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    Will you gain much size of Strength Training/Powerlifting ?


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    Why not ask him?
    I don't know where he lives
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    My deadlift has gone from 185lbs to 285lbs in meager 4-5 months...You tell me ! And I'm 140~ lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    My deadlift has gone from 185lbs to 285lbs in meager 4-5 months...You tell me ! And I'm 140~ lol
    I mean size brah, if you would gain much lbm from strength training/powerlifting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stroke UR Ego View Post
    I mean size brah, if you would gain much lbm from strength training/powerlifting
    lol thighs have grown 1.5" and arms went from 14 to 15" and I don't do curls...Lats grew and my obliques and core feel stronger, tighter and denser. Don't know if that helps much for you to decide if it works or not.
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    Anecdotally, if you look at competitive powerlifters, especially those competing in natural and/or raw events you will see some very impressive physiques, both with regards to muscle size/development and conditioning at the sub 220-242 lbs weight classes.

    Is training solely for strength the most efficient way to gain muscle? No, it comes down to specificity. But then, neither is your typical 5 day a week chest, back, arms, BS split.

    A [well programmed] mix of strength and hypertrophy training is likely the most efficient way to gain muscle mass. I had really good results when the bodybuilding team I coached was using a modified form of eastern block periodization.

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    Squat/Dead/Bench consistently have added more mass in the past 2 years than the previous 5 where I spun my wheels. My philosophy is once the strength comes...the mass isn't far to follow. Just my 2 cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiR RED View Post
    Anecdotally, if you look at competitive powerlifters, especially those competing in natural and/or raw events you will see some very impressive physiques, both with regards to muscle size/development and conditioning at the sub 220-242 lbs weight classes.

    Is training solely for strength the most efficient way to gain muscle? No, it comes down to specificity. But then, neither is your typical 5 day a week chest, back, arms, BS split.

    A [well programmed] mix of strength and hypertrophy training is likely the most efficient way to gain muscle mass. I had really good results when the bodybuilding team I coached was using a modified form of eastern block periodization.

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    I agree with this post...this is the guy that trains me, he just won nationals here in Kileen Texas...



    He helps me out with form and partial movements to help the full ROM variations...he aint small at all haha and he has trained strength for his 5 years of experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiR RED
    Anecdotally, if you look at competitive powerlifters, especially those competing in natural and/or raw events you will see some very impressive physiques, both with regards to muscle size/development and conditioning at the sub 220-242 lbs weight classes.

    Is training solely for strength the most efficient way to gain muscle? No, it comes down to specificity. But then, neither is your typical 5 day a week chest, back, arms, BS split.

    A [well programmed] mix of strength and hypertrophy training is likely the most efficient way to gain muscle mass. I had really good results when the bodybuilding team I coached was using a modified form of eastern block periodization.

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    I agree. Those 5 days splits are not the most effective for average lifters. Especially ones that are not lifting hard or eating to fuel their gains.
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    There are so many misconceptions about PL'ing out there, but the primary one is the asinine belief that you can't add significant mass to your frame following many of their principles. There is still hypertrophy work in many of the templates out their in addition to the max effort work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    There are so many misconceptions about PL'ing out there, but the primary one is the asinine belief that you can't add significant mass to your frame following many of their principles. There is still hypertrophy work in many of the templates out their in addition to the max effort work.
    This.

    If you want the mass gains, you can definitely program it in along with your other strength work. There are certain lifters who through the years have fallen into a certain weight class and want to stay there. These will generally employ less hypertrophy work in order to stay within the right weight class.

    However, if you want to grow muscle, you'll add in volume/TUT sessions and eat more, and the muscle will come.
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    I've gained more quality , lean mass from heavy compound movements than the classic 5 day split.
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    I've been doing Madcows 5x5 for the last 8 weeks and I've definitely noticed some improvements in my physique. In the past I've done mainly bodybuilding style workouts with higher rep ranges (10-15) with good results, but I feel like my chest is responding especially well to this training. Also, I've been keeping track of my weight and I'm up about 4 lbs since I started the program - so strength training can definitely make you grow!
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    5/3/1 with high rep assistance work (periodization bible assistance) = solid gains in strength and size

    Or follow one of the powerbuilding routines like DC, for strength and size
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutterpump View Post
    5/3/1 with high rep assistance work (periodization bible assistance) = solid gains in strength and size

    Or follow one of the powerbuilding routines like DC, for strength and size
    DC worked great for me. If anyone hasn't tried it, consider it
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    I believe you will, but I think it depends at least in part on your genetics. It seems like some people can get stronger without getting much bigger, but other people have to add lots of muscle to get stronger. Personally I'm one of the second type, my bench for instance is around 270, I was at about 150 4 years ago, during that time my "chest" grew from 38" to 44". I put "chest" in quotes because that measurement also includes lats and back. I think someone said that gaining 5 lb of muscle equals a 15% strength increase, sounds about right to me, & I suppose that if you can increase your strength by 15% you're going to add 5 lb of muscle.
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    as a general rule of thumb

    1-6 reps strength
    6-12 hypertrophy
    over 12 endurance

    as you can see most bodybuilders train in the 6-12 rep range. I think its beneficial to train in all of these categories and while I mostly train in the 6-12 rep range, Ill go down to the 3-6 rep range at times because it does help strength. I never go below 3, used to, not anymore.

    If you train in the six -twelve rep range change it up for a month or even every other workout for a while, as long as your joints can handle it, to 3-6 reps and I guarantee you'll be stronger when you go back to the 6-12 rep range
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smeton
    as a general rule of thumb

    1-6 reps strength
    6-12 hypertrophy
    over 12 endurance

    as you can see most bodybuilders train in the 6-12 rep range. I think its beneficial to train in all of these categories and while I mostly train in the 6-12 rep range, Ill go down to the 3-6 rep range at times because it does help strength. I never go below 3, used to, not anymore.

    If you train in the six -twelve rep range change it up for a month or even every other workout for a while, as long as your joints can handle it, to 3-6 reps and I guarantee you'll be stronger when you go back to the 6-12 rep range
    Excellent advice bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smeton View Post
    as a general rule of thumb

    1-6 reps strength
    6-12 hypertrophy
    over 12 endurance

    as you can see most bodybuilders train in the 6-12 rep range. I think its beneficial to train in all of these categories and while I mostly train in the 6-12 rep range, Ill go down to the 3-6 rep range at times because it does help strength. I never go below 3, used to, not anymore.

    If you train in the six -twelve rep range change it up for a month or even every other workout for a while, as long as your joints can handle it, to 3-6 reps and I guarantee you'll be stronger when you go back to the 6-12 rep range
    i used to be a huge believer in following rep ranges for very specific training. last year i decided to train for powerlifting and now i train over a broader range of reps then at any other time. i go between 3-20 each and every workout. with a few workouts that will go from 1 to 50. what does that mean?
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    Oops, forgot one of the biggest names worth bringing up in such a topic, maybe the first name everyone should remember when discussing this topic: Stan "the Rhino" Efferding.

    865 RAW squat (ok, plus knee wraps, so what?): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a670r...layer_embedded
    835 deadlift: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNmOG...layer_embedded
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torobestia View Post
    Oops, forgot one of the biggest names worth bringing up in such a topic, maybe the first name everyone should remember when discussing this topic: Stan "the Rhino" Efferding.

    865 RAW squat (ok, plus knee wraps, so what?): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a670r...layer_embedded
    835 deadlift: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNmOG...layer_embedded
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    If we're talking strong IFBB Pros (or just strong dudes in general) look at Johnnie Jackson.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st8FEFHlInk

    Saw him on stage and his back and trap development is just ridiculous - very likely it has something to do with his powerlifting history.
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    Ive gained more muscle powerlifting then I ever did bbing. In my persuit to a bigger total ive added 35lbs to my frame in 2 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    Ive gained more muscle powerlifting then I ever did bbing. In my persuit to a bigger total ive added 35lbs to my frame in 2 years.
    That's awesome. Any specific program?
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    Quote Originally Posted by newbreed View Post
    That's awesome. Any specific program?
    Also curious about your programming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doss View Post
    Also curious about your programming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newbreed View Post
    That's awesome. Any specific program?
    As rodja stated, westside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    As rodja stated, westside.
    Very cool. Thank you.
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