Bulking and cardio?

[BigD89]

What are your thoughts on running while trying to bulk. Distance you recommend or even if I need to avoid it. I'm trying to bulk but rele don't want to gain more fat than muscle. Any advice?

[jimbuick]

What are your thoughts on running while trying to bulk. Distance you recommend or even if I need to avoid it. I'm trying to bulk but rele don't want to gain more fat than muscle. Any advice?

Sprints are good, just make sure you eat enough to replace the extra calorie expenditure.

[BigD89]

Sprints are good, just make sure you eat enough to replace the extra calorie expenditure.

Hmm then the would juss make running pointless lol I guess I'll just refrain from running untill I start to cut. Thanks for the post!

[jimbuick]

Hmm then the would juss make running pointless lol I guess I'll just refrain from running untill I start to cut. Thanks for the post!

Not necessarily. Due to the nature of the exercise it may have potential recompense effects as long as that calorie expenditure is accounted for in your calorie intake which can lead to leaner gains throughout the bulking cycle. Mr.Cooper went into it.in more detail in the "fat burners on a bulk" thread. I would link but its a pain on the phone app but there was a lot of good that came from that thread if you want to check it out.

[ZiR RED]

Hmm then the would juss make running pointless lol I guess I'll just refrain from running untill I start to cut. Thanks for the post!

Are you training for an endurance event or for physique purposes [rhetorical]?

Sprinting will do a number of things for you, besides improving cardiovascular conditioning burning a few extra calories.
1. Will increase anaerobic enzymes. Hence, you'll be better able to utilize CHO for high intensity work.
2. Increase glycogen synthase activity and density. Hence, more of the CHO you consume will be stored as glycogen.
3. Increase beta-oxidation enzymes. Hence, you will be more efficient at using fat for fuel.
4. Train the type II fibers of the lower body, as well as place more stress upon the global core (abs, obliques, etc.).

1-3 will improve nutrient partitioning. In other words, more of what you eat will go towards muscle vs. fat. All this from 2-3 sessions of 6-10 sprints per session.

Br

[Medical420]

I was always told to do a light cardio before training(5-10min). Mainly just to get the blood pumping and warm up the muscles. Don't know if is necessary, just habit.

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[ZiR RED]

I was always told to do a light cardio before training(5-10min). Mainly just to get the blood pumping and warm up the muscles. Don't know if is necessary, just habit.

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Yes, increase muscle temp will improve performance and reduce injury risk. Even better, is to make that cardio warmup a mobility warm. Activate the right muscles in the right patterns. Check out some of the mobilty warmups by DeFranco.

[Medical420]

Yes, increase muscle temp will improve performance and reduce injury risk. Even better, is to make that cardio warmup a mobility warm. Activate the right muscles in the right patterns. Check out some of the mobilty warmups by DeFranco.

Improved muscle temp = improved muscle tearing ????


Thanks. with the arthritis, I can see how some of his positions are beneficial. I do similar stretches, I am going to try that glute hip rotator stretch

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[ZiR RED]

Improved muscle temp = improved muscle tearing ????


Thanks. with the arthritis, I can see how some of his positions are beneficial. I do similar stretches, I am going to try that glute hip rotator stretch

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No, increased muscle temperature will improve performance and reduce risk of tears.
Performance mechanisms: Q10 effect, greater liquidity in the sarcoplasm, etc.

[Medical420]

No, increased muscle temperature will improve performance and reduce risk of tears.
Performance mechanisms: Q10 effect, greater liquidity in the sarcoplasm, etc.

My bad, I was referring to "tearing" as in the process of building muscles. Would cardio, increased blood flow and temperature be more beneficial for Bulking than just stretching, light warmup and straight into a workout? I would think yes. But i don't know.

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[ZiR RED]

My bad, I was referring to "tearing" as in the process of building muscles. Would cardio, increased blood flow and temperature be more beneficial for Bulking than just stretching, light warmup and straight into a workout? I would think yes. But i don't know.

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Gotcha. Mobility would be most effective. You will stretch and activate the right muscles, be able to move more weight in a more efficient manner, and get a greater overload. Such is my train of thought on the matter.

[Jiigzz]

My bad, I was referring to "tearing" as in the process of building muscles. Would cardio, increased blood flow and temperature be more beneficial for Bulking than just stretching, light warmup and straight into a workout? I would think yes. But i don't know.

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The only difference I see between the two is the strectching aspect, and this can differ dependant on the type of stretching as some stretching methods like static stretching can actually decrease power output. Its hard to assume what you mean by light warm up, do you also mean cardio?

I think cardio before a weights session is one way to go, but only if its treadmill running which will activate more muscle groups than say stationary bike, especially on upper body days. Personally I find that a 10 minute run helps get the blood pumping and then followed by warm up sets on the exercises i am performing to be most beneficial. But thats just one perspective

[BigD89]

Are you training for an endurance event or for physique purposes [rhetorical]?

Sprinting will do a number of things for you, besides improving cardiovascular conditioning burning a few extra calories.
1. Will increase anaerobic enzymes. Hence, you'll be better able to utilize CHO for high intensity work.
2. Increase glycogen synthase activity and density. Hence, more of the CHO you consume will be stored as glycogen.
3. Increase beta-oxidation enzymes. Hence, you will be more efficient at using fat for fuel.
4. Train the type II fibers of the lower body, as well as place more stress upon the global core (abs, obliques, etc.).

1-3 will improve nutrient partitioning. In other words, more of what you eat will go towards muscle vs. fat. All this from 2-3 sessions of 6-10 sprints per session.

Br

I am training for physique purposes. I'm bulking for 4 months and would like to gain more muscle than fat but I do realize fat is juss part of it when bulking, but would like to keep it to a minimum. I weigh 175 and goal weight by the end of it is around 200. Not too worried about the weight part juss wanna get big. Been eating 4000 cal give or take a Lil with 250 carbs and around 60 to 90 grams a fat a day with roughly 250- 280 grams of protein a day. Never done sprints so what would u recommend? Maybe run all out for a tenth of mile then walk fora tenth and repeat till I hit a mile?

[ZiR RED]

I am training for physique purposes. I'm bulking for 4 months and would like to gain more muscle than fat but I do realize fat is juss part of it when bulking, but would like to keep it to a minimum. I weigh 175 and goal weight by the end of it is around 200. Not too worried about the weight part juss wanna get big. Been eating 4000 cal give or take a Lil with 250 carbs and around 60 to 90 grams a fat a day with roughly 250- 280 grams of protein a day. Never done sprints so what would u recommend? Maybe run all out for a tenth of mile then walk fora tenth and repeat till I hit a mile?

Start out with a good track specific warm up.
Do 8 x 50 yards, with a 50 yard walk back for recovery twice a week for 1-2 weeks.
Then, increase the distance by 10-15 yards until you are doing 8 x 110 yards (100m) twice a week.
Once you are able to do all these with a high intensity, we can start working in shuttle runs, longer distance, or more volume.

I think your diet may need some revamping if your goal is to gain muscle. Your fat intake is low, your CHO intake can probably be increased, and your protein intake is excessive. All that extra protein is 1. costing your calories that could be used for biosynthesizing muscle, and 2. is either being converted to fatty acids or glucose and acting as a fuel. If you are 175 lbs then you really don't need more than 180-200 grams.

Br

[BigD89]

I don't rele have acces to a track can u convert that to the use of a treadmill? And cho? Thanks a lot for the info I figured my fat intake was too low but I was juss worried about gaining to much fat, mainly because all other times I bulked I ate a lot and got discourage when my belly came and quit

[BigD89]

O and forgot to mention that I have been bulking for 4 weeks with the diet I described and already gained 10 pounds and lots of strength.

[BigD89]

O and forgot to mention that I have been bulking for 4 weeks with the diet I described and already gained 10 pounds and lots of strength.

A lot of it prolly due to daa and dermacrine but still lol juss thought I would mention that and been on them for two and a half weeks. Deffinatley will start to take in more fat n Lil less protein tho

[jimbuick]

A lot of it prolly due to daa and dermacrine but still lol juss thought I would mention that and been on them for two and a half weeks. Deffinatley will start to take in more fat n Lil less protein tho

10lbs in 4 weeks. That's not muscle bro more than half of that will be fat gain, you may want to consider reevaluating your diet bro.

[BigD89]

10lbs in 4 weeks. That's not muscle bro more than half of that will be fat gain, you may want to consider reevaluating your diet bro.

What would you change? If I'm not getting enough fat or eating enough then wouldn't eating less be counter productive? Gotta think tho. Bout 2 pounds changes throughout the day. Plus going from lifting on and off not so determined with a crapy diet to full on strict 4 days a week and double the calories and everything then u can imagine how my body responded to tht. I'll try n post some before and current pics here in a bit to compare

[jimbuick]

What would you change? If I'm not getting enough fat or eating enough then wouldn't eating less be counter productive? Gotta think tho. Bout 2 pounds changes throughout the day. Plus going from lifting on and off not so determined with a crapy diet to full on strict 4 days a week and double the calories and everything then u can imagine how my body responded to tht. I'll try n post some before and current pics here in a bit to compare

There's only so much muscle you can build in 4 weeks brother and 10lbs is way more than that. I'm willing to be you gained 6+ pounds of straight fat with 3-4lbs of muscle. You can keep it where it is.but.it.sounds like you're eating WAY more than you need to gain.