like any kinda clean for shoulders, but i've been partial to O lifts lately, cuz there really helping me build explosiveness, which helps with powerlifting also. dont know if ur pure bber, or like me a power bb'er, but if u r like me, u will definitely love the O lifts, especially cleans for shoulders, of course most cleans work more than just shoulders though.
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    Damn I hate strength hammer machines

    Arnold , Military , Cleans and Dumbell Presses, compound all the way baby!
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    Originally posted by msclbldrguy
    i dont know about the neck specifically but bnp put your shoulder in an unnatural position. it contributed to a rotator cuff tear for me leading to surgery. so i never, ever do any behind the neck exercise, including bnp lat pull downs. i do mil presses, db presses, arnold presses.

    dont forget the rear delts...
    I injured my rotator cuff exactly like this. Took a long time to heal; but at least did not require surgery. I no longer do behind the neck press, and in fact, don't go real heavy on regular military press. I like some hammer strength machines better than others. If I was going to do behind the neck press, it would only be on a machine like the one destro uses.

    Shoulders do not need a lot of sets, and can be overtrained more easily than any other muscle group. But you have to hit the delts from every angle, so just drop the number of total sets, and warm up thoroughly to prevent rotator cuff injury. A lot of pros, like Jeff Everson have totally detroyed their rotator cuff integrity from years of doing heavy benches and military presses.

    I do:

    lateral raises for middle delt
    bent over laterals for rear delt (overlooked by many as msclbldrguy pointed out.)
    military press for front delt

    I do 3 sets of 10 reps and sometimes 4 sets for rear delts. I do military press last, after I have warmed up thoroughly, as this movement is the hardest on rotators. And if I run out of steam, or feel a bit sore, I skip the press, as the front delts are engaged by a lot of other exercises, like dips and incline press, so they never seem to lag as much as rear delts.
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    Depends for me for awhile I was doing power cleans now that i changed my program for heavy bench I just do laterial raise on the light days I do shoulder press and laterial raises.
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    you guys should add 2-3 sets of cuban rotations, very good exercise for the rotator cuffs to keep your shoulders healthy
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    Originally posted by pinoy
    you guys should add 2-3 sets of cuban rotations, very good exercise for the rotator cuffs to keep your shoulders healthy
    Excuse my ignorance, but what is this excercise? i've never heard of it.
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    Originally posted by TarvMan


    Excuse my ignorance, but what is this excercise? i've never heard of it.
    http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/exerc...nrotations.htm
    cr's are great i also do other cuff work along with them.
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    Originally posted by RaulJimenez
    Damn I hate strength hammer machines

    Arnold , Military , Cleans and Dumbell Presses, compound all the way baby!
    the only thing i hate about them is that people use them as a cruch instead of an aid. like the 160lb guy who loads up 4 plates and raises it 2 in then slams it down for 10 reps. then he has the nerve to get up an breathe hard and look aroung to see who was watching.
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    John : military presses barbell or dumbell hit the rear area too
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    Try and keep away from machines that do shoulder exersices. In fact stay away from all machines unless thier involved in super sets or something. U want to try and train with free weights. Why? Cos their the best and put on mass muscles Yea!
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    Oh forgot, Dumbell press is one of the bests besides the bar press which is the same thing except with a bar.
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    hey john great info man..i usually work my rear delts harder for the same reasons..thanks for everyone's input...shoulers are my least favorite exercise...........
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    Originally posted by John Benz
    I do:

    lateral raises for middle delt
    bent over laterals for rear delt (overlooked by many as msclbldrguy pointed out.)
    military press for front delt
    odd, that is exactly what I do.

    Haven't done behind-the-neck in years either, unless I'm at a gym with Hammer strength (which isn't often).
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    destro19 I just started using that machine and I really like it
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    Behind the neck can cause definite rotator cuff damage if you go too far down, if not you should be fine.
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    on rear delt day i do

    standing lateral extensions
    lying lateral exten
    upright row
    pullups
    two variations of rows (elbows high, and wide grip, usually)
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    Military Presses

    If you're going to use cables for lateral raises try it with the cable behind your instead of in front.
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    Originally posted by sage
    one set each of DB side/front/rear delt laterals with 20-30 second plate "wheelies" at end of each set.

    hey sage, ive been contemplating on doing something like this and maybe splitting up my chest and shoulder day altogether.

    ie, one set of each like the above said. and maybe thinkin of doin (2) sets of each?

    how has this been goin for u? how long have u been doin it?

    just curious.

    thx a lot.
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    Love it man. been doing similar "finishes" to my shoulder days for a good 4 months now. Ive always had a dominate shoulders/traps compared to my chest and especially arms. But ever since adding the single high rep sets for the front/side/rear delts and the wheelies or holds right afterwords, ive gotten more definition in the delts, while keeping and gaining mass. Love it bra. Sage
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    sweetish, i think i might give it a whirl.

    thx
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    Anyone do the Roman Press?

    Thats kinda like upright rowing, but with wider grip, and as you reach the end of that movement, reverse elbows to bring the bar to chin-level with elbows under the wrist, then finish the movement with a bar-press to full overhead arm extension. Reverse and slowly bring back down.

    Sure gets my heart pumping, which is kinda fun for a SHOULDER movement!
  

  
 

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